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Nexus 7 2013 |OT| No SD card edition

IronChef

Banned
That's because the Tab 3 is complete garbage from a spec standpoint. http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/22/4543316/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-0-and-10-1-review

I saw that - but that is one negative review out of many more positive reviews I've read. It's also one of the more "fluff" reviews that doesn't actually include any carefully controlled tests. I'd trust this review as much as I trust a CNN review of a video game.

I give their review a 4/10.


Here's a much better technical review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_80-review-947.php

And plenty others that generally are positive:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
http://www.digitaltrends.com/tablet-reviews/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-inch-wi-fi-review/
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-0-review-17290671/

And from the standpoint of actual owners:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

An average user satisfaction rating of 4.5/5 (with 44 reviews) is nothing to scoff at.
 

Mission

Member
I saw that - but that is one negative review out of many more positive reviews I've read. It's also one of the more "fluff" reviews that doesn't actually include any carefully controlled tests. I'd trust this review as much as I trust a CNN review of a video game.

I give their review a 4/10.

...

An average user satisfaction rating of 4.5/5 (with 44 reviews) is nothing to scoff at.

This for sure. I don't notice any of the lag they mention. There is a delay in switching perspectives but that's not the same thing as lag. The re-render as it does it is very quick. I find it great to hold and I still can't believe how light and thin it is, both of which remain better than the new N7.
 
For a person who mainly wants to use it for comics, does anyone think it'll do the job? I've read stories on the internet from fellow readers who have said that the 7" size isn't a super big deal except for splash pages and the high resolution screen in the new model makes it super tempting. As long as I can read the text and make out details in the art without zooming in too much I think I'm good. I'll be using Comixology to read them.

Preorders aren't available in Canada yet so I'd like to ask around about this.
I read comics on the original 7 all the time and I love it. Comixology works well, I have a pretty large collection on there. I read the text fine. I keep the tab pretty close (read often at night in bed) and you will have to rotate and zoom on splash pages occasionally. In many ways I prefer it to reading them on my iPad 3 even though the res is better on that because its so perfect sized for one hand. I imagine the new screen is a nice upgrade, reading comics on it is my primary reason for wanting to upgrade.
 

Husker86

Member
This for sure. I don't notice any of the lag they mention. There is a delay in switching perspectives but that's not the same thing as lag. The re-render as it does it is very quick. I find it great to hold and I still can't believe how light and thin it is, both of which remain better than the new N7.

1280 X 800.

I hope the Nexus 7 eventually grows a bit bigger, but resolution difference is worth it I think.
 
Was evaluating along with some 8" tablets for purchase. No SD card and thick bezel kills this.

Hard to justify the $269 (32GB version) for this this when a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0" can be had for almost same price, with 64GB of extra storage available for cheap.

The resolution is nice, but on a screen this small it's overkill.

Centimeter for centimeter, and ounce for ounce the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0" seems like the better value:

http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_google_nexus_7_2-5600.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_8_0-5456.php

Nexus 7 2:
Dimensions 201 x 114.3 x 7.9 mm (7.91 x 4.5 x 0.31 in)
Weight 317.5 g (11.18 oz)

Tab 3 8.0"
Dimensions 209.8 x 123.8 x 7.4 mm (8.26 x 4.87 x 0.29 in)
Weight 314 g (11.08 oz)

For a slightly longer and wider (but thinner) body the Tab 3 houses a bigger screen that wastes less space on bezel. The Samsung is also lighter despite having a bigger battery.
One is a Nexus and one is not. That makes all the difference to me. Stock Android with all of the latest updates > Touchwiz.
 

Argyle

Member
I saw that - but that is one negative review out of many more positive reviews I've read. It's also one of the more "fluff" reviews that doesn't actually include any carefully controlled tests. I'd trust this review as much as I trust a CNN review of a video game.

I give their review a 4/10.


Here's a much better technical review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_80-review-947.php

And plenty others that generally are positive:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
http://www.digitaltrends.com/tablet-reviews/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-inch-wi-fi-review/
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-0-review-17290671/

And from the standpoint of actual owners:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

An average user satisfaction rating of 4.5/5 (with 44 reviews) is nothing to scoff at.


FWIW the Nexus 7 CPU is probably over 2x as fast as the CPU in the Galaxy Tab 3 (which seems to be an oc'ed and die shrunk version of the SOC in the Galaxy S2). The GPU is probably ahead by a similar margin.

I like having SD card support but honestly, I've been trucking along with my 8GB Nexus 7. The only thing that takes up space on my tablet is the occasional game, for my uses I never load much onto mine.
 

Somnid

Member
I saw that - but that is one negative review out of many more positive reviews I've read. It's also one of the more "fluff" reviews that doesn't actually include any carefully controlled tests. I'd trust this review as much as I trust a CNN review of a video game.

I give their review a 4/10.


Here's a much better technical review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_3_80-review-947.php

And plenty others that generally are positive:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-3-8-inch-Review_id3337
http://www.digitaltrends.com/tablet-reviews/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-inch-wi-fi-review/
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-3-8-0-review-17290671/

And from the standpoint of actual owners:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

An average user satisfaction rating of 4.5/5 (with 44 reviews) is nothing to scoff at.

I'm sure it's fine in a vacuum. But by comparison it's more expensive and worse on just about every front.
 

Sajjaja

Member
Nexus 27.

Forget streaming to your TV. Your tablet is the TV.

wobQw.gif


I laughed.
 

IronChef

Banned
1280 X 800.

I hope the Nexus 7 eventually grows a bit bigger, but resolution difference is worth it I think.

To each his own.

Even now, the standard computer monitor resolution is 1920 x 1080. On a 27" monitor that's a measly 82 DPI, and people have been happily browsing the web, reading news, and playing games on this resolution for more than a decade.

Only recently are higher rez monitors starting to come into the picture.

Of course higher resolution is better, but all this DPI craze reminds me of the megapixel wars for cameras - beyond a pixel count pictures do not get any better due to limitations in optics, sensor size, etc. Similarly, beyond a certain DPI (I think around 250) it is very hard to notice further improvements in screen clarity for the typical tablet viewing distances. After the 250 point, it's mostly marketing.

The Tab 3 8.0" doesn't reach 250 dpi, but it'll suffice, and it's still a much higher DPI than any standard PC monitor.

Also in my case the value of a bigger screen (8" is significantly bigger than 7" if you look at two tablets side by side) is better than the value of more pixels on a smaller area.
 

IronChef

Banned
I'm sure it's fine in a vacuum. But by comparison it's more expensive and worse on just about every front.

What vacuum? The reviews I posted directly compares it to other tablets, maybe not the Nexus 7 2 since it was just announced.

It maybe worse on just about every front that YOU care about, but it's better on plenty of fronts that OTHER people may care about.

I assume you're mostly referring to the performance. I'm mostly getting a tablet for the following:
- Movie / TV watching
A 1:30hr movie still takes 1:30hr to watch, no matter how much faster the processor is.

- Web browsing
How much power do you need to browse typical websites?

- Comics
8" is much better for this. How is a faster processor going to make reading comics better?

- Casual gaming
When I want to play Skyrim I have my rig. When I'm on the road, Angry birds and any number of android games that ran fine on phones 2 years ago is just fine on the Samsung tab.
 

Somnid

Member
What vacuum? The reviews I posted directly compares it to other tablets, maybe not the Nexus 7 2 since it was just announced.

It maybe worse on just about every front that YOU care about, but it's better on plenty of fronts that OTHER people may care about.

I assume you're mostly referring to the performance. I'm mostly getting a tablet for the following:
- Movie / TV watching
A 1:30hr movie still takes 1:30hr to watch, no matter how much faster the processor is.

- Web browsing
How much power do you need to browse typical websites?

- Comics
8" is much better for this. How is a faster processor going to make reading comics better?

- Casual gaming
When I want to play Skyrim I have my rig. When I'm on the road, Angry birds and any number of android games that ran fine on phones 2 years ago is just fine on the Samsung tab.

Not caring about the difference is another matter.
 

Groof

Junior Member
Hopefully this gets released sooner rather than later worldwide. While my current N7 does the job, I've been aching for an upgrade.
This one looks slick as fuck and like a nice bump up from what we had before.
 

IronChef

Banned
FWIW the Nexus 7 CPU is probably over 2x as fast as the CPU in the Galaxy Tab 3 (which seems to be an oc'ed and die shrunk version of the SOC in the Galaxy S2). The GPU is probably ahead by a similar margin.

I like having SD card support but honestly, I've been trucking along with my 8GB Nexus 7. The only thing that takes up space on my tablet is the occasional game, for my uses I never load much onto mine.

See my reply to Somnid.

I'll be using a tablet for movies and entire series of TV shows (720p quality). Those fill up space QUICK.
 

Argyle

Member
See my reply to Somnid.

I'll be using a tablet for movies and entire series of TV shows (720p quality). Those fill up space QUICK.

Buy whatever makes you happy...

My tablet gets used for web browsing mostly, which benefits greatly from a faster CPU and a higher resolution screen.
 
Why do some of you crave SD cards so much ? What do you do with your tablet that requires so much storage ? This isn't a laptop. If what you care about is easy transfers though, just get AirDroid. It's fantastic.
 

Somnid

Member
32 should be the standard without SD support. I can't stand this bullshit bullying people into the cloud.

It's not so much about the cloud as it is about the upsell. How much do you think Google makes on the base model? How much does 16GB cost to them? This is also why IronChef's Galaxy Tab costs so much and isn't much to write about. Samsung needs actual profit on the device or it's not worth it. The storage and SD slot are cheap but a good screen and CPU aren't.
 

Vibranium

Banned
I read comics on the original 7 all the time and I love it. Comixology works well, I have a pretty large collection on there. I read the text fine. I keep the tab pretty close (read often at night in bed) and you will have to rotate and zoom on splash pages occasionally. In many ways I prefer it to reading them on my iPad 3 even though the res is better on that because its so perfect sized for one hand. I imagine the new screen is a nice upgrade, reading comics on it is my primary reason for wanting to upgrade.

Thanks man, I think I might take the plunge, since I plan on mainly just reading them up close and lying down. Hopefully the screen material itself looks good too.
 

isual

Member
my mom just bought a 32gb nexus 7 for 180 usd .

what can i say to her that it was a bad purchase, and she should just get the new one coming out in a week ?
 

reKon

Banned
is there really an issue with that glass? you guys understand that gorilla glass is just branding right?

(but then again, my Galaxy Nexus screen feels like shit compared to the HTC One, which is nice a smooth...)

I don't know if that's attributed to the actual glass that was used on the Nexus or some type of coating.
 

Shai-Tan

Banned
I use mine enough to justify the performance upgrade. Chrome is a little too dodgy on the current model.

Also the tegra 3 doesn't support hardware decode of Dolby ac3 and the s4 pro does. I was hoping when I bought the n7 that I could watch movies on my media server without transcoding but it was too slow since Nvidia skimped out on codec support. I'm pretty sure the s4 pro can't hw decode dts but maybe the cpu will be fast enough.
 
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