Grover Cleveland
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I maintain that the lasting moment of today should be The Joe Webb Experience making a cameo appearance on special teams.
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NFL 2014 Divisional |OT| Restore The Roar
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Does Russel Wilson not get enough credit for the things he does, i.e. scrambles, accurate throws, usually smart decisions overall? Or does NFL GAF think he's just part of a system that best suits his ability?
Just asking because my friend and I are having a pretty big arguement over this (we're drinking alot of wine). He believes Wilson is just a product of his system while I say its bullshit. Wilson is legit. He's really fucking good.
I told him put Cam Newton (whom I'm a big fan of) on the Sea Hawks and he wouldn't come close to being the QB Russ is. Give me your wisdom GAF.
Just asking because my friend and I are having a pretty big arguement over this (we're drinking alot of wine). He believes Wilson is just a product of his system while I say its bullshit. Wilson is legit. He's really fucking good.
I told him put Cam Newton (whom I'm a big fan of) on the Sea Hawks and he wouldn't come close to being the QB Russ is. Give me your wisdom GAF.
Purple Cheeto
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They tried to replace him. They traded Derek Lowe an Jason Varitek for Heathcliff Slocumb (one of the worst trades in baseball history), they also traded Jose Cruz Jr (their top prospect and a guy who looked like an above average left fielder at worst) for Paul Spoljaric and Edwin Hurtado.
Also Ayala was a closer for awhile. When you only pitch 1 inning at a time its pretty easy for your ERA and loss total to get inflated.
Acrylic7
Member
Cam gets on my fucking nerves.
Lets throw the ball when we need to run and run the ball when we need to throw!
Hey everyone look at my useless Read option shit!
Ok, all we need is this first down. We are dominant in running today; 5 yards from the first down in the end-zone well hmmmm... let me throw the ball.
Guy makes me want to rip my fucking hair out.
Im not even going to give credit to Seahawks defense because every pick was a bad throw by Cam and easy for a high school player to pick off.
I thought I was looking at Jake Delhomme
Lets throw the ball when we need to run and run the ball when we need to throw!
Hey everyone look at my useless Read option shit!
Ok, all we need is this first down. We are dominant in running today; 5 yards from the first down in the end-zone well hmmmm... let me throw the ball.
Guy makes me want to rip my fucking hair out.
Im not even going to give credit to Seahawks defense because every pick was a bad throw by Cam and easy for a high school player to pick off.
I thought I was looking at Jake Delhomme
massivekettle
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Wilson is not a great QB, he's a good, reliable QB. He belongs in that second bucket, the kind that can occasionally put the team on their back. The first bucket is the type of QB that is integral to the team's success (Luck, Brady, etc.)
You are kidding yourself if you believe that this team needs Wilson to win. They only need him not to turn the ball over and let the running game and defense do their jobs, which he has done well to be honest.
But everytime an opponent managed to beat that vaunted Seattle D (Dallas, KC, San Diego, etc.), Seattle lost. Coincidence? I think not. Seattle's key to success goes through their defense first.
Russell is a very mature, likable and smart QB, but he's not a guy that's going to pull off miracles day in day out.
He's a good QB, but not a $20m QB. He hasn't reached Flacco's highs in the playoffs and hasn't really performed well enough in regular season to warrant that kind of money. Certainly not whilst the defense Seattle has is playing top notch and arguably is one of the best of all time.
The only things Russell has over Kaerpernick is accuracy and decision-making, but that can easily be fixed with good coaching, mentorship and a drama-free environment. Kaepernick is currently working with Kurt Warner to improve his mechanics - that will surely pay dividends.
Grover Cleveland
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Team Alucard
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Wilson definitely doesn't get enough credit. He's an excellent QB. However, I also really like Cam and think he's a very good player who has simply had the misfortune of being surrounded by garbage for his entire career to this point.
Quite frankly I would take either of them over Luck who I feel is the most overrated player in the NFL by a tremendous margin.
They've already resigned much of their core players long term
They can keep rolling with no names at WR, TE & CB
You get all the random fairweathers with their inane drive by shit posts, ugh.
All right Rando you can go to the "other" thread
T-Jack have great arm and average QB but he holds the ball too long. I remember it pretty well. Hasselbeck was good but inconsistent as always after 2005/2006. Russell Wilson is our man. It's not like we're blind. We don't need "pocket passer" to carry us. Russell Wilson doesn't need to be pocket passer. He is one of great mobile qb since Micheal Vick. I can't afford to see Russell going to other team because I don't know if we can draft a gem like that.
NFL-GAF at its finest. Shoo them away to the offseason, Rando. It's now your noble right.
Dude, we are the only club with a top five defense and offense. The team has gotton better both on D and in the run game since the last meeting against tne colt and Patriots. We can still win.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I wish the Jets had a QB as good as Cam.
Maybe some day.
Maybe some day.
Say what in bold!?
Ok here is something I don't understand about the Mariners in late 90s/2000s: why did they let Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey and A-Rod all go? Why did they not keep them long enough for Ichiro to also come aboard?
Did they just decide to rebuild or something? Could they not afford it? Would they still have been able to keep them all while also getting Ichiro?
Russ is the real deal. He's been successful every year he's been in the league.
me too. Draft of 2012 was great year for QBs.
He is uglier than Peyton and throws more interceptions.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I enjoy football
Starphoenix
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I just don't have faith in this team. I've seen them choke so much that I'm continually in this state of lowered expectations like those emo GAFfers on gaming side who get all pathetic before E3.
Acrylic7
Member
Cam Newton is not calling the plays.
Please re-direct your anger at this gentleman
Pantehrs are my team and all but boo to both of them.
you made me google nepotism. I feel stupid.
lybertyboy
Thinks the Evil Empire is just misunderstood.
Carolina will never have consistent success as long as Cam continues to throw off of his back foot.
I was at the game tonight. Panther O line was on point, and the defense held up as long as they could. Biggest thing that stood out to me was this: when Seattle is in the offensive huddle it's shocking to see Russel Wilson is the shortest guy on the field, by a lot. So impressed by his skills at that height.
I was at the game tonight. Panther O line was on point, and the defense held up as long as they could. Biggest thing that stood out to me was this: when Seattle is in the offensive huddle it's shocking to see Russel Wilson is the shortest guy on the field, by a lot. So impressed by his skills at that height.
Purple Cheeto
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QB controversy!
According to the box score, Edelman also achieved a perfect passer rating that game lol.
Has any WR/RB ever done that?
Griffey wanted out of Seattle and wanted to move closer to his hometown of Cincinatti, probably a bigger contrac and the Mariners aren't the Yankees. Same with Randy Johnson, once he gained Roger Clemens status, the Diamondbacks offered him a huge salary thar Seattle couldn't match. The Mariners were missing a several pieces in the 90's to win the World Series. After Randy Johnson, the starting pitchers on the team weren't good.
tiggerkiddo
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Hoping tomorrow has one good game (GB-DAL), while Denver just quietly handles business with Indy.
Coldnoodle
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What else do you enjoy little one?
Ah man that's a shame. If only that team waited one more year for Ichiro to come aboard...
I mean as you said that would not solve the pitching rotation after Big Unit but still...that would have been potentially the best batting order ever lol.
Gang banging cousin hookers while giving them a a belly rub
I don't think you understand what he was complaining about.
Purple Cheeto
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The Mariners were in rebuilding mode and traded Randy Johnson to Houston. Then after that season he signed with Arizona.
Griffey's family was in Florida (although he grew up in Cinci) and he demanded to be traded to a team closer to his family.
The Ichiro thing wasn't exactly something anyone could have foreseen. No one knew he would come over when he did and no one knew he would be as good as he was. Also Randy had been gone for 2 years at that point.
They also won 116 games without Randy Johnson, Ken Griffey Jr and A-Rod so there's that too.
Sick pic of Benji's near TD:
I wish the Eagles would have drafted him instead of Marcus Smith.
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
Seahawks bout to fuck around in win a back to back Super Bow.
The truth is, for the majority of the last 15 years, the Mariners organization has been MLB's version of the Jaguars.
That's why I haven't been a fan of them since 2008. They never try. Any success they've had since the KGJr era has been lucked into, and they never make an effort to sustain it outside of signing Felix long-term and bringing in Cano.
WesternHeretic
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Before I head out for the night for more drunken adventures I just want to say I love all of you.
#GoHawks
#RestoreTheCaCaw2015
You're wrong we do try, we just suck at trying.
#GoHawks
#RestoreTheCaCaw2015
You're wrong we do try, we just suck at trying.
Foles is probably in the 16-23 section of the list if we're being nice.
Oh I do. I've read a bunch of shit after the game. He's whining like a mofo. It was all legal. But you're a dumb as fuck Eagles fan who'd rather whine about the Patriots on a Saturday night than admit that they successfully overcame the Ravens and the refs tonight.
Ninja Scooter
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Big Balls Pete gonna be a repeat college and NFL champion. GOAT.