FrenchMovieTheme
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Did someone try to legally hit Harper? They'll be hearin from mama Rodgers if so!
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NFL 2013 Week 8 |OT| - Hail To The Chiefs
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Did someone try to legally hit Harper? They'll be hearin from mama Rodgers if so!
Thinking about the Eagles Giants more and I think Chip and Co. have to go back to a full run game with an injured Vick starting.
Line up with 2 TEs and 2 RB sets. Get Bryce Brown back involved. McCoy gets 25-30 carries even if he isn't cracking the big ones, Brown gets 5-10, and even Polk gets involved. Why we don't run more i-form sets with Casey at FB baffles me. Some of the best plays both Vick and Foles have made have been out of play action off of those big packages.
Limit Vick to 20-25 throws. All these TEs and backs have to be the focal point this week.
Casey has not been used at all. Ertz has increased his playing time each week but hasn't been targeted much.
Also on the Vikings:
I was at the game last night. Never seen such a terrible game ever. Both sides looked bad. But of course Freeman was just awful. I don't get it. Who is making the decisions in Minn? Freeman has been there less than 2 weeks and he starts and throws 50 times? I get they loaded the box, but EVERY TEAM does that against the Minn Petersons. You don't run him just 13 times in a very close game when you have the best RB in the game.
Frazier is def gone. There is a disconnect between him and what the GM and owner want to do. The year they picked up McNabb I remember hearing the FO wanted Thigpen. Fraizer got his wish. And while McNabb was bad himself, I don't think he was this bad. Ponder or Freeman bad. Ponder they had to play because they wasted a pick on him. Cassel never made any sense even as a backup. And Freeman might be your guy down the road but how in the world do you throw him out there in less than 14 days to throw 50 times?
Line up with 2 TEs and 2 RB sets. Get Bryce Brown back involved. McCoy gets 25-30 carries even if he isn't cracking the big ones, Brown gets 5-10, and even Polk gets involved. Why we don't run more i-form sets with Casey at FB baffles me. Some of the best plays both Vick and Foles have made have been out of play action off of those big packages.
Limit Vick to 20-25 throws. All these TEs and backs have to be the focal point this week.
Casey has not been used at all. Ertz has increased his playing time each week but hasn't been targeted much.
Also on the Vikings:
I was at the game last night. Never seen such a terrible game ever. Both sides looked bad. But of course Freeman was just awful. I don't get it. Who is making the decisions in Minn? Freeman has been there less than 2 weeks and he starts and throws 50 times? I get they loaded the box, but EVERY TEAM does that against the Minn Petersons. You don't run him just 13 times in a very close game when you have the best RB in the game.
Frazier is def gone. There is a disconnect between him and what the GM and owner want to do. The year they picked up McNabb I remember hearing the FO wanted Thigpen. Fraizer got his wish. And while McNabb was bad himself, I don't think he was this bad. Ponder or Freeman bad. Ponder they had to play because they wasted a pick on him. Cassel never made any sense even as a backup. And Freeman might be your guy down the road but how in the world do you throw him out there in less than 14 days to throw 50 times?
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You seem upset. Is Harbaugh crying about someone touching little orphan Kappy at the mesh point again?
Yea, Grigson really has nothing to work with trade wise. I don't think we can out bid anyone at this point.
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So your saying Luck only chucks up the deep ball to Reggie Wayne? I`ve heard this argument elsewhere....
So Dutch can't go? That seems like bullshit
Have you heard the part where Luck has made it to the playoffs in every season he's played?
Percy Harvin is back, Breno is expected to be back this week also, and Okung will be back a couple weeks from now. The rich get richer.
As a fan, it's kinda weird to go from "being happy your team won one week, and being appreciative the next, and appreciating the small improvements that the team makes" to "expecting a win, and getting pissed if you don't win". I think that has to do with the fact that the Hawks made such a huge jump from 2010-2012 to 2012-2013.
I'm such a tortured Seattle sports fan... :/
As a fan, it's kinda weird to go from "being happy your team won one week, and being appreciative the next, and appreciating the small improvements that the team makes" to "expecting a win, and getting pissed if you don't win". I think that has to do with the fact that the Hawks made such a huge jump from 2010-2012 to 2012-2013.
I'm such a tortured Seattle sports fan... :/
Touche 1/1. Alabama could`ve made the AFC playoffs last year.
yankeehater
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I thought that Casey hurt his shoulder and that was why he didnt play the last 2 weeks? Not like they were using him anyways. I really want to see the 3 TE sets that we saw in the preseason, or lining Lane out wide like they did against the Skins. The offense has been great so far, for the most part, but if Vick is hurt they are going to have to get creative this week.
So you're saying Alabama would have beaten the Lions last year?
DUFFMCWALIN
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No they couldn't. This wet dream of college teams beating NFL teams needs to fucking die right now. It would never happen. Ever.
Well, the only reason that Breno might get the starting job back is because Bowie is still playing a bit like a rookie. Otherwise I'd be glad to see him gone.
At least Mike Rob is around to help block!
He's just confused because the Lions have been a college level team for so long.
Wouldn't shock me to see Colts pursue Maclin this off season. Colts GM comes from Philly FO and Maclin when healthy is a really good WR.
Don't know what he can command in the open market due to his injury. Hope Eagles re sign him no matter what.
They need to run the ball 50+ times this week. Rams are awful. Get Turbin and Michael some work. No need to throw the ball 30 times and have Russell dropping back over and over and getting him killed.
Exactly, jaguars would handily beat any college team, wouldn't even be a contest.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Florida State would beat Jacksonville. They got a way better QB.
yankeehater
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Please please just stop. Do not even go down this ridiculous path. Luck is good and Stafford is bad, its just the way it is.
Well we beat you guys last year so its an interesting question to ask.
I`m being facetious. Although I honestly think they`d put up a fight against the Jags or the 2008, 0 and 16 Lions.
YES. I was hoping we'd see more of him during the Jags game, but this should hopefully be a great opportunity for him to show off his moves!
Nothing we could do. Titus Young was hopped up on 3 different kinds of meth and was basically Bane on Venom. Untacklable.
DeaconKnowledge
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It's hard to find things to gif in this game. It's mostly just line play and running backs.
This was the onside kick that Harbaugh called in the 4th quarter. It was a surprise (even the production crew was fooled, you barely saw the kick). Fortunately Stevenson Sylvester (#55) Cut from the team in training camp and brought back 2 weeks ago, did. He smashes Tucker and loosens the ball enough for Williams (#98) to pick it up.
As for the call itself, I thought it was a good one. Ravens/Steelers is a rivalry that is often decided by 3 points (in fact in the last 10 meetings, 8 of the games were decided by 3 points) so whoever has the ball last tends to win. All possessions come at a premium as a result, and the Rats were trailing. They needed to shake shit up.. Fortunately the Steelers were ready for it.
I dunno, man, with that game last night, I'm pretty sure the Jags, Giants, or Vikings would fall to some college team.
It seems like you wouldn't even need a proper defense when the offense goes three and out on its own.
NihonTiger90
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Well, looks like Fauria Future is happening. Lions cut Scheffler today to sign a OT I've never heard of in my life.
yankeehater
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You would still need a college team that could hold up against the Vikings running game. They threw 50 times because the Giants were stacking the box to stop the run. I bet the Vikings can run for 1st downs all night against any college team, so Freeman's lack of accuracy wouldnt even play into them game. That also doesnt even take into account that the Vikings defense would destroy pretty much any college offensive line. They would be forcing turnovers and giving their offense a short field to work with all game.
DUFFMCWALIN
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A nfl defense would tear a college offense apart. Every NFL team has the best, while a college team has walk ons, kids still growing and getting stronger, etc. They won't hit as hard, run as fast, or be as skilled as a collective compared even to the Jaguars. Only like 5%-10% make it to the NFL. A NFL defense would choke on college offense out so quickly. Field position would be a nightmare for a college team. What offensive line (comprised of 20 years old) is going to step up against the front 7 of a NFL team? Plus most college QBs seem to float most of their god damn throws because defenses in college suck so many balls. Any secondary would ball hawk the fuck out of them. The strength, speed, talent, and game planning would ensure that a college team will never be on the same page, and I don't give a shit how good Alabama thinks they are.
Godspeed Scheffler. He had a great season for us in our 2011 Playoff season and I always liked him when he played in Denver with Jay Cutler.
IIRC they cut him because he had his 4th concussion a couple weeks ago so it was time to hang up the cleats.
Before anyone rips me for celebrating this, I know it's a dumb metric, and one that we all always make fun of since it's almost always ordered top-to-bottom from best record to worst. I know it has zero implications, is never official, and usually next to no real research put into it.
But, I have to say, I have waited SO LONG to see the Chiefs at the top of the ESPN Power Rankings. Last time we were there was in 2003, and that ended in sadness (wish P. Holmes had got another ring that year). Such a great time to be a fan. I cannot wait to play Denver, even if we get our shit pushed in. Fun times are ahead
GO CHIEFS!!!
But, I have to say, I have waited SO LONG to see the Chiefs at the top of the ESPN Power Rankings. Last time we were there was in 2003, and that ended in sadness (wish P. Holmes had got another ring that year). Such a great time to be a fan. I cannot wait to play Denver, even if we get our shit pushed in. Fun times are ahead
GO CHIEFS!!!
And yet they played the Broncos close for 3 quarters. Give me a break.
FrenchMovieTheme
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I am never mad at the packers. I hope to god we meet them in the playoffs for another easy victory. Wishing you guys nothin but the best
It is dumb but every fan has paid too much attention to it at some point. It seems really important when your team is on the rise, but eventually nothing seems to matter unless you win it all.Before anyone rips me for celebrating this, I know it's a dumb metric, and one that we all always make fun of since it's almost always ordered top-to-bottom from best record to worst. I know it has zero implications, is never official, and usually next to no real research put into it.
But, I have to say, I have waited SO LONG to see the Chiefs at the top of the ESPN Power Rankings. Last time we were there was in 2003, and that ended in sadness (wish P. Holmes had got another ring that year). Such a great time to be a fan. I cannot wait to play Denver, even if we get our shit pushed in. Fun times are ahead
GO CHIEFS!!!
Still, your average journeyman NFL player was in the top 2 or 3 players on their college team (unless they went to one of the perennial powers). But even Alabama and Co. only have 10 or so future NFL players on their roster at any particular time.
Jags would destroy the best team college football could assemble, and it wouldn't even be close.
Let's stop being silly.
Hm, I don't necessarily agree with that. At that point you're saying that the Jaguars would destroy like 2-3 years worth of first round picks. I think that's a way more interesting discussion anyway.
I know
Last time we went to the playoffs with even a decent hope, the Ravens made us their bitches. Hoping this year we'll at least make it past the Wildcard game. I have no delusions we'll make it to the SB or win it, we just don't have the offense (passing, anyway). But it would be a great foundation for Reid and Co. to build off of.
Those first round picks are only as good as the support structure around them. Really only once in a generation players in relatively autonomous positions can find success regardless of the talent level of the team that drafted them.
Once you remove that context, you have a bunch of athletes who are the best at their level playing against men who are acclimated to a measurably faster and stronger level of play.