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NFL 2012 Week 4 |OT| Dewey Beats Truman
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Raiders are an old-school AFL team. It's an iconic football brand.
Buckethead
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Those jerseys were so much better than their shit colors and shit design nowadays.
Officerrob
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The Raiders brand is iconic to anyone who knows anything about football
FrenchMovieTheme
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Actually to clarify a bit, I have watched quite a bit of football since childhood. I wasn't aware of the rules enough to appreciate it until 2004, when I decided to start following it to the level I do now.
I have been to LSU and ULL games as a kid for example, but I didnt appreciate it back then. Still rooted for LSU and the Saints, but as a family thing. I had no choice but to be exposed to football from an early age because all of my relatives are diehard fans of the Louisiana teams. Personally I was more into doing stuff like building models and legos and videogames than football.
OriginofHysteria
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lol someone dropped DeSean Jackson. wat
On his head?
I know this looks like I'm trolling you guys but I'm not. But the league doesn't care about informed sports fans. It cares about people who buy tickets, regardless of how informed they are. They struggled to draw in LA, and they struggled to draw in Oakland, twice
Who knows? Supposedly Al had a secret plan to make sure that on his wife's passing (she technically owns the team) that the estate taxes could be paid and Mark would keep controlling interest
I'll stop now
OriginofHysteria
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lol who they pick up
OriginofHysteria
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lol Andrew Hawkins from Cin.
I would normally discount this as a myth and stupid lies because of legendary things like the classic uniform and the song autumn wind, but then I remembered this is a league that is replacing Steve Sabol's legacy with NFL TOP TEN FACTS NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT. Its a sad transition but the Raiders lore doesn't fit in it anymore.
Every redesign has been worst than the last, I think. I like Pat the Patriot and the red uniforms.
Nemesis121
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It's Iconic because of Al Davis, just like Jerry Jones is bigger than his Cowboys...
bears... What's so iconic about bears? 1 Super Bowl?
no way in Super Bowl era. he'll I say Vikings over bears. at least Viking had Brett favre.
I seriously hope they don't get away from the Raiders name or identity. It fits the rough edged Oakland, whether anyone likes it or not. Its absolutely perfect.
Actually the league right now is as perfect as it could ever be. Just the right amount of teams and the right cities. the only exception might be Tampa or Jacksonville but the fans that are there are no doubt resentful of moving the team. The problem is that just not enough of them seem to care.
Actually the league right now is as perfect as it could ever be. Just the right amount of teams and the right cities. the only exception might be Tampa or Jacksonville but the fans that are there are no doubt resentful of moving the team. The problem is that just not enough of them seem to care.
Dutch Gronk
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I hope Andrewie turns out to be the biggest piece of shit ever. Fucking Colts blerfs
FrenchMovieTheme
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NFL playbook on nfln is brilliant.
Shannon Sharpe: You dont get to see the videos we do, but there was a play last week where shonne greene had a HUGE hole on the left, but instead takes it up the middle for no gain!
but they don't show any video of this play. thumbs up
Shannon Sharpe: You dont get to see the videos we do, but there was a play last week where shonne greene had a HUGE hole on the left, but instead takes it up the middle for no gain!
but they don't show any video of this play. thumbs up
I do like when they go over big plays in games and stuff like that.
NFL Network is getting pretty insufferable lately though.
What about Nebraska Omaha ? They have one in Tennessee .
The Nighthawks are good enough for them.
We only just arrived, and it's raining ;-)
Sadly, we also only have one da here.
But so far Maine has been beautiful, as it should be.
Ugh. How does that even happen?
When I puke, I at least realize it in advance.
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85 D? You kidding me? You like football? Gives me a chubby just thinking about that D and I'm not even a Bears fan. Lol!
Dutch Gronk
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I don't even know man! I pas just partying, it was late so I picked up my jacked and it was all disgusting and stuff. It smelled like old milk. Pretty horrible.
Keith Urban is one of the most amazing artists out there today.
FrenchMovieTheme
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in his defense, he is a lions fan. he probably considers championships in the 40's or 50's or whenever the lions last won to be meaningful (which they are not)
Yeah, well... didn't wanna rub it in. Last time the Dolphins won something relevant I was like -3. It's just, I'm defensively-minded, I really appreciate superior Ds (except Jets, that's another story, douchiness offsets good D
).......Mackenzie 92
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If you're just talking about ticket sales, the Raiders do alright, it's been a tough decade, but they usually sell out their home games (last year and this year, so far) and they've always done alright in that regard.
In LA they played at the rose bowl along with the Rams and rarely sold out because it's a 90k seat stadium. Al moved them back to Oakland, because Oakland renovated the stadium and the NFL charged him no relocation fee on top of that, they lured the team back, just like LA lured him to move there with a new stadium deal in 83.
The Raiders are up there with the Packers, Cowboys and Steelers and Bears in terms of brand, and they don't have as much negative gangsta stigma attached to them as they did back in the early 90s. And their hardcore fans aren't any worse than any other team enthusiasts.
They just need a new stadium, the move wouldn't be about drawing fans or ticket sales.
See You Next Wednesday
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Damn right.
The stupid big headed commentators who couldn't tell a football from a peanut escalated this to headline news.
'85 Bears are one of the greatest and most iconic teams in sports history.
all those high school championship rings they and the packers share
Ninja Scooter
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Al Davis' senility drove the Raiders into the ground so badly that people forget they really are an iconic team. Most of the biggest teams (Steelers, Cowboys, Dolphins, Raiders) that have nationwide fan bases were the ones that had the most success in the 60s and 70s, when the NFL really exploded. Whoever buys that team will strike oil.
if a season makes a team iconic. Then what about Dolphins , undefeated season and Marino legacy or even the jets with Joe Namath.
I would take the redskins above bears.
I love to laugh at the bears misfortune as much as anyone, but there is no way in hell the Vikings are more iconic than the bears. Bears are, and have been, iconic since 85.
Elfforkusu
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I know it's common on GAF to discount anything before 1970 as having any relevance, but the NFC championship trophy is named after George Halas for a reason. And the reason is not the Bears sucking.
Though rumor has it that the Bears do, in fact, still suck.
I can corroborate this rumor.
It's all about merchandise man. Hats, t-shirts, jerseys, etc. The Raiders sell a SHITLOAD and people buy their shit no matter how bad the team is.
Ninja Scooter
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They don't draw because their stadium is a complete dump in a shitty area. Even Raider fans don't like going there.
You can speak ill of the franchise but show some class and respect the Amish.
What the hell? I wonder why the Podcast app on iOS didn't download it? I found and subscribed to it.
Packers, Cowboys, Steelers, Raiders
That's the NFL Mount Rushmore. The only team you could really argue for is the 49ers. Everybody else is a pretender.
AngmarsKing701
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crimzonflame
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The Denver Broncos?
Ninja Scooter
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Yeah, I'd say the Dolphins are closer than the Broncos.
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