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[Elfforkusu]

Then wasn't it Bill who was able to build a team around Cassell to still put an 'A-grade trash' QB in a position to win games?

It's always the same here on GAF. Never do the Patriots get credit for anything that they do.

thanks for proving the point of belichicks genius when he can make "grade A trash" win 11 games

What part of "Randy Moss" did you guys not read?

That Patriots team was at its peak, coming off the most disappointing ending to a season any NFL team has ever had, and on offense they had the greatest deep threat of all time. They were in a unique position to absorb the loss of a superstar QB and still contend for a Super Bowl. Instead, they missed the playoffs.

Suck Belicheck's dick for that season if you like, but his Super Bowl and AFC Champ teams are much more impressive.

And if having success with an awful QB is the criteria, Lovie Smith is even better. He took Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl!

 

[Sanjuro]

What part of "Randy Moss" did you guys not read?

That Patriots team was at its peak, coming off the most disappointing ending to a season any NFL team has ever had, and on offense they had the greatest deep threat of all time. They were in a unique position to absorb the loss of a superstar QB and still contend for a Super Bowl. Instead, they missed the playoffs.

Suck Belicheck's dick for that season if you like, but his Super Bowl and AFC Champ teams are much more impressive.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Nope.

Dude, did you watch him in KC?

 

[Tom Penny]

Dude, did you watch him in KC?

Pro Bowler.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Tuck rule. Cheats.

Go assault Santa.

 

[Sanjuro]

Dude, did you watch him in KC?

No, I'm not a Chiefs fan. I saw him in the Pro Bowl wearing a Chiefs helmet though.

Your Randy Moss argument is incredibly broken as well.

 

[Coldnoodle]

Go assault Santa.

:jnc

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

Go assault Santa.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Pro Bowler.

No, I'm not a Chiefs fan. I saw him in the Pro Bowl wearing a Chiefs helmet though.

:jnc

Ok, I'll admit I'd forgotten about that 2010 season. I think the stench of what followed washed it away. Maybe Cassel was a worthy backup! Maybe.

(many unworthy QBs players have made pro bowls. It's a popularity contest)

No, I'm not a Chiefs fan. I saw him in the Pro Bowl wearing a Chiefs helmet though.

Your Randy Moss argument is incredibly broken as well.

Prime Moss tilted the field. He made bad and mediocre QBs into good ones, and made good ones look like football gods. Also, stop making me compliment him.

 

[Sanjuro]

Prime Moss tilted the field. He made bad and mediocre QBs into good ones, and made good ones look like football gods. Also, stop making me compliment him.

Prime Moss!

2008 - 69 Receptions for 1008 Yards.

...wait...wait a minute.

2005 - 60 Receptions for 1005 Yards...that's Prime Moss!!!

OMG!

RORSCHACH!!!! YOU DID IT! Your team fucking did it! They won eleven games! Somebody get Rorschach OMG!

SOKA! GET HIM TOO!

RORS!! SOKA!

*clicks link*

ROR...

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I don't understand what this is all about. Greg got mad that espn isn't mean enough to the Patriots and the Packers suck.

 

[Buckethead]

Welp I'm not going out for the rest of the weekend.

Roads are Packers defense.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

What part of "Randy Moss" did you guys not read?

That Patriots team was at its peak, coming off the most disappointing ending to a season any NFL team has ever had, and on offense they had the greatest deep threat of all time. They were in a unique position to absorb the loss of a superstar QB and still contend for a Super Bowl. Instead, they missed the playoffs.

Suck Belicheck's dick for that season if you like, but his Super Bowl and AFC Champ teams are much more impressive.

And if having success with an awful QB is the criteria, Lovie Smith is even better. He took Rex Grossman to the Super Bowl!

Get the fuck out of here, I'm not "sucking his dick". Fucking fool.

Why do I even bother doing this? Who got Randy Moss out of Oakland? You think he walked into Foxboro, typed up a contract and shoved it under Bill his face?

The team was so good that they lost their QB and you still thought they should have won the Super Bowl, and are ridiculing them for not making the playoffs (despite going 11-5)? They why isn't Bill getting any credit for dealing with the situation, setting up his team depth, being prepared for pretty much everything?

I'm not talking about making a Super Bowl with a shit QB, I'm talking about having a team being great year in year out, dealing with everything that comes his way. Teams lose 1 or 2 players, via free agency or injury and the team falls of a cliff, where the Patriots and Bill have been able to compete at a high level no matter what.

But I'm done with you.

 

[Talon]

Welp I'm not going out for the rest of the weekend.

Roads are Packers defense.

Covered in white shit?

 

[Milchjon]

Good Guy Tom helping the fight against bullying.

"People still tease me about what I wear, but I don't listen to them!"

:jnc

 

[The Artful Dodger]

Why do I even bother doing this? Who got Randy Moss out of Oakland? You think he walked into Foxboro, typed up a contract and shoved it under Bill his face?

*sigh* Leave my franchise out of your pissing match..

 

[Grover Cleveland]

Charles Johnson was just added to the injury report with an illness (questionable).

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

Good Guy Tom helping the fight against bullying.

"People still tease me about what I wear, but I don't listen to them!"

:jnc

make sure you leave your ugg's outside your door tonight and tammy will come around to all the good boys and girls and leave candy.

 

[Goro Majima]

You guys are starting to act like this is NBA-GAF.

Relax!

It'll be Bronocs vs. Saints/Seahawks anyway.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Prime Moss!

2008 - 69 Receptions for 1008 Yards.

...wait...wait a minute.

2005 - 60 Receptions for 1005 Yards...that's Prime Moss!!!

Yes, compare disinterested "team cancer" Moss in Oakland to the model citizen he was under Brady and Belicheck. (they absolutely deserve credit for getting him to try hard in NE, BTW. That's obvious, but apparently if I don't say it I'm insulting the Pats.) Interesting that the stats worked out so similar with Cassel throwing to him!

Get the fuck out of here, I'm not "sucking his dick". Fucking fool.

Why do I even bother doing this? Who got Randy Moss out of Oakland? You think he walked into Foxboro, typed up a contract and shoved it under Bill his face?

The team was so good that they lost their QB and you still thought they should have won the Super Bowl, and are ridiculing them for not making the playoffs (despite going 11-5)? They why isn't Bill getting any credit for dealing with the situation, setting up his team depth, being prepared for pretty much everything?

I'm not talking about making a Super Bowl with a shit QB, I'm talking about having a team being great year in year out, dealing with everything that comes his way. Teams lose 1 or 2 players, via free agency or injury and the team falls of a cliff, where the Patriots and Bill have been able to compete at a high level no matter what.

But I'm done with you.

1) I didn't say the Pats should've won the Super Bowl that year, only that they had a rather unique chance to contend

2) Could say the same for the Colts before 2011. So the clock hasn't hit midnight for Belicheck yet. So what? He's been a great coach regardless. It isn't necessary to christen him the GOAT to say he's a great coach. But the implication is that 2008 happened purely by his greatness, and that 2008 is the worst case scenario, that the Pats will never falter. That's laughable.

 

[Butts-a-plenty]

You guys are starting to act like this is NBA-GAF.

Relax!

It'll be Bronocs vs. Saints/Seahawks anyway.

lets go broncos!

 

[Sanjuro]

Yes, compare disinterested "team cancer" Moss in Oakland to the model citizen he was under Brady and Belicheck. Interesting that the stats worked out so similar with Cassel throwing to him!

...now your argument is saying thanks to Belichick, Randy Moss and Cassel has a great season.

Glad I could convince you!

 

[Elfforkusu]

...now your argument is saying thanks to Belichick, Randy Moss and Cassel has a great season.

Glad I could convince you!

Belicheck has always been a great coach. I imagine he wasn't uniquely qualified in getting Moss to try hard (I think Brady had more to do with it tbh), but we'll never know! Maybe you're right. Maybe only Bill Belicheck was capable of coaxing the 2008 Pats from mediocrity to irrelevant success.

Just imagine what he could've done if he still had the cameras! Matt Cassel, Super Bowl MVP?

 

[Milchjon]

Since apparently no one's skills are responsible for the Pats' succes, but they still kept winning, I'm just gonna go with my favorite theory that it was all set up by the league (maybe even the government!) purely because of 9/11 and their team name.

 

[Greg]

Welp I'm not going out for the rest of the weekend.

Roads are Packers defense.

my uncle cancelled ping pong because of the roads

 

[Elfforkusu]

Since apparently no one's skills are responsible for the Pats' succes, but they still kept winning, I'm just gonna go with my favorite theory that it was all set up by the league (maybe even the government!) purely because of 9/11 and their team name.

There are people in the StL area who told me this after that 2001 super bowl.

Turned out to be spy cameras. As always, reality is stranger than fiction.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

Belicheck has always been a great coach. I imagine he wasn't uniquely qualified in getting Moss to try hard (I think Brady had more to do with it tbh), but we'll never know! Maybe you're right. Maybe only Bill Belicheck was capable of coaxing the 2008 Pats from mediocrity to irrelevant success.

Just imagine what he could've done if he still had the cameras! Matt Cassel, Super Bowl MVP?

Ah yes, when people are truly clueless and have nothing left to say about the Pats they can always pull out the old 'Spygate'-reference.

Good job, you went full circle.

 

[Sanjuro]

Belicheck has always been a great coach. I imagine he wasn't uniquely qualified in getting Moss to try hard (I think Brady had more to do with it tbh), but we'll never know! Maybe you're right. Maybe only Bill Belicheck was capable of coaxing the 2008 Pats from mediocrity to irrelevant success.

Just imagine what he could've done if he still had the cameras! Matt Cassel, Super Bowl MVP?

I can only imagine my Packers using Belichick and cameras! I'd be rich.

 

[Elfforkusu]

Covered in white shit?

I don't see how this word has anything to do with the Packers defense.

Unless maybe you were saying something like "we covered the spread because we were playing against the Packers defense".

I can only imagine my Packers using Belichick and cameras! I'd be rich.

Probably would have a few more trophies in the case.

 

[BigAT]

I feel like I need a god damn cheat sheet to read this thread these days. Whose alt is whose?

 

[Milchjon]

I feel like I need a god damn cheat sheet to read this thread these days. Whose alt is whose?

I'm eznark.

 

[Elfforkusu]

I feel like I need a god damn cheat sheet to read this thread these days. Whose alt is whose?

I imagine they're all chan.

I'm eznark.

But I'm eznark!

 

[Grover Cleveland]

I feel like I need a god damn cheat sheet to read this thread these days. Whose alt is whose?

When in doubt, it's chan

 

[jakncoke]

Im a little bit of you all

 

[Himynameischris]

Good Guy Tom helping the fight against bullying.

"People still tease me about what I wear, but I don't listen to them!"

:jnc

If he had been on the Dolphins they would have made him quit years ago lol

 

[Greg]

Im a little bit of you all

:jnc

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Im actually Greg.

 

[MRSA]

We're all friends.

 

[Bread]

is the real chan ever coming back?

 

[Milchjon]

is the real chan ever coming back?

Not officially.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

I just saw Frozen with my kids, which felt like Tangled 2. My three year old even said " we've seen this before". I will say the preview for The Lego Movie looked pretty intriguing.

Also, there's a movie coming out starring the fucking Coca Cola Polar Bears?

 

[MRSA]

Not officially.

Who to resurrect?

Snes
Lunchbox
Chan
Blue Oyster

 

[chuckddd]

When in doubt, it's chan

Unless it's a Pats fan. Then it's lunchbox.

 

[Greg]

Im actually Greg.

post your dunk video then, impostor!

 

[Milchjon]

Who to resurrect?

Snes
Lunchbox
Chan
Blue Oyster

Lunchbox. For fighting the good fight.

And who the fuck is blue oyster?

 

[Buckethead]

Anyone listen to this new Beyonce album?

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Unless it's a Pats fan. Then it's lunchbox.

At least he stays loyal

 

[Alligatorjandro]

If I ever made an alt, it would be named Alligatorcarlos or something.

 

[Eleuin]

Anyone listen to this new Beyonce album?

only watched a few of the videos

I'd let her buy me all the diners

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Deebo comes back to Heinz Field tomorrow.

I know he's washed up and playing for a division rival, but man is he awesome. Just watched this highlight reel (excuse the quality) - In his prime he was the most dominant, scariest linebacker in the NFL.