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NFL 2011 Week 8 |OT| Tim Tebow
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Ahhh this definitely explains the Chris Harris move by the Lions.
Second backup safety that's gone on IR this season.
Second backup safety that's gone on IR this season.
TheLegendary
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cajunator said:
You would know from your extensive time there
Buckethead
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Bikini girlseznark said:
Kinda wish there were some better rivalries in the NFC West. I mean, I don't really hate the Cardinals, Seahawks or Rams. Not sure what cultivates that good rivalry between divisions? Maybe just give it some time, I know the Seahawks haven't been part of the division for very long.
Cowboys and Packers strike me as more of rivals than the three NFC West teams, although thats due to the 90s playoffs.
Cowboys and Packers strike me as more of rivals than the three NFC West teams, although thats due to the 90s playoffs.
Futurevoid
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History and continued competitiveness between the teams in the division. It's also why you'll find that fans of NFC East teams will usually list rivals in the division before any other team in the league.Drakeon said:
Of course in the 80's/early 90's the Giants/Niners rivalry was pretty apparent. Same for the Bears. There's some residual hatred for the Cardinals as well, them having been in the East and all but very little remains.
The East gets so much media attention because of the rivalries and history between the teams and because of the success of the division.
It makes for good (and highly rated) football match-ups more often than not.
The NFC South has a pretty bitter rivalry with each other as well. Probably due to the whole worst to first phenomenon where a different team is first in the division seemingly every year. I kind of like it that way though because no one team is dominant for nearly a whole decade like the AFC East/AFC West.
Elfforkusu
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Probably been posted, but there was an interesting little editorial on deadspin about HGH a few days ago:
http://deadspin.com/5853658/why-hgh-will-never-be-a-problem-in-the-nfl?tag=NFL-roundtable
Goro Majima
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Eric Walton said:
St. Louis I would think.
I hope the Vikings stay and build an outdoor stadium. Domes are for sissies.
Spectral Glider
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Alligatorjandro said:
I haven't hated the Browns since the early 90s. Then those assholes from Baltimore stole their team and left the city even worse than it was. Ahh, the early 90s when my hate list was:
Browns
Oilers
Cowboys
Bills
Forty-Whiners
Drakeon said:
The NFL divisions have always bugged me. AFCS is also a problem b/c of lack of geographic or historical rivalries
The LA Rams and 49ers had an ever so slight rivalry in the Chris Everett era. But mostly, the division is just a cobbled together mess, with no geographic identity. The fact that all the teams usually suck doesn't help.
Cards: Used to be in NFC East
49ers: True NFCW
Rams: Missouri is not West
SEA: Used to be in AFC
When the Rams move to London, hopefully they can realign a few of the teams/divisions. Leave AFCN, NFCN, and NFCS alone. NFL should move Dallas out of the East but they never will
cajunator said:
This is how he earned that nickname
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDD-naRLo0A&feature=related#t=03m38s
AngmarsKing701
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crimzonflame said:
Something something package.
AngmarsKing701
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Alligatorjandro said:
I take them to the Super Bowl at least omce every day.
Elfforkusu
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Yeah, you're not breaking up the NFC East.Eric Walton said:
The St Louis/Vikings trade will totally happen if the Vikes relocate to LA, though. Just makes too much sense.
Eric Walton said:
I like that, no reason for Cowboys to be in the East. Fuck rivalry and history nonsense.
AFC East:
New England, NYJ, Buffalo/Toronto, Baltimore
AFC North:
Indy, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati
AFC South:
Jacksonville, Miami, Houston, Tennessee
AFC West:
Denver, Oakland, San Diego, KC
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
watsquicken said:
I thought the rivalry went all the way back into the 40s when both teams joined the NFL. Really picked up in the late 60s/early 70s (Rams were good then Niners were good then Rams took it again) and then into the 80s and 90s (both teams made the playoffs several times).
XiaNaphryz said:
As I always understood it, the 49ers had been a joke franchise for a long time until Bill Walsh got there. Even then that division sucked. They had the Saints and the Falcons in the NFCW
There's lots of things they could do for realignment, but I'd love to see a HOU/DAL/NO division, with probably AZ as the throw in team. Dallas would never allow that. They don't want the Texans on equal footing in the state, and don't want to lose access to big NE markets
I hate the cowboys because they fucking suck most years and the media still slobbers over them. It's kind of ridiculous. I know they get a lot of attention for being in NFC East and having a fucking gigantic market but I just get sick of hearing about them constantly. I'm pretty sure a lot of fans of other teams feel the same way. Other franchises have been very successful but you don't see the media continually slobbing their knob unless they happen to be good that year.
FrenchMovieTheme
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squicken said:
no we weren't a joke of a franchise in the early 70's. dick nolan had some decent years but people often refer to us as a joke because we had back to back years of 2-14 ('78 and '79). we weren't horrible every year though, we just couldn't beat the cowpies. we lost to them in the playoffs in 1970, 1971 and 1972. that is why it was such a big deal that we beat them in 1981
SlackAdjuster
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Spectral Glider said:
Games with the Oilers used to be so fun
ConradCervantes
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eznark said:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
1. Bears
2. Lions
3. Eagles
4. Cowboys
5. Vikings
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Thanks for the info. I really don't know much history on the non-marquee teams in the league. So I just fall back on what I was around for.
SlackAdjuster said:
Yes! The Glanville/Schotty/Wyche era was great. I will leave Chuck Noll of that list b/c he was too classy but also b/c the game had passed him by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpuCIT9rZg
overcast said:
The newest rumor is Kroenke being the point man to set up the league in London. The NFL really wanted him to take over the team from the Rosenblum's. The league doesn't want the Glazers involved with the London team, and Kroenke is familiar with things b/c of his Arsenal ownership
HOW DARE YOU SULLY THIS MAGNIFICENT THREAD PANDERING FOR FANTASY FOOTBALL ADVICE?!overcast said:
/eznark
I think you go Brady over Stafford pretty much any time, nice problem to have early in the season, and I think Stafford will eventually break out again with Megatron, but Brady to Welker is always too dangerous to not have in the lineup.
squicken said:
They weren't a joke franchise, they would have some good seasons, followed by some bad seasons.
They were a joke franchise right before Walsh took over, though. They went from 2-14 in 79 to 13-3 and a Super Bowl title in two years.
As for realignment, you can't break up divisions like the NFC East or AFC West. The NFL likes rivalries because it makes money.
goldlion054
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overcast said:
Staff might not even play this week. So go with Brady
Goro Majima
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squicken said:
Never draft a Canadian addicted to pain killers...
It's hard not to look at the 1989 draft and go "what if?"
BankaiZaraki
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Eric Walton said:
This makes so much sense that it'll never happen.
BankaiZaraki
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The way I would realign the divisions is as followed.
AFC South-Jacksonville,Houston,Miami,Tennessee
AFC East-Buffalo,New York Jets,New England Patriots,Baltimore Ravens
AFC North-Indianapolis Colts,Pittsburgh Steelers,Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns
AFC West-Denver Broncos,Kansas City Chiefs,St. Louis Rams,Seattle Seahawks
NFC South-Atlanta Falcons,Tampa Bay Buccaneers,New Orleans Saints,Dallas Cowboys
NFC East-Washington Redskins,New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles,Carolina Panthers
NFC North-Detroit Lions,Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears,Minnesota Vikings
NFC West-Arizona Cardinals,San Francisco 49ers,San Deigo Chargers,Oakland Raiders
In California, you would have 3 teams in the NFC West which would I think make for great rivalries and in the AFC West you would have 3 teams within close proximity to each other and also move Indianapolis out of the AFC South and put them in the AFC North where they truely belong in the first place and move Miami to the AFC South and move Baltimore to the AFC East.
What do you guys think?
AFC South-Jacksonville,Houston,Miami,Tennessee
AFC East-Buffalo,New York Jets,New England Patriots,Baltimore Ravens
AFC North-Indianapolis Colts,Pittsburgh Steelers,Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns
AFC West-Denver Broncos,Kansas City Chiefs,St. Louis Rams,Seattle Seahawks
NFC South-Atlanta Falcons,Tampa Bay Buccaneers,New Orleans Saints,Dallas Cowboys
NFC East-Washington Redskins,New York Giants, Philadelphia Eagles,Carolina Panthers
NFC North-Detroit Lions,Green Bay Packers, Chicago Bears,Minnesota Vikings
NFC West-Arizona Cardinals,San Francisco 49ers,San Deigo Chargers,Oakland Raiders
In California, you would have 3 teams in the NFC West which would I think make for great rivalries and in the AFC West you would have 3 teams within close proximity to each other and also move Indianapolis out of the AFC South and put them in the AFC North where they truely belong in the first place and move Miami to the AFC South and move Baltimore to the AFC East.
What do you guys think?
TheLegendary
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You'd think LeBeau would be able to develop or recognize DB talent. Not that it always correlates of course.
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