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Nexus 4 |OT| Quality for everyone
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Great?
The Faceless Master
Member
why not just get a Droid DNA? surely the updates will be just as timely.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Dat HTC battery life. No thanks.
FindMyFarms
Member
I know this has been touched on before, but I need a little help with the $30/month T-Mo plan. So in order to get the plan, do I HAVE to buy a prepaid phone? Because on the website it says I have to pick a phone before picking a plan. I can buy a sim card and activation kit separately >>here<< But If I do that, how do I load the plan onto it without having to buy a prepaid phone? I don't see a link on the site where I can just buy the plan.
no, you can just buy the SIM card
after you receive the SIM card kit in the mail, have your phone ready and you can activate online. you'll choose your plan during the online registration process.
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/ActivateCodes.aspx
Here is a video comparing the Lumia 920, Nexus 4 and Xperia T.
http://youtu.be/QTNuHf3ROJA
IMO the Nexus is a little worse than both in certain areas, but overall it's pretty decent.
Randy Lanzarote
Member
So, micro sim cutters off ebay.... Anybody bought them and found them ok/safe to use?
Time to start prepping for my new Nexus
Time to start prepping for my new Nexus
I think 4.2 is supposed to make up for the other deficits.
criesofthepast
Member
Why not just cut it yourself? I've done it and its incredibly simple. Takes a minute. There are templates online even which make fucking up almost impossible.So, micro sim cutters off ebay.... Anybody bought them and found them ok/safe to use?
Time to start prepping for my new Nexus
If you go to a T-mo store and purchase a plan there, they might give you the card for free. Pretty sure the guy at my local store gave me my last SIM for free.
But maybe that's because I was bringing in my G2x, which comes with a free SIM anyway (though, I'm not sure why he gave me a new SIM instead of just using my the one that came with the phone...)
FindMyFarms
Member
If i decide to switch phones though, do I have to re-register a new phone? Or can I just plug and play the sim into a new phone?
thanks btw
So, micro sim cutters off ebay.... Anybody bought them and found them ok/safe to use?
Time to start prepping for my new Nexus
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Micro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit
Drop 99 cents and just get a new card.
This is why I'll never go with a non-Nexus phone again after having the Galaxy Nexus. Not having to deal with the crap and bloat from carriers is awesome, but the best aspect is that you are first in line for updates. My GNexus is actually an even better phone from the day I bought it because it has been updated to be smoother and more functional.
I'll be giggling with delight when my Nexus 4 gets Android 5.0 next year.
criesofthepast
Member
Wish they were that cheap here. In Canada carriers sell them for $10. Meh. I just cut it myself.
GoldenEye 007
Member
I went into a T-Mobile store and they said they could just activate the SIM in store or I could call to get it activated.
Not sure how accurate that will turn out to be. Otherwise I'll just pick up a microSIM from the store - they also said it would be free.
Not sure how accurate that will turn out to be. Otherwise I'll just pick up a microSIM from the store - they also said it would be free.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Activate...? Sorry if I'm being ignorant here, but I've just never heard of "activating" a GSM phone. Over here you just pop your SIM in (which has to be activated on the network, of course), and you're good to go.
I think he's talking about new accounts.
You guys have better T-Mobile stores than here in Los Angeles. When I switched no retail store would give me the $30 plan, They all said it was a Walmart exclusive or web exclusive. I finally got it at the 5th store i visited in Inglewood along with handset protection.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Sorry, meant activate the SIM, or at least update it with the current account information.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Ok, that makes more sense!
But this will have the best software in the long run, and the best version of Android. Which is all that matters to some.
SSGMUN10000
Connoisseur Of Tedium
Just placed my order for the micro sim. Plan to put my Gnex up for sale soon. Have a backup phone to use in the meantime. Also moving my pics, vids and music to the cloud. I have unlimited Tmo so no worries for me.
Unknown Soldier
Member
With the extremely uncertain future for Windows Phone and Nokia, if you're just looking for a nice phone and don't want to make any gambles, I would go with the N4.
That's my thinking. I can enjoy the Android OS and see how the Win 8 situation plays out. Great thing with the Nexus 4 pricing is I can do as I please. I can enjoy the phone for 1-2 years and then maybe even stay with Android through another phone.
The Faceless Master
Member
Samsung ATIV S!
New review by Golem.de (German website):http://www.golem.de/news/nexus-4-im-test-schickes-smartphone-schwacher-akku-1211-95613.html
They praise the overall performance of the CPU and GPU. In the the benchmark they did the N4 outperformed the iPhone 5 by quite a bit (N4 scored 2009, iPhone 5 scored 1551, Geekbench, bigger is better). Navigating the OS is, according to them, very fast as is (3D) gaming.
However, they do complain about the quality of the screen (washed out colors), its brightness (they say "even the Galaxy Nexus' screen is brighter") and the battery life. They tested the battery using an app called Antutu-Tester. Pushing all 4 cores to their limits, the N4's battery lasted for 1.5h. Using the same app, Golem.de claims the HTC One X Plus lasted 2.5h. They went on testing the batteries and tried to simulate heavy usage. WLAN and UMTS were switched on, the screen's brightness was maxed out, Facebook, E-Mail and Twitter accounts were active and according to the website the N4's battery dropped by a third in 1 1/2h. They failed to mention whether the phone was actively used in these 1.5h or whether it was just in standby.
Golem.de also claims that, in contrast to the hardware specs Google provided, the N4 does support WLAN-a.
They praise the overall performance of the CPU and GPU. In the the benchmark they did the N4 outperformed the iPhone 5 by quite a bit (N4 scored 2009, iPhone 5 scored 1551, Geekbench, bigger is better). Navigating the OS is, according to them, very fast as is (3D) gaming.
However, they do complain about the quality of the screen (washed out colors), its brightness (they say "even the Galaxy Nexus' screen is brighter") and the battery life. They tested the battery using an app called Antutu-Tester. Pushing all 4 cores to their limits, the N4's battery lasted for 1.5h. Using the same app, Golem.de claims the HTC One X Plus lasted 2.5h. They went on testing the batteries and tried to simulate heavy usage. WLAN and UMTS were switched on, the screen's brightness was maxed out, Facebook, E-Mail and Twitter accounts were active and according to the website the N4's battery dropped by a third in 1 1/2h. They failed to mention whether the phone was actively used in these 1.5h or whether it was just in standby.
Golem.de also claims that, in contrast to the hardware specs Google provided, the N4 does support WLAN-a.
I don't know what that would do for his decision; it's not as though the phone is going to stop working in 3 years.
Sen²;44160876 said:
I always get a good chuckle when tech sites test battery life with stress tests. It's like testing a car for mileage by chaining the car to the ground and burning rubber until the tank is empty. That being said battery life on current devices is pathetic. Just image if your phone was 5mm thicker but lasted twice as long.
FallingEdge
Member
I still have confident with the updated OS and with custom roms/kernals, the battery life will be fantastic.
PotatoeMasher
Member
Sen²;44160876 said:
That doesn't mesh at all with the benchmarks Anandtech did: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
(GPU tests on the next page)
hah yea
Meant to be. Anyway, Anandtech's testing found the Nexus 4 screen to be brighter than the Galaxy Nexus by a pretty huge margin.
The Faceless Master
Member
different benchmarks test and score in different ways?
There is some major thermal throttling happening that is slowing down the performance of this phone. Anandtech repeated their benchmarks with their phone in the freezer and the performance was much, much better. I imagine that the sites reporting high benchmark scores are testing the device in lower ambient temps.
criesofthepast
Member
No one is buying my 4S on Craigslist. Buying this phone is dependant on me selling my 4S. I asked for $500 initially (maybe too high?) and lowered it to $450. It's factory unlocked bought from apple. I can still sell it for $450 and buy a nexus and have $100 profit.
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Try Kijiji, it seems to be a lot more reputable up here in Canada vs Craigslist.
Also, I wish Google would let me preorder instead of waiting til the 13th. What sort of weirdass release date nonsense is that? I guess since they got burned on the N7 launch stupidity, they don't want to promise anyone a release date anymore.
Vyse The Legend
Member
See below.
This is exactly right. When they re-ran the tests with the Nexus 4 in a chilled environment, it outperformed the iPhone 5 in many areas.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Why throttle the phone to this extent though...seems strange.
In the podcast they said that thermal throttling was kicking in at lower temperatures than expected. Who knows how will phone work with updated software [new firmware is coming before release day].
criesofthepast
Member
Ill try kijiji as well. Forgot about them. Thanks. Hope I get a few bites and get rid of it this weekend.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Apparently there is just an XML file that can be adjusted.
Technosteve
Banned
n4 will preform better then iphone 5 if you live in the artic circle.
Some reviewers have said that the phone gets incredibly hot during benchmarks, so the trottling is most likely in place to stop the soc from being fried due to excess heat.
I dont think its going to be a problem unless you play games, though. Ars technica said that the phone had great benchmarking performance the first time a benchmark was run but it was poor the second time it was run due to the thermal throttling.
I imagine a lot of gamers are going to be disappointed. The iphone 5 is a much better phone for games, imo.
Finally, Google makes a product with Canadians in mind first.
I wonder if Google/LG cheaped out on the heat spreader on the Nexus 4? It seems like the Optimus G is getting better benches, which to me would mean that either the thermal throttling kicks in at a lower temperature, or that the Optimus handles the heat better than the Nexus 4.
Hopefully it's more of the former than the latter.
Hopefully it's more of the former than the latter.
The biggest things that turn me off about this phone:
1. Battery - but it's apparently still better than my current phone. Still, an awesome battery would make me pretty happy.
2. LCD - I read a lot on my phone, I do that more than anything else I think, and I've gotten accustomed to reading e-books in 'night mode' ie, black background with white font. Doing that on a lCD is a much different experience than with OLED... so if it's not up to snuff, I might hold out for something else more OLEDy and cheap.
1. Battery - but it's apparently still better than my current phone. Still, an awesome battery would make me pretty happy.
2. LCD - I read a lot on my phone, I do that more than anything else I think, and I've gotten accustomed to reading e-books in 'night mode' ie, black background with white font. Doing that on a lCD is a much different experience than with OLED... so if it's not up to snuff, I might hold out for something else more OLEDy and cheap.
FallingEdge
Member
With regards to the battery, I think once the final version of the OS comes out along with rooting, things will be great.