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NFL 2013 Week 8 |OT| - Hail To The Chiefs

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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
Farooq said:
That is because Romo can't just lob a pass into three defenders and have Calvin out jump them to catch the ball. Stafford without Johnson is just an average QB.
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Bullshit. This argument is tired and old and factually incorrect if you look at Staffords stats the last 2 1/2 seasons. Stafford threw the ball exactly where it needed to go. You had three guys who could've picked it off yet he threw it exactly into Megatrons' hands.

This argument can also be applied to Tom Brady's current team. Its amazing having a WR like Megatron but don't take credit from the guy throwing the ball.

The best season I've ever seen a QB play was Tom Bradys' 18-1 season where he had Randy Moss. Did Brady chuck it up to Moss a lot? Sure, why the hell wouldn't you? When you have a weapon like Megatron or Randy Moss in his prime you take advantage. But a WR is only as good as the QB throwing him the ball, and anyone questioning Matthew Staffords' skill and knowledge of the QB position is either trolling or doesn't know shit about football.

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Stafford is good. I am kidding.
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Damnit Farooq, that was good. I just felt the need to defend my QB.

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Farooq

Banned
Kastrioti said:
Bullshit. This argument is tired and old and factually incorrect if you look at Staffords stats the last 2 1/2 seasons. Stafford threw the ball exactly where it needed to go. You had three guys who could've picked it off yet he threw it exactly into Megatrons' hands.

This argument can also be applied to Tom Brady's current team. Its amazing having a WR like Megatron but don't take credit from the guy throwing the ball.

The best season I've ever seen a QB play was Tom Bradys' 18-1 season where he had Randy Moss. Did Brady chuck it up to Moss a lot? Sure, why the hell wouldn't you? When you have a weapon like Megatron or Randy Moss in his prime you take advantage. But a WR is only as good as the QB throwing him the ball, and anyone questioning Matthew Staffords' skill and knowledge of the QB position is either trolling or doesn't know shit about football.
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I should have edited my post sooner. I agree, a wide receivers talent cannot be properly utilized unless he has a good quarterback. I was just talking shit.
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i don't really care too much about stats but what is staffords record against teams who are better than .500?
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Not sure, nor does it matter. We beat the Bears, Redskins and tough rivalry games against the Vikings and Browns. We play who is on our schedule and I know we can beat any team in the league if everything is clicking.

All I know is you're only 1 game ahead of us in the NFC Playoff picture so its not like the Niners are better than the Lions at this point.

See you in the playoffs.
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Farooq said:
Where would you get that information? Without going through every season on pro football reference.
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Wait until some sucker writes an article about it. Stafford is 1-23 (.042) against teams who finished the season with a winning record.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme

Member
Kastrioti said:
Not sure, nor does it matter. We beat the Bears, Redskins and tough rivalry games against the Vikings and Browns. We play who is on our schedule and I know we can beat any team in the league if everything is clicking.

All I know is you're only 1 game ahead of us in the NFC Playoff picture so its not like the Niners are better than the Lions at this point.

See you in the playoffs.
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All I know is you're only 1 game ahead of us in the NFC Playoff picture so its not like the Niners are better than the Lions at this point.
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you're only 1 game ahead of us
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its not like the Niners are better than the Lions at this point
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you're only 1 game ahead of us
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hmmm...

to your other point, any team can beat any other team in the league when they're clicking. i don't fear the lions because your defense is awful and our defense will prevent your offense from "clicking". but now it looks like a new challenger approaches for the #6 seed... the panthers!
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
chuckddd said:
Wait until some sucker writes an article about it. Stafford is 1-23 (.042) against teams who finished the season with a winning record.
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You're including games after he took over the worst team in NFL history at 21 years, and are including games where he was hurt yet still got credit for those losses for whatever reason.

I'll say this though the Lions and Steelers have both made the playoffs only one time since 2011.

The Lions lost a close game in New Orleans against Drew Brees.

The Steelers lost to Tim Tebow.

If I'm a stock broker I'm investing stocks in a young Lions teams, and trying to sell my Steeler stocks with your dinosaur rapist QB, and terrible offense.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme

Member
Kastrioti said:
You're including games after he took over the worst team in NFL history at 21 years, and are including games where he was hurt yet still got credit for those losses for whatever reason.

I'll say this though the Lions and Steelers have both made the playoffs only one time since 2011.

The Lions lost a close game in New Orleans against Drew Brees.

The Steelers lost to Tim Tebow.

If I'm a stock broker I'm investing stocks in a young Lions teams, and trying to sell my Steeler stocks with your dinosaur rapist QB, and terrible offense.
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i google imaged searched dinosaur rapist and i wish i didn't because i came up with these:

http://www.wackbag.com/threads/sex-fantasies-about-dinosaurs-now-a-literary-subgenre.153545/

tyrannoporn.jpg


triceraporn.jpg
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
:jnc We went from comparing Romo and Stafford 3rd down stats to dinosaur porn. Just another Friday night on NFLGAF.

See you on Sunday, Farooq, Svatoslav and the rest of Cowboys GAF.
 
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Sviatoslav

Member
Kastrioti said:
:jnc We went from comparing Romo and Stafford 3rd down stats to dinosaur porn. Just another Friday night on NFLGAF.

See you on Sunday, Farooq, Svatoslav and the rest of Cowboys GAF.
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Better to talk about Romo's 3rd down passing than his 4th quarter performance.

Lions are one of the few teams I find hard to hate thanks to their habitual ineptitude. You guys don't have Romo's BFF anymore (Bobby Carpenter) either so no more free picks that start a second half comeback!
 
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squicken

Member
chuckddd said:
Wait until some sucker writes an article about it. Stafford is 1-23 (.042) against teams who finished the season with a winning record.
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Easy to find w/PFR's Game Log tool

DAL is 23-41 in games against teams that finished the year over .500 since Romo joined the team. I'm sure there are a few backup starts there but it's better than Stafford for sure

http://www.pro-football-reference.c...comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=game_date#stats::none

e: Bradford 4-12-1
Cam 3--12
Dalton 4-8
RG3 3-3
Luck 3-3
Tanne 2-5
Weeden 1-7
Russ 5-1
Kap 2-1
Rodgers 18-18
Ryan 11-10
Sanchez 7-16
 
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Trasher

Member
Lions have played in one of the toughest divisions of late and have also had some of the toughest ranked schedules as well. Their losses don't necessarily reflect Stafford and his play either. We've had one of the worst defenses for a very long time. People always associate losses with QBs and not with defenses. Can't just look at a QBs record alone.
 
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Drakeon

Member
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
 
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AngmarsKing701

Member
Kastrioti said:
Not sure, nor does it matter. We beat the Bears, Redskins and tough rivalry games against the Vikings and Browns. We play who is on our schedule and I know we can beat any team in the league if everything is clicking.

All I know is you're only 1 game ahead of us in the NFC Playoff picture so its not like the Niners are better than the Lions at this point.

See you in the playoffs.
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:kas :jnc

I will watch Handshake Bowl II
 
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The_Darkest_Red

Member
squicken said:
I like Bedard but sometimes I wonder

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Tannehill definitely made some bad decisions at times in the Bills game but he was alright overall. He led the team to three TD drives which is at least better than what you'd expect after reading that blurb from Bedard. Thanks for posting that gif though, that's exactly what I'm talking about with Clabo. He doesn't even get in the way on that play! The late sack by Williams that caused a Tanne fumble was the same way.

The weird thing is the pass pro was pretty solid until the fourth. Is that an indication of age and/or conditioning being an issue?
 
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ShaneB

Member
Drakeon said:
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
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Grats!
 
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squicken

Member
The_Darkest_Red said:
Thanks for posting that gif though, that's exactly what I'm talking about with Clabo. He doesn't even get in the way on that play! The late sack by Williams that caused a Tanne fumble was the same way.

?
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Maybe others can chime in, but look at both the center and Clabo immediately slide right at the snap. I wonder if the guard didn't get the assignment and allowed that hole between he and Clabo for Williams to just dart through

I got that from Football Outsiders, and they also put it on Clabo, but the way the center moves sure seems like they were sliding their protection
 
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The_Darkest_Red

Member
squicken said:
Maybe others can chime in, but look at both the center and Clabo immediately slide right at the snap. I wonder if the guard didn't get the assignment and allowed that hole between he and Clabo for Williams to just dart through

I got that from Football Outsiders, and they also put it on Clabo, but the way the center moves sure seems like they were sliding their protection
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Well Jerry is trash as well so it wouldn't surprise me.
 
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squicken

Member
Drakeon said:
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
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Congrats, but not eating Taco Bell isn't a good thing. Double Decker tacos are quality
 
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bionic77

Member
Kastrioti said:
You're including games after he took over the worst team in NFL history at 21 years, and are including games where he was hurt yet still got credit for those losses for whatever reason.

I'll say this though the Lions and Steelers have both made the playoffs only one time since 2011.

The Lions lost a close game in New Orleans against Drew Brees.

The Steelers lost to Tim Tebow.

If I'm a stock broker I'm investing stocks in a young Lions teams, and trying to sell my Steeler stocks with your dinosaur rapist QB, and terrible offense.
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Even if Ben never wins another game his legacy as a winner is secure. If Fatfords career ended today it would just be another loser qb for another loser franchise.

No one other than a crazed Lion fan would have any faith in the Lions qb or their team.
 
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Greg

Member
Drakeon said:
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
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that's so awesome
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Drakeon said:
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
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Congrats.
 
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Grover Cleveland

Member
More people watched Garbage Bowl (Vikes-Giants) than World Series Game 1

And that's Cards-Sox, two high-profile teams.

Baseball is truly dead in this country smh

Drakeon said:
NFLGaf, I have to tell someone, I just won a PS4 from the taco bell prize giveaway (the best part is I didn't have to eat at Taco Bell to win, won from some codes I got by sending in Postcards). So hyped! Now I need to find games to get on day 1 besides Killzone.
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Lord Fatman has blessed you good sir.
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Grover Cleveland said:
More people watched Garbage Bowl (Vikes-Giants) than World Series Game 1

And that's Cards-Sox, two high-profile teams.

Baseball is truly dead in this country smh
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Game 2 of the Cardinals/Red Sox World Series drew a 9.5 overnight rating on FOX Thursday night, up 8% from Tigers/Giants Game 2 last year (8.8), but down 5% from Rangers/Cardinals Game 2 in 2011 (10.0).

The 9.5 is the third-lowest overnight ever for Game 2 of the World Series, ahead of only last year and Phillies/Rays in 2008 (9.2). In addition, the 9.5 is the fifth-worst for any World Series game that did not take place on a Saturday night, ahead of only Games 1 and 2 of Tigers/Giants last year, Game 2 of Phillies/Rays in 2008, and Game 1 of this year’s series on Wednesday (9.4).
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The good news is that I'm guessing the scintillating TNF game probably drew in the 2's.
 
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Tenumi

Banned
Today I learned dinosaur porn exists. Wish I didn't learn that. How exactly does a Triceratops "ravish" someone?

Actually, don't answer that.

So... uh... how about that Pro Bowl Voting?
 
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squicken

Member
I know I am a homer but Manziel will go in the first round if he is clean medically and off field. Arm strength and accuracy just fine
 
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squicken

Member
The_Darkest_Red said:
Definitely. There is no way every team would pass him up in round one.

He's looking sharp today other than the shoulder nagging him.
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Yeah it is not good either way. Either being a drama queen or he injured. Mike Evans I can't figure out as a pro. He's not ideally fast for a WR but seems so dominant physically
 
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