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NFL 2012 Conference Championship |OT| My Brother's Kaeper

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Bowser

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DeaconKnowledge said:
Bullshit. Lovie isn't getting a job because the league is obsessed with offense right now.
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While that also plays a part, take a look at the coaches that were hired this offseason. The only retread is Andy Reid, and he has a comparable resume to Lovie but brings the offensive background as you mentioned. I was mainly responding to GR's question as to why "asshole loser coaches" keep getting jobs. My point was that if Lovie wanted to, he could get a job as a DC for any number of teams right now. But he wanted a head job and he clearly isn't bringing the "en vogue" skills for a head job in today's environment. Maybe he'll fare better next year.
 
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DeaconKnowledge

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eznark said:
Oh, well, why would teams be lining up to give their head coaching job to a guy who just failed at head coaching?
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Reid got a job.

Bowser said:
While that also plays a part, take a look at the coaches that were hired this offseason. The only retread is Andy Reid, and he has a comparable resume to Lovie but brings the offensive background as you mentioned. I was mainly responding to GR's question as to why "asshole loser coaches" keep getting jobs. My point was that if Lovie wanted to, he could be a DC for any number of teams right now, but he wanted a head job and he's clearly not in the right environment to get one.
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We're basically agreeing.
 
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mr2xxx

Banned
Greg said:
I'm not sure if "fucked up" is the right term, but:

http://nesn.com/2013/01/stevan-ridl...onse-which-caused-fumble-in-afc-championship/
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He got hit so hard his body went into " I want my mommy mode", funny yet fucked up at the same time.

It was a great hit but now that we know so much more about the long term damage it it kills whatever temporary joy I get from it. While Ridley was unconscious, the rest of the players were fighting for the ball for a long time. Made me just feel bad and I thought this is a great example of how we put the game over the players safety.
 
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squicken

Member
chuckddd said:
Those guys don't get fined for uniform violations without being warned. Nobody to blame but themselves.
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Yep. And the key word is uniform.

Now Gore getting fined more than Browner did for trying murder Jennings is dumb, but that's what the players wanted in the CBA!
 
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squicken

Member
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How could you spend that much time faking being someone else. And how is Teo able to read and write?
 
Goro Majima

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
DeaconKnowledge said:
Lovie got the Bears to the NFC Championship twice since Reid was last there, and went 10-6 the year he was fired.
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Those teams were mostly carried by the defense though. For Lovie Smith you have to hire some superb offensive coordinator to compensate and, like people have been saying, good luck keeping said OC if you actually do win a Super Bowl.

Lovie Smith is destined to either make a bunch of cash in college as a head coach or as a very well compensated DC in the pros.
 
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DeaconKnowledge

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ActStriker said:
But your reasoning ended up being that Lovie had a better recent track record than Andy, and thus should've been hired before him.
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Again, no.

My assertion is that he should have been hired. Andy and Lovie were considered the two best coaches available, so I was comparing one to the other.

Andy got hired because despite his record not comparing to Lovie's as recently, he is an offensive minded coach with a track record of success.
 
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DeaconKnowledge

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eznark said:
Just trying to start a football discussion, unwad your panties, Tom.
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For the record, I would have hired Andy ahead of Lovie too. It's an offensive league and the league has shown that defensive coaches have a harder time installing potent offenses than the reverse.

That said, Lovie is a good coach who was a Cutler bitch out away from the Super Bowl just two years ago. I figured someone would take a chance with him.
 
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squicken

Member
Greg said:
that's not fair - he has grown so much as a player since then

can't wait to see what an off season of chemistry does
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I read McGinn's grades for the team someone linked. Really amazing how he doesn't hold back. I thought he graded Finley pretty well?

edit: never mind thinking of Jones
 
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Buckethead

Banned
People I would cut:
- Finley for being a fuckup
- Williams for being a cow fucker
- Woodson for being old
- Starks for being a liability
- Hawk for scaring children with his face
- Sherrod for being a bust
- Worthy for being an underachiever
- Walden for sucking
- Eznark for his bitch mouth
 
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jakncoke

Banned
bionic77 said:
I wonder who has the job of watching game tape to make sure players are wearing their socks correctly.

:lol
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Some loser intern or someone like Wellington that wants access to game tape. Remember that one time he called a couple times pretending to be different people in attempt to view footage, man that was truly a great nfl-age moment
 
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XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Seau's family files wrongful death lawsuit against NFL, helmet manufacturer Riddell also being sued

The family of Junior Seau has sued the NFL, claiming the former linebacker's suicide was the result of brain disease caused by violent hits he sustained while playing football.

The wrongful death lawsuit, filed Wednesday in California Superior Court in San Diego, blames the NFL for its "acts or omissions" that hid the dangers of repetitive blows to the head. It says Seau developed chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) from those hits, and accuses the NFL of deliberately ignoring and concealing evidence of the risks associated with traumatic brain injuries.

Seau died at age 43 of a self-inflicted gunshot in May. He was diagnosed with CTE, based on posthumous tests, earlier this month.

An Associated Press review in November found that more than 3,800 players have sued the NFL over head injuries in at least 175 cases as the concussion issue has gained attention in recent years. More than 100 of the concussion lawsuits have been brought together before U.S. District Judge Anita B. Brody in Philadelphia.

"Our attorneys will review it and respond to the claims appropriately through the court," the NFL said in a statement Wednesday.

Helmet manufacturer Riddell Inc., also is being sued by the Seaus, who say Riddell was "negligent in their design, testing, assembly, manufacture, marketing, and engineering of the helmets" used by NFL players. The suit says the helmets were unreasonably dangerous and unsafe.

Seau was one of the best linebackers during his 20 seasons in the NFL. He retired in 2009.

"We were saddened to learn that Junior, a loving father and teammate, suffered from CTE," the family said in a statement released to the AP. "While Junior always expected to have aches and pains from his playing days, none of us ever fathomed that he would suffer a debilitating brain disease that would cause him to leave us too soon.

"We know this lawsuit will not bring back Junior. But it will send a message that the NFL needs to care for its former players, acknowledge its decades of deception on the issue of head injuries and player safety, and make the game safer for future generations."

Plaintiffs are listed as Gina Seau, Junior's ex-wife; Junior's children Tyler, Sydney, Jake and Hunter, and Bette Hoffman, trustee of Seau's estate.

The lawsuit accuses the league of glorifying the violence in pro football, and creating the impression that delivering big hits "is a badge of courage which does not seriously threaten one's health."

It singles out NFL Films and some of its videos for promoting the brutality of the game.

"In 1993's 'NFL Rocks,' Junior Seau offered his opinion on the measure of a punishing hit: 'If I can feel some dizziness, I know that guy is feeling double (that),' " the suit says.

The NFL consistently has denied allegations similar to those in the lawsuit.

"The NFL, both directly and in partnership with the NIH, Centers for Disease Control and other leading organizations, is committed to supporting a wide range of independent medical and scientific research that will both address CTE and promote the long-term health and safety of athletes at all levels," the league told the AP after it was revealed Seau had CTE.

The lawsuit claims money was behind the NFL's actions.

"The NFL knew or suspected that any rule changes that sought to recognize that link (to brain disease) and the health risk to NFL players would impose an economic cost that would significantly and adversely change the profit margins enjoyed by the NFL and its teams," the Seaus said in the suit.

The National Institutes of Health, based in Bethesda, Md., studied three unidentified brains, one of which was Seau's, and said the findings on Seau were similar to autopsies of people "with exposure to repetitive head injuries."

"It was important to us to get to the bottom of this, the truth," Gina Seau told the AP then. "And now that it has been conclusively determined from every expert that he had obviously had CTE, we just hope it is taken more seriously. You can't deny it exists, and it is hard to deny there is a link between head trauma and CTE. There's such strong evidence correlating head trauma and collisions and CTE."

In the final years of his life, Seau went through wild behavior swings, according to Gina and to 23-year-old son, Tyler. There also were signs of irrationality, forgetfulness, insomnia and depression.

"He emotionally detached himself and would kind of 'go away' for a little bit," Tyler Seau said. "And then the depression and things like that. It started to progressively get worse."
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Kacar

Member
Chudzinski said it would be "premature" to declare Weeden the QB next season, Probably because he is already on the verge of retirement age.
 
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DeaconKnowledge

Member
Buckethead said:
People I would cut:
- Finley for being a fuckup
- Williams for being a cow fucker
- Woodson for being old
- Starks for being a liability
- Hawk for scaring children with his face
- Sherrod for being a bust
- Worthy for being an underachiever
- Walden for sucking
- Eznark for his bitch mouth
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Do the Packers consider Sherrod a bust?
 
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