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NFL 2013 Preseason/Training Camp thread - Doritos Locos

KingGondo

Banned
I shit on the Bears a lot but honestly, it's really fucking awesome that they were so brave and hired the leagues first lesbian head coach. Bravo, Chicago.
Holy shit, that's Trestman?

Chud looks how a football coach should. Disheveled, bloated, and pale from hours and hours studying tape.
 
Jeez apparently Matt Kalil eats like 6,000 calories a day just to maintain his 315 weight.

If he gets off his regiment for more than a day or two he loses between 5-7 pounds. It's cool that he is such an athelete at his size but he says he often feels so full he wants to vomit. That can't be healthy.

He lost 50 pounds this offseason before regaining.
 
Jeez apparently Matt Kalil eats like 6,000 calories a day just to maintain his 315 weight.

If he gets off his regiment for more than a day or two he loses between 5-7 pounds. It's cool that he is such an athelete at his size but he says he often feels so full he wants to vomit. That can't be healthy.

He lost 50 pounds this offseason before regaining.

"6,000?! Hahaha"

Picture of Freeman*
 
I think Edwards for his speediness and Schilens for his size likely make the team. Durham did not impress during the regular season last year outside of one play and I don't know if the team looks past that. Mike Thomas has been outright lazy in camp, dropping passes and simply stopping when running routes, forcing stafford to give up on plays with him included. He's not good enough in returning to make up for that. Actually a bit surprised he's still on the team. I think Devin Thomas goes to the practice squad and might show up next year.

Durham has good hands IMO, it's the ability to get separation that concerns me. I think he could ultimately work but I've got more confidence in Edwards and Schilens too. Mike Thomas is done IMO, I'm also surprised he's still here. Devin Thomas has potential but is a project. SOMEONE has to step up though. I'm sure Bush will get a lot of catches but one of these WRs has to take advantage of playing opposite of Megatron, or in the slot. It's like being a perimeter player with LeBron: you're gonna get tons of wide open shots and have to capitalize on that.

Gotta say I'm a lot more confident about the team now than I was immediately after the draft. The secondary is better and at least won't go to total shit if someone (ie Delmas) is injured. Still concerned about the OL but it sounds like Reiff is impressing at camp, which makes me feel better. Warford should start based on his performance thus far.
 

RBH

Member
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Madelin Beardsley is a 15-year-old with cerebral palsy. She also has selective mutism.

Sometimes, in unfamiliar settings, she clams up.

So when she planned on attending Patriots training camp last week, her parents suggested what they often do: Make a poster.

“It’s a way for her to make herself known,” Madelin’s father, Scott Beardsley, said. “For her to stand up for herself and communicate what she really wants to say.”

Last Monday night, the Beardsleys gathered in their Virginia Beach home with markers and white oak tag.

Madelin selected the text: “Tebow we came 600 miles to see you, please come see me.”

On Thursday in Foxborough, he did.

Tim Tebow — the Patriots’ renowned third-string quarterback — met Madelin after practice. He smiled. He told her he loved the poster.

“A handful of players signed autographs for Madelin,” said Scott, who grew up a Patriots fan in Beverly. “Tebow was the only one to ask her name. I can’t tell you what that meant to her. There’s something about him, something that can make someone feel so special. Even if they meet for 10 seconds.”
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...-autographs/PxNph85iPgiYMDPRbkBYhK/story.html




:')




Edit: Whoops, didn't see that squicken posted this already.
 

cashman

Banned
Feels like home here.


Yankee, and other Vegas people. What's there to do in Vegas when you're not 21? Any cool stuff I need to see/do? Also, are there any batting cages I can visit?

And how do you send postcards from here? There is somebody I need to send a card.

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Godslay

Banned
Object oriented programming. Most of it isn't overly hard to understand, but we have to learn a shitload of stuff and my memory is beyond bad, plus I started studying to late.

Oh well, there's always the next attempt.

Good luck. Wait till you get to the good stuff. Assuming you haven't moseyed down the path of Data Structures and Algos, Discrete Math, etc. Good times!
 

Milchjon

Member
Good luck. Wait till you get to the good stuff. Assuming you haven't moseyed down the path of Data Structures and Algos, Discrete Math, etc. Good times!

Well, the course was called Object Oriented Programming: Algorithms and Data Structures.

Alas, our professor must've forgotten about the algorithms part. I think 70% of the stuff I prepared for (search algorithms, traversing a graph, Huffman encoding etc.) and that was heavily featured in all previous tests didn't appear this time.

Pretty damn sure I failed. But I actually enjoyed this stuff and hope I'll do better next time.
 

Greg

Member
Normally Ben might have something to say about that, but supposedly the line is going to be a strength this year.

I will believe it when I see it though.
Rodgers would cut the number in half if he got rid of the ball faster (Harrell is an expert at this), but I know that won't happen.
 
If I were the Packers fan, Id want VY in a hot second.

Good practice material, high upside, and help finish out games/give Rodgers a breather.
 
This Ray Lewis-less future will feel so weird. One last time.


Look at those two sexy SB MVPs.

Ravens breakout star: Bernard Pierce. Had a strong rookie season backing up Ray Rice and really stepped it up in the playoffs when Ray started getting butterfingers. In 2013 they'll form a nice two-headed attack to help open up those Flacco bombs.

Underrated player: Lardarius Webb. Injury problems have kept him off the field and under the radar but I have high hopes a healthy Webb will be a standout star on this post-Ray defense.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC North Champs and #3 seed followed by a shocking Divisional Round loss to the unlikely but hot 8-8 Chargers.
they do play the Eagles' home opener, remember
 
Vegas does have things like batting cages and mini golf, there is a big go kart place near my house. Bionic mentioned shows, Cirque has a ton of shows now and they are all ages. I saw Zarkana yesterday, it sucked btw. There are so many great restaurants out here. My new favorite Shabu Shabu place is in north Vegas. Obviously you are missing out on a bunch of the experience if you are not 21 but there are still fun things you can do.
For postcards any casino gift shop will have them, the post office should as well, and lots of gas station convenience type stores should as well.


Ez everything I have heard from camp is how impressed the coaches are with Barkley. He is definitely ahead of the others guys in the mental department but the big knock against him seems to be arm strength. Hopefully that is something he can address like Rodgers did his first few years in the league.
 
I watched two new TV shows last night.

One was The Newsroom. The other was Orange Is The New Black.

Both of them were excellent, TN is definitely higher budget but theres only so much swarmy, overly witty dialogue you can take at a time so overall I enjoyed Orange more.
 

Godslay

Banned
Well, the course was called Object Oriented Programming: Algorithms and Data Structures.

Alas, our professor must've forgotten about the algorithms part. I think 70% of the stuff I prepared for (search algorithms, traversing a graph, Huffman encoding etc.) and that was heavily featured in all previous tests didn't appear this time.

Pretty damn sure I failed. But I actually enjoyed this stuff and hope I'll do better next time.

I know it sounds cliche, but practice does literally make perfect. I can sit there all day and read about algos, go through the code and understand it, but it seems like until I actually implement it by typing it out it doesn't stick.

What language are you guys using?
 

cashman

Banned
I know it sounds cliche, but practice does literally make perfect. I can sit there all day and read about algos, go through the code and understand it, but it seems like until I actually implement it by typing it out it doesn't stick.

What language are you guys using?
probably german
 
This is probably the least invested I've been into the NFL off season. I'm typically done with baseball by the All-Star break, but the Pirates have maintained brilliance this time around.

I know the Steelers upcoming season is going to rely on how well our young guys step up, so how are such people looking in training camp? (Jarvis Jones, Decastro, Adams, Le'Veon Bell, etc.)

And I get to attend a Steeler game for the 3rd season in a row. It'd be nice if we could win though... You can't get beat by the Raiders 3 games in a row....

How did the steelers game you attended in San Fran go?
 

Milchjon

Member
I know it sounds cliche, but practice does literally make perfect. I can sit there all day and read about algos, go through the code and understand it, but it seems like until I actually implement it by typing it out it doesn't stick.

What language are you guys using?

C++ and some Java. (Of course, he didn't ask a thing about Java either.)

I intend to not fail the next time!

probably german

:jnc
 
This is probably the least invested I've been into the NFL off season. I'm typically done with baseball by the All-Star break, but the Pirates have maintained brilliance this time around.

I know the Steelers upcoming season is going to rely on how well our young guys step up, so how are such people looking in training camp? (Jarvis Jones, Decastro, Adams, Le'Veon Bell, etc.)

And I get to attend a Steeler game for the 3rd season in a row. It'd be nice if we could win though... You can't get beat by the Raiders 3 games in a row....

Can't wait to see how Bell does behind that OL. He could be very good.
 

Bowser

Member
What to Watch For: Carolina Panthers

Offense

The Right Guard Position – Honestly, I could have named this “The Right Side of the Offensive Line,” as both G and T are shaky on that side. However, seeing as the Panthers cut Geoff Hangartner, the presumed starter at RG, last week, this is the position that warrants the most scrutiny. I was surprised by the move considering Hangartner’s ability to backup all three interior OL positions, so initially I thought it was a precursor to the immediate signing of a veteran G (Travelle Wharton, who had played with the Panthers previously and came in for a visit after being cut by Cincinnati recently, or potentially Brandon Moore), but that looks to not be the case. It seems the team is going to give Garry Williams, who was slated to be the starting RG two years ago before suffering a season-ending injury, will be given every opportunity to lock up the starting gig. And it seems the team has a lot of faith in 4th round DII rookie Edmund Kugbila, who injured his knee in OTAs then promptly injured his hamstring the first day of training camp (and as a result, has missed all of OTAs and training camp to date), as a quality backup. I’m skeptical, and personally, I think the answer at RG is still lurking in free agency. If I had to guess, the team will go through preseason with what they’ve got on hand and wait out Wharton until he’s willing to accept a vet min offer.

The Third Wide Receiver – As incredible as it seems, it looks as if Armanti Edwards may have pole position on the #3 WR spot ahead of Ted Ginn and Dominik Hixon. Edwards, the former Appalachian State QB/folk hero turned WR, has to this point in his career been presumed a bust (drafted in the 3rd round by Marty Hurney, who gave up a 2nd round pick for the opportunity to do it). However, by all accounts, he’s had his best camp to date and has been consistently flashing in OTAs and practices, to the point that Rivera has already said he’s earned a spot on the team. He had a gorgeous over the shoulder TD catch in live scrimmage at FanFest on Saturday between double coverage as well. Ginn has played well in camp too, but the book seems to be the same – blazing fast speed, can make difficult catches, but seems to lack the concentration needed for the easiest of catches. Still, if I had to guess, the WR depth chart 1-4 is going to be Smith/LaFell/Edwards/Ginn. We’ll probably keep Hixon and one of Pilares/Adams/Gettis as well.

Can Cam Step Up in Year 3? – A lot of brouhaha has surrounded Cam his first two years in the league. There have been incredible highs (passing/rushing records) and nadirs (Giants stomping and his reaction, pass into the dirt on 4th and goal vs Seattle, 2-12 record in games decided by a TD or less). I maintain that Cam has unfairly received a lot of the blame for losses due to blunders by the defense and Ron Rivera (Haruki Nakamura anyone?), but this season, it’s time to put up or shut up for Cam. He’s got to lead the Panthers to a winning record this year.

Defense

The Shaky Secondary – When healthy, I would put the Panthers front seven up against any other team in the league. Johnson, D. Edwards, Hardy, Kuechly, Davis, and Beason, along with newcomers (Death)Star Lotulelei, Kawann Short, AJ Klein, and Chase Blackburn give us an experienced and deep front seven. They’ll need to generate tremendous pressure, however, to mask the deficiencies in the secondary. Currently, the opening day secondary looks to be Drayton Florence/Mike Mitchell/Charles Godfrey/Captain Munnerlyn. Other than Godfrey, who’s been fairly inconsistent himself, it’s a mixture of castoffs and guys better suited to be backups/nickels. The Panthers have to hope that Mitchell can capitalize on the potential that made him a former 2nd round pick and that 2nd year CB Josh Norman can live up to his mouth. The secondary, along with the offensive line, are the two weak points on the Panthers that could hold them back from making the playoffs this season.

Special Teams
Nothing much to report here – Brad Nortman is still the Punter (sadly – he’s not very good). Ginn will be returning kickoffs (and punts, if Adams gets cut) and should offer a boost to the dreck the Panthers have had back there the past few years. Gano will be the Kicker to start the season, but given his history, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Panthers end up making a change later in the season.

Wild Card - Health and Depth
As I touched on earlier, when healthy, I feel that the Panthers have a playoff roster. However, health has eluded them for the past few years, and sadly, things look to be more of the same so far this year. Two key cogs, Beason and Stewart, have yet to participate in offseason activities, and a third, Thomas Davis, is generally healthy but has been held out of team contact drills as a precaution (probably a good idea with a guy who's torn the same ACL three consecutive times in a 2-year span). Additionally, and concurrently, depth will be paramount. I'm comfortable with Klein and Blackburn backing up Davis and Beason, and the Panthers will be fine without Stewart if it comes to it with Williams and Tolbert (personally, I think Williams actually fares better the more carries he gets), but offensive line depth is next to nonexistent and if a guy like Kalil or Gross goes down, the season probably goes down with them.

*phew* Sorry for the wall of text. Excited for this season and hope Cam and the Panthers can finally quiet the haters. The schedule looks daunting, but I think the Panthers actually caught a break by getting Seattle at home Week 1…cross country trip, early game, injuries to Seattle’s defensive line and receiving corps, it just seems like the Panthers are catching them at the best possible time.
 

Milchjon

Member
Heel goed.

Ik was in de veronderstelling een aantal C-variant.

Like this? This is German right?



Haven't used either in a couple of years. I should go back and refresh my C++ memory.

What are your favorite languages?

I intend to try a bit of C# next
because I want to try programming for Windows Phone 8, don't laugh.

I'm laughably bad at programming in general at this point, though.
 

squicken

Member
That's good stuff Bowser. CAR and HOU are the two teams where I've always been baffled by the inability to find a WR2. Do you like LaFell or is he just the de facto starter?
 
What to watch for Eagles edition:

Coaching: Chip Kelly is the new coach. How will he make the transition from college to the pros. What type of offense will he run. We still have way more questions then answers about him.

Offense:

QB battle: Barkely, Foles, and Vick are fighting for the QB spot. Foles and Vick has split reps with Barkley getting a lot less. Foles looked like the clear winner the first 2 days of camp but he has seen his play go south while Vick has gotten better each day. I think when it is all over Vick will be the starter but a lot is going to depend on how the preseason games go.

WR: Cooper out for who knows how long for being a racist jerk and Maclin hurt leaves the WR position very thin. Johnson and Salas have both looked really good in camp. Benn has been hurt and none of the other guys has really stepped up yet.

OL: 4 starters missed most of the season last year. All are healthy this year. #4 Lance Johnson has impressed in camp so far. This should be a position of strength this year.

Defense:

The switch to a 3-4 will be a big change for what has been one of the worst defenses in football the last 2 years. Cole and Graham are both moving to LB. Until we see the D in games it is really hard to say anything about them. The Eagles signed 7 FA's help improve the D this year.


Overall expect another down year while Chip tries to see who fits his system and who doesnt.
 

captive

Joe Six-Pack: posting for the common man
Youre one of those!! Don't want any part of Keenum

Only ones that want keenum are red bloods or kubiak supporters. If he was so damn talented some team would have drafted him with the premium in QBs is this league

no, has nothing to do with being a kubiak supporter. TJ is terrible at running the bootleg, he literally "fakes" the handoff and then turns around with the ball. Instead of rolling out like he should. and I use the term "fakes" loosely, as he also, still far too often, turns the wrong direction and fakes a handoff to no one. /facepalm

As for your undrafted comment, Warren Moon was undrafted, as was Kurt Warner. Great quarterbacks come from all over from 1st round to undrafted.
 

Bowser

Member
That's good stuff Bowser. CAR and HOU are the two teams where I've always been baffled by the inability to find a WR2. Do you like LaFell or is he just the de facto starter?

LaFell has definitely been de facto the past two years, but I think this year he will really shine. By all accounts, he's had his best camp ever (I know, I know, this is the time of year where everyone is a SB contender and having their best camps ever!!111) and has pretty much caught everything thrown his way. Time will tell, but I do think he's ready to accept more responsibility and up his production opposite Smith.

Some tweets on LaFell and Armanti this morning:

@Panthers 6m
Steve Smith says Armanti Edwards and Brandon LaFell are two guys that made a drastic improvement after putting in extra work this offseason.

@Panthers
LaFell says Armanti Edwards has been one of the best receivers in camp. "It's great to see him come into his own."

@jjones9
LaFell: I love all those guys (WRs), but Armanti has really been pushing me more than anyone else
 
C++ and some Java. (Of course, he didn't ask a thing about Java either.)

I intend to not fail the next time!

:jnc
I'm kinda really good at both of those languages. I'll echo what slay said about practice and add that in my mind the most important quality to have as a programmer is perseverance.

Programming is basically like living the buttfumble gif, except on the 40th time, instead of running into the ass you keep your feet and score a touchdown.
 

Godslay

Banned
What are your favorite languages?

I intend to try a bit of C# next
because I want to try programming for Windows Phone 8, don't laugh.

I'm laughably bad at programming in general at this point, though.

I use C# at work, so it's my favorite atm. Plus I love Linq and entity framework.

Really when it boils down to it, we are all laughably bad at programming. Just have to work everyday to get better. Elfforksu is right as well.
 

squicken

Member
LaFell has definitely been de facto the past two years, but I think this year he will really shine. By all accounts, he's had his best camp ever (I know, I know, this is the time of year where everyone is a SB contender and having their best camps ever!!111) and has pretty much caught everything thrown his way. Time will tell, but I do think he's ready to accept more responsibility and up his production opposite Smith.

Some tweets on LaFell and Armanti this morning:

My biggest concern with CAR is the coaching staff. Rivera playing Fox Ball cost them a couple of games last year, and if I was a fan wanting to read about year over year improvement, it would be about him. Not trolling. Just my observation of watching him coach
 

TheFatOne

Member
Well, the course was called Object Oriented Programming: Algorithms and Data Structures.

Alas, our professor must've forgotten about the algorithms part. I think 70% of the stuff I prepared for (search algorithms, traversing a graph, Huffman encoding etc.) and that was heavily featured in all previous tests didn't appear this time.

Pretty damn sure I failed. But I actually enjoyed this stuff and hope I'll do better next time.

I know the feeling. My last semester I had a data structures class I almost failed. I was just burnt out, and couldn't keep up with all the work. I'm starting to go over most of the stuff I struggled with though. Teacher had an absolutely brutal final for me. There were like 50-60 problems but 10 of those were worth 50% of the grade, and it was all shit I struggled with.
 

Bowser

Member
My biggest concern with CAR is the coaching staff. Rivera playing Fox Ball cost them a couple of games last year, and if I was a fan wanting to read about year over year improvement, it would be about him. Not trolling. Just my observation of watching him coach

It's not trolling, it's the truth. I wholeheartedly agree. I think Rivera can probably match any coach in the league Monday to Saturday, but come Sunday, he's consistently come up short. He's great in terms of player development and preparation, but he constantly undermines that development/prep with his gameday coaching. I hope that he himself can develop in that regard - this is his first head coaching gig at any level, and not everyone can come in and succeed without a few lumps. I think he's working on it, as evidenced by his gameday coaching in the last 6 games of the 2012 season (was more willing to take chances and be ballsy), but he needs to carry that type of decision making over to when there's actual pressure to succeed, not when playoffs hopes have vanished and no one's going to second guess going for it on 4th down when there's really nothing to lose. But yeah, he's definitely the overarching concern when it comes to the team's upside potential.

1) Coaching
2) Offensive Line (RG/RT and depth)
3) Secondary

Those are the three biggest question marks for the Panthers and will determine if we start slow and fire Rivera mid-season or go on a playoff run.
 
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