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NFL 2013 Week 1 |OT| - A new season dawns with champs vs chokes
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Our OLB's will make or break this team. Mark my words..
yankeehater
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Man you are bringing me down. The only thing I have to look forward to, outside of what is Chip going to do, is seeing the Pats finally stumble in the regular season.
Starphoenix
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Falcon's will be lucky if they even make the playoffs. And no to the Patriots.
DeaconKnowledge
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Texans have yet to prove they can beat good teams. Steelers were a paper tiger in 11 and the Rats were on their last legs last year. Personally I don't think they can, not while Kubiak is coach.
Bengals are just better. It's Pittsburgh's division as long as Ben is healthy for 14 games, though
Alligatorjandro
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Falcons will win the division with ease
Coldnoodle
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yankeehater
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Is there any team you think will be good this year?
DeaconKnowledge
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Bro I want the Dolphins to slaughter them too. I'm just being realistic.
I think the Texans will be good, don't get me wrong. I just think they were like the Steelers in the early 2000's - weak against powerhouse teams.
I can see your opinion but I don't totally agree. They were their own worst enemy last year. They started reading and believing their own hype and think about it: there was NO veteran leadership with experience in a playoff run to right them. I also still think schaub was injured an opinion that Smokey validated a couple days ago.
I firmly believe they did learn from it and Reed was brought in just for that reason and the two clowns (Barwin and Shawn Cody) responsible for the jackets and the stupid "On the Nose" segments on NFLN are no longer with the team.
yankeehater
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Week 1 is no time for reality. By week 8 I am sure reality will have beaten me down but I want to be optimistic now. Mike Wallace 1800 yards dammit!!!!!
Alligatorjandro
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I think the Dolphins will go 4-2 in the division, sweep the Bills and Jets and getting swept by the Pats.
Starphoenix
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Yeah, no. New Orleans is going to be a lot better this year and something is going to give with Carolina eventually. Falcons lucked out on a lot of close games last year. That won't happen against teams like San Francisco, Seattle (again), New England or Green Bay.
Alligatorjandro
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Not really sold on New Orleans. Their defense was terrible and I dont think they made enough changes.
The Artful Dodger
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Raiders will not be starting Menelik Watson, who stepped in to replace Veldheer at left tackle and was looking decent. We'll be starting Khalif Barnes (who played Guard) there, and Tony Pashos (Newly acquired freeagent) at Guard.
I'm not happy about this, but...it's the Raiders.
I'm not happy about this, but...it's the Raiders.
yankeehater
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Watching NFC Playbook and seeing all the 0 blitzes Rob Ryan called in the preseason seems very worrying. I am just not sure if they have the personal to play that super aggressive style.
RIPryor
DeaconKnowledge
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That clownshoes shit wasn't doing them any favors I agree. The thing is that grit and toughness that is required to beat elite teams usually comes from 2 places - the coach and QB. I don't think Kubiak has that killer instinct and Schoob...well..
As for Reed, Reed is not a leader. He's a whiner with immense talent. I'll be surprised if he plays 6 games including playoffs for the Texans this year.
Saints defense has always been shit. I don't see why it's a dealbreaker for them this year.
Payton being gone was detrimental to the offense, not defense.
Starphoenix
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Falcon's isn't much better. Both teams are glass cannons that rely on out gunning their opponents. Let's see how they hold up when Brady, Kaepernick, and Rodgers are able to keep up.
:jnc
That Cutler face. It's almost Animal Crossing like.
Coldplay pls
I just don't see Reed being ok with the sophomore hijinks. Im hoping Kubiaks lack of killer instinct, which I cant defend BTW, finally does show since he has been through the same challenges as the team. Rick Smith and Bob McNair made some offseason comments to the fact that QB's are evaluated based on their championships. A Comment aimed squarely at Schaubiak.
Personnel wise the Texans are more talented overall than any team in the league except the Niners.
yankeehater
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More then the Packers, Broncos, or Seahawks?
Why would you want to lose to the Falcons in the super bowl?
DeaconKnowledge
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That's what bugs me about the Texans. The team is stacked, particularly on offense. Yet they wilted in big games.
I think their first big test will be on Oct 06 against the Niners. Punch them in the mouth and it'll go a long way to proving they can make noise in the playoffs.
Starphoenix
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Seahawks are excused.
Texans have Watt, Cushing and Reed. Denver has Miller, who's suspended. Let's not even talk about Green Bay's defense.
Texans have Foster and Tate. Bronco's certainly don't have a running game, and Green Bay doesn't know how the Lacy experiment is going to wind up.
The only thing the Texan's lack is receiving core depth and an elite QB. That's all the other two have, except maybe an O-Line in Denver's case.
yankeehater
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They are going to lose to who ever they play in the SB so why not the Falcons. It has to be better then Eli getting the hat trick against them.
DeaconKnowledge
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Packers have no defense. Seahawks receivers leave a little to be desired.
Buckethead
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Texans?
Don't make me raff.
Don't make me raff.
yankeehater
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Packers are Broncos have Elite QB's and better WR's. Broncos have a great OL, and some good pieces on D. Seahawks have the best D in football, a really good OL, and a great rushing attack, plus Wilson was out of his mind the 2nd half of last year. Not saying the Texans dont have a lot of good players, they obviously do, but I definitely would take the Broncos roster over theirs, and the other 2 I would say are really close if in slightly better. I guess a lot depends on how Schaub plays this year if he is 100% healthy, and how does Foster/Tate do.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc
Which is a logical fallacy. Stop making Seahawks fans look like morons, cdy. We aren't 49ers fans.
TheLegendary
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We have defense! They're just resting
Mackenzie 92
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I think Watson might be out a few weeks from the way Lil Wiz was talking. Sucks, but at least Indy has a weak front 7.
Also you got your positions mixed up. Barnes is our RT, and Pashos is stepping in for him there. They were pretty decent bookends for the Jags a few years back, but yeah.. Pryor's gonna be running a lot.
I'm more concerned about our D and Sio Moore possibly being out, but it sounds like he's gonna play.
DeaconKnowledge
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If I had to rank a team based on how stacked it is for talent I would do it thusly:
1. Broncos
2. Niners
3. Texans.
If Montee Ball turns into a threat the Broncos have no weaknesses on offense. The defense (with Von) is good. Remains to be seen if Doom gone will affect them.
1. Broncos
2. Niners
3. Texans.
If Montee Ball turns into a threat the Broncos have no weaknesses on offense. The defense (with Von) is good. Remains to be seen if Doom gone will affect them.
slightconfuse
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i feel like the falcon always have a solid team. at least on offense.
They might not be S tier without Harvin, but it'd be a mistake to put them below B tier. Besides, elite WRs aren't what you base an offense on anyway, as the Lions demonstrate.
FrenchMovieTheme
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lololol
i already see what you are doing bruh. you want to discount obvious cheating as "not a big deal" because your own team has proven to be cheaters and you don't want people to call any success your team has into question. too late. it has been proven over and over and over and over and over again that the seahawks have a cheating system in place. sure, sometimes they'll get off on a ryan braun-ish bullshit technicality, but the word is out. where there's smoke there's fire! and with the seachickens the stink starts at the top and trickles down to each and every cheater on your squad!
accept what you are and that nothing you do will ever be legitimate until you stop the cheating. the patriots stopped (well, were forced to stop) their cheating ways and it has told us a lot about them: 0 championships since
heheheaha you actually believe the seahawks WRs are "S tier" with harvin?! harvin isn't even a top 20 WR in this league for the 6 games a year he is healthy. thumbs down bruh
Chopchop got his eyes fixed, so this is his breakout year as well.Tate gonna break out this year!
Not sure how I feel about Sidney rice though...
BaltimoreLarry
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Damn.
We got fuuuuuuuuucked up.
We got fuuuuuuuuucked up.
Rice was good last year. If he stays healthy we'll be good. Rice, Tate (breakout year), Baldwin (always steady), Kearse (breakout year), Stephen Williams (da gawd). I'm more concerned about TE. If Miller goes down we're kinda SOL, even though Willson has potential - he's still only a rookie. Gonna see a lot more 3 WR sets this season.
FrenchMovieTheme
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you don't have one receiver on your roster better than old ass boldin. that is sad
Harvin is better, Rice is about even if he stays healthy. Kearse will be better next season.
FrenchMovieTheme
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Harvin plays a max of 6 games a year, Sidney rice is trash and kearse is just another preseason hero that will fade into the abyss when the games count. Accept it!
Can't remember where I read it, but Russell lead the league in attempted passes from outside the pocket (26%). He also lead the league in scrambles with 50. As much as people try and convince me that he is just fine in the pocket, I'm not sure that's true. His height is something he and the staff have to manage. He did do well playing catchup in the playoffs, but I'm not sure he can be a volume passer
CAR has such a bad group of DBs. I think the front 7 can stop the run and contain Wilson, but I just see them giving up couple of big passes off play action. That is the noon game I'm most interested in seeing
CAR has such a bad group of DBs. I think the front 7 can stop the run and contain Wilson, but I just see them giving up couple of big passes off play action. That is the noon game I'm most interested in seeing
yankeehater
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Wilson had some great passes from the pocket last year and especially in the 2nd half of the playoff game against the Falcons. Surprised to see you doubting him.
We only need Harvin for 3 games, so we'll be alright. Rice's physical durability is trash, but he's a top-flight WR. He's been great when he had Favre and second-half Russell throwing to him. Kearse is a Husky so he's destined for greatness.
Elfforkusu
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It'll depend on how well Hyde/House plays, tbh. (I'm speculating they might try House inside in a pinch, more likely than not it'll be the rook)
Not expecting much in his first game, but he's got the talent to be a player.
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