Butz
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Sure I'm not saying the rain effects are bad, I'm saying it covers up most of the screen so you can barely even see the environment.
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Sure I'm not saying the rain effects are bad, I'm saying it covers up most of the screen so you can barely even see the environment.
Hobbygaming
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It looks good but it also looks more "gamey"
LostDonkey
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Still peddling DriveClub lol
Nothing touches FH4.
Nothing touches FH4.
transformer
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Gifs and screenshots aside, which look awesome for driveclub, am I the only one completely underwhelmed by the graphics when playing the game? Perhaps my expectations were too high after seeing all the stuff in this thread prior to playing. But I thought it was good, not great, when playing it. Definitely some good highlights, but some very glaring lowlights too. Primarily poor textures and image quality. Pretty much all other games mentioned in this thread look better IMO.
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It's the opposite for me. I played a ton of FH3 but I didn't get into FH4 I only played it for around 2 hours before dropping it. I thought FH3 looked amazing but when I got Driveclub in 2017 it looked like the next level.
The engine in Driveclub is insane
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phil_t98
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Funny how this is a graphics thread and when people are comparing the highest res a game can go people are complaining about it.
FukuDaruma
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There is less difference from XB1 to PS4 than to a PC able to run FM7 or FH4 at 4K60 Ultra.
But it's not a problem. He asked why and that's the answer, because he said " this is a game that runs at 60FPS on the fucking base Xbox One which is already weaker than the PS4."
So yeah... but then it doesn't look like that video he posted. Nobody posts Forza XB1 base videos because they look like shit.
To me, this sums it up: "Forzas are better in some techincal aspects on better hardware, but are not better at anything without better hardware"
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FukuDaruma
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Even if it doesn't look this insanely good at 4K, this looks totally realistic:
This looks amazing, but it doesn't look as realistic. It looks more videogame:
Butz
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Because one is 60fps on weaker hardware and the other is open world at weaker hardware, you're tech illiterate.
And the differences between base X1 and PC are marginal, you get higher resolution and therefor less aliasing, it's otherwise a straight up port with minor changes.
Butz
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The static foliage and the tree pop-in doesn't make it look totally realistic (the overall foliage quality in FH4 is way better compared to GTS anyway) and that one GTS gif is from a replay which is at 30fps with higher quality everything.
The thing is, Forza looks better exactly because it looks like a video game, the goal should be to make things look better than real life, not imitating real life.
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it does
clean IQ and motion blur
accurate lighting in every condition and ToD
good track side details while being open world
Hobbygaming
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FH4 looks sharper sure but Driveclub has better lighting/car shading, better weather effects and looks more natural
Melfice7
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Not only that's not true, the gif is also gameplay while using looking back camera
The amount of misinformation and cherrypicking on this thread is absolutely insane
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Butz
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Just no. Also, the lighting is outdated.
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Butz
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Yes it is, replay mode is 30fps.
Also wish people would stop using tiny 300p gifs in a thread where you're supposed to discuss graphics.
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Melfice7
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Replay is 30 fps on base ps4 with added BLUR , nothing else changes, , on ps4 pro replays can be 60 fps, and gameplay can also have the added blur as well
Nevertheless that gif is GAMEPLAY, not a replay
Just no.
Forza fanboy level on this thread is over 9000!
Horizon 4 is an incredible racing and driving game with fantastic graphics. What’s not to like?
The foliage is far more consistent in Horizon. GTS seems to vary wildly from track to track.
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phil_t98
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the VW badge there looks way odd, doesn't fit the lighting of the rest of the sceneYes it is, replay mode is 30fps.
Also wish people would stop using tiny 300p gifs in a thread where you're supposed to discuss graphics.
Now whos cherry picking xD
90% of trees in both GTS and FM7 are just 2D cardboards.
Both games can look very good but when it comes to foliage, they are pretty terrible and way below Horizon 4 , Driveclub or PC2.
Butz
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Just no.
Forza fanboy level on this thread is over 9000!
Dude that's some 2012 level stuff. Imagine thinking this is impressive looking, or "the best". Just look at that super low res ground texture in the distance.
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Butz
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What??? I done heard it all now
I'll say it again, stop posting small gifs for ants in a GRAPHICS thread.
And it's telling that the only thing that ever gets posted from DC is rain stuff, because since its been pointed out fairly often now, the game looks ugly during a dry, sunny day.
FukuDaruma
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All being posted here is PC Ultra and some XB1X, both vastly superior hardware to PS4 or Pro, but keep on with your "literate" pretentious talking about "weaker hardware".
FM7 in XB1S looks this "great":
In FH4 the difference is so "marginal" that even on the 6 Tflops XB1 X you have to choose between 4K30 or 1080p60, no middle ground.
You mean this foliage pop-in on a pretty empty flat looking environment that looks almost like an upscaled 360 game?
FH4 foliage looks usually better than this, but it says a lot how you complained about GTS "pop-in" but didn't say shit about this...
It's not, but you already proved how little you know about it.
Oh, so you acknowledge now that Driveclub and GTS look more realistic, it's just that for you Forzas look "better than real life".
Ok then.Shiny clean saturated "better than real life" best graphics in a game ever:
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FukuDaruma
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"Better than real life". PC Ultra 4K 8xMSAA
Those trees and ground textures:
FH4 doesn't look always great, even on a top PC at max settings.
AGAIN: not shitting on Forza. Cherrypicking with an agenda is EASY.
Those trees and ground textures:
FH4 doesn't look always great, even on a top PC at max settings.
AGAIN: not shitting on Forza. Cherrypicking with an agenda is EASY.
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Butz
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2018 PC Ultra 4K 8xMSAA:
2014:
4 years and several Tflops later...
And again the FH4 gif looks the best, you're again also forgetting that these games are made for base Xbox primarily and then get some small upgrades for PC.
Scotland in Forza:
Scotland in Driveclub:
But let me guess, posting a picture of the racetrack (literally the only thing you see when playing a track racer) is cherrypicking?
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FukuDaruma
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It says a lot you have to cherrypick some zoomed shots of 2014 Driveclub against a "small upgraded" PC ultra photomode pic with DOF of 2018 FH4...
Here are some REAL gameplay videos.
For all the bruteforced higher res, LOD, textures, etc. that FH4 has on the 4.2 Tflop higher XB1 X:
The real 2014 Driveclub gameplay still wipes the floor with it thanks to its more realistic lighting, reflections, ambient effects, ...
2014 1.8Tflops Driveclub looks realistic with shortcomings, 2018 6 Tflops FH4 looks upscaled "videogamey".
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FukuDaruma
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Enough with DC, GTS and Forza...
Assetto Corsa - San Francisco - 4K60
Night to Day - Several cars
Mods + Custom PPF + Real Head Motion + Reshade
Assetto Corsa - San Francisco - 4K60
Night to Day - Several cars
Mods + Custom PPF + Real Head Motion + Reshade
It says a lot you have to cherrypick some zoomed shots of 2014 Driveclub against a "small upgraded" PC ultra photomode pic with DOF of 2018 FH4...
Here are some REAL gameplay videos.
For all the bruteforced higher res, LOD, textures, etc. that FH4 has on the 4.2 Tflop higher XB1 X:
The real 2014 Driveclub gameplay still wipes the floor with it due to its more realistic lighting, reflections, ambient effects, ...
2014 1.8Tflops Driveclub looks realistic with shortcomings, 2018 6 Tflops FH4 looks upscaled "videogamey".
Is it ever not raining in the world of Driveclub?
FukuDaruma
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Is it ever not raining in the world of Driveclub?
It keeps raining on Forza's parade.
Hobbygaming
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It keeps raining on Forza's parade.
But rain apparently makes everything look better. So...thanks?
Sunset provides more contrast with deeper shadows than mid-day. Rain does the same thing. Their rendering definitely shines in these situations. But so does Forza. It's easier to get an eye popping picture with a high contrast situation. It's the same when taking photos in real life. Bright sun everywhere can make a photo appear flat. Mid day sunny rendering in DC eliminates all contrast and just falls completely flat, though. It's a weakness of their game (and it's why you never see these shared by the Driveclub fanboys).
But in real life, this is when cars really sparkle and actually look their best. Definitely not the case in DC. Forza Horizon 4 does a monstrously better job during the day than Driveclub.
Hobbygaming
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This applies to all games every game looks better with overcast, sunset, etc. But Driveclub looks more realistic consistently over Forza
Turk1993
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Lol bruh even in that zoomed shot Forza still looks superior,and you didn't even turn off CA. Driveclub even has less detail than that zoomed shot in gameplay with no zoom. have a look, you see why they use heavy motion blur (wich i like btw)."Better than real life". PC Ultra 4K 8xMSAA
Those trees and ground textures:
FH4 doesn't look always great, even on a top PC at max settings.
AGAIN: not shitting on Forza. Cherrypicking with an agenda is EASY.
All gameplay my shots no photomode, no zooming, no gif, no low compressed video
Forza Horizon 4 on pc never look this bad if you put everything on ultra, even with same tod Forza has much much more details and most lighting conditions look better. And yes Driveclubs rain look better whe said it 100x times, but only in rain and in motion. The moment the rain dissapears and you stop you see its true face.
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