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[Chittagong]

Seeing some of the hires PC screens of Flatout and playing the Xbox version on a 42" plasma for hours today, I realized that hires is a MUST for next generation games consoles, I can't take the blurry current gen visuals for long. So, I started to think what would be the optimal connection method with my plasma for a high res games console. That led me to think of overall connections. Feel free to complete:

Video out: S-Video, Component, RGB, composite, ?
Sound out: RCA L+R, Optical
Broadband: Ethernet
Wireless: WLAN receiver / transmitter (+ maybe Bluetooth / custom for controls)
Accessories: USB
Memory: Memory Stick / MMC / SD Card

 

[Midas]

They ought to be equipped with HDMI.

 

[Che]

You forgot DVI

 

[thorns]

Well component etc. will most likely be an accessory. I would rather have the console a bit more powerful than have fancy outs like DVI or optical out that I wouldn't use. If you can afford an expensive tv you can surely afford some 10$ adapter.. Ethernet out must be built in, wireless I'm not sure if we will see it in next gen.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I hope they have RFU, otherwise I will have to buy a new tv

 

[Joe]

hdmi is better than dvi isnt it? dvi is just video while hdmi is video and audio.

 

[Slo]

I hope they have RFU, otherwise I will have to buy a new tv

If your TV doesn't even have composite, you should really be getting a new TV anyway.

 

[Chittagong]

Any idea how RGB and Component signals work - how do they handle different resolutions? Is there a maximum resolution for them?

 

[Shompola]

"Sound out: RCA L+R, Optical"

Remove Optical shit and just use an additional RCA for digital out.

 

[gofreak]

hdmi is better than dvi isnt it? dvi is just video while hdmi is video and audio.

Yes, but purely in terms of video, DVI = HDMI.

I think Nintendo have already said that Revolution will have DVI-out.

 

[NohWun]

Any idea how RGB and Component signals work - how do they handle different resolutions? Is there a maximum resolution for them?

They work identically, except for the color representation. Both are three analog color signals plus synchronization information (in component, the sync is added to the "Y" signal, whereas for RGB, it's on separate wires; doesn't make any difference, really).

Since the signals are analog, the maximum resolution is a fuzzy issue. As the resolution gets higher and higher, the signal quality can degrade, depending upon all the components from one machine's output to the displayed pixels.

Higher resolutions just mean that the signal is changing faster. You can easily go to 1080p and beyond, depending upon your monitor's capabilities.

 

[PG2G]

Use additional RCA for digital out? Wouldn't that require 6 or so cables? No thanks... Not to mention, most recievers have only one set of ports for that, and those are normally used for DVD-Audio or SACD.

 

[Chittagong]

They work identically, except for the color representation. Both are three analog color signals plus synchronization information (in component, the sync is added to the "Y" signal, whereas for RGB, it's on separate wires; doesn't make any difference, really).

Since the signals are analog, the maximum resolution is a fuzzy issue. As the resolution gets higher and higher, the signal quality can degrade, depending upon all the components from one machine's output to the displayed pixels.

Higher resolutions just mean that the signal is changing faster. You can easily go to 1080p and beyond, depending upon your monitor's capabilities.

Ah I see, so they are indeed analog. So they don't actually tell specific pixels the information. Is there a digital connection that can be used with current high end TV sets, then?

 

[mrklaw]

They'll just have an AV port, and ship with composite video cables, and charge you for anything else.

Given that, I don't see any reason not to have DVI etc, as they can just charge you more for the connector.

Component etc will be one of the standard accessories as you can already get them for this gen.

playing the Xbox version on a 42" plasma for hours today

Unless its a really expensive HD plasma, it'll most likely only have a 854x480 res anyway, so anything more than 480p will be wasted on it.

Hires LCD likely 720p will be enough. I don't see the point in 1080i unless there is no loss of framerate from the console, as likely or not 99% of owners during its lifetime will be downsampling to their display anyway.

 

[Chittagong]

They'll just have an AV port, and ship with composite video cables, and charge you for anything else.

Given that, I don't see any reason not to have DVI etc, as they can just charge you more for the connector.

Component etc will be one of the standard accessories as you can already get them for this gen.

Unless its a really expensive HD plasma, it'll most likely only have a 854x480 res anyway, so anything more than 480p will be wasted on it.

Hires LCD likely 720p will be enough. I don't see the point in 1080i unless there is no loss of framerate from the console, as likely or not 99% of owners during its lifetime will be downsampling to their display anyway.

This is the plasma I have:

http://www.intoav.com/plasmascreens/42hitachi.htm

says it has 1028 x 1028 and is true XGA resolution. Here's hoping that next gen consoles use some of that...

 

[soundwave05]

I think all three consoles will have DVI output. This allows for high quality output to HDTV sources (plasma, LCD, etc.) and also connection to a computer monitor -- Nintendo has said Revolution will hook be able to to hook up to a computer monitor; Microsoft has said Xenon will be able to hook up to your PC. So you kill two birds with one stone.

I think PS3/Xenon could come with standard with dual composite/component cables right out of the box, meaning you get the regular yellow/red/white connectors along with the red/blue/green for component in one cable.

 

[Chittagong]

Yep, just took a look under my plasma, DVI there. I think I'll try my PowerBook DVI Out to see the picture quality. Lucky thing I have more than a year to figure out what to do with multiple DVI connections and just one port.

 

[Kleegamefan]

HDMI for sure