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I think you have to. I mean there is no way he would have only gotten 2 games if they saw it.

If you believe this, then it means you also have to believe that a multibillion dollar sports league with enough clout and power as it has like the NFL...wasn't able to convince one puny police department to give up an elevator video tape...but fucking TMZ was able to.

It's okay to say everything about this is fucked up. Because it is.
 

Fox318

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I think you have to. I mean there is no way he would have only gotten 2 games if they saw it.

Come on. They thought they could sweep this under the rug.

Plus this is the Ravens we are talking about and a Harbaugh. Both have histories of looking the other way.

What did Ray Rice tell everyone? "No comment"

Can't wait till october comes and the NFL starts talking about how much the will help profit from breast cancer.
 

jbug617

Banned
Yep NFL are claiming they didn't see this vid

@JasonLaCanfora: NFL issues statement saying it sought any and all video evidence from the Ray Rice incident. Was unable to view elevator video until today
 
If you believe this, then it means you also have to believe that a multibillion dollar sports league with enough clout and power as it has like the NFL...wasn't able to convince one puny police department to give up an elevator video tape...but fucking TMZ was able to.

It's okay to say everything about this is fucked up. Because it is.

Saying they didn't see it isn't necessarily any better than saying they did see it and didn't act.

Negligence and ignorance (willful or not) rather than active dismissal isn't some crowning achievement for the NFL when it comes to a case of this importance.
 
P.S. Breadly Cooper, I've downloaded new rosters for Madden 25 if you want to start a new league.

I'm seriously considering buying Madden 15 too as well though :(
 

bionic77

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Man I love watching him play
Were you talking about Ben?

Speaking of the Steelers. What the fuck happened to the o-line in the 2nd half? The Browns were pushing us around on both sides of the ball. That is exactly what happened in the Eagles preseason game too. I hope that was just another mental letdown (can't blame Tomlin for that, this goes back to the 90s).

I remember one play where the Browns rushed 3 and got immediate pressure right up the middle against Ben when we had 5 linemen blocking on the play!

Hope the Ravens fucking implode about this Rice thing. This Steelers needs some breaks with some BS wins until the team can learn how to play football.
 

LJ11

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Wake is going to eat against Seantrel Henderson, he's not ready and will have a rough game. Wish we had a D coordinator worth a shit, would give me some confidence at another win before the month is out!

Bills have a big hole a S right now, just awful to watch.
 

Draxal

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If you believe this, then it means you also have to believe that a multibillion dollar sports league with enough clout and power as it has like the NFL...wasn't able to convince one puny police department to give up an elevator video tape...but fucking TMZ was able to.

It's okay to say everything about this is fucked up. Because it is.

I think TMZ had way more to gain from investigating this than the NFL did.

The NFL will say they did their due diligence, but I'm pretty confident that they didn't try their hardest to gain evidence incriminating themselves, for this very reason.
 

jakncoke

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Were you talking about Ben?

Speaking of the Steelers. What the fuck happened to the o-line in the 2nd half? The Browns were pushing us around on both sides of the ball. That is exactly what happened in the Eagles preseason game too. I hope that was just another mental letdown (can't blame Tomlin for that, this goes back to the 90s).

I remember one play where the Browns rushed 3 and got immediate pressure right up the middle against Ben when we had 5 linemen blocking on the play!

Hope the Ravens fucking implode about this Rice thing. This Steelers needs some breaks with some BS wins until the team can learn how to play football.

Dont you mean what the fuck happened to the whole team. 2nd half it seems like Todd stopped calling the game like he did in the 1st and how about the defense getting picked apart by Brian Hoyer. No pressures, Browns targets basically wide open. There is so much to shit on us during that 2nd half. Also like Ike of all his career, dropping that INT.
 

BigAT

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Am I just completely remembering incorrectly or something? I swear it was said a few times during the initial investigation that Goodell had seen the video footage from inside the elevator that no one else (at the time) had access too.
 

Fox318

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Wake is going to eat against Seantrel Henderson, he's not ready and will have a rough game. Wish we had a D coordinator worth a shit, would give me some confidence at another win before the month is out!

Bills have a big hole a S right now, just awful to watch.

I'll hold your beer for you


Suit up!
 

dionysus

Yaldog
Its VERY likely given our history against hte Browns, that we will be 0-2. Just sayin.

Please Cajun, you are making me fear the return of the Ditka and Haslett eras. By the way, the Ditka era is always fun to reminisce about. Has any coach every had an emotional break like Ditka?
 
Wake is going to eat against Seantrel Henderson, he's not ready and will have a rough game. Wish we had a D coordinator worth a shit, would give me some confidence at another win before the month is out!

Bills have a big hole a S right now, just awful to watch.
I'd say the biggest factor in the Bills sweep of the Phins last year was Bills d-line vs. Phins o-line. You agree?

Hopefully that gap will be narrowed this year but you can't ever look at the Dolphins and chalk up any game as a win. Dolphins can be exploited deep with Delmas and Wilson playing S, the Pats just didn't have the personnel to exploit it. Manuel has the weapons, just needs to connect a few times and you could see some huge plays.

Last season the Dolphins couldn't get a pass rush going against Buffalo for whatever reason. How does their o-line look this year compared to last?
 

LJ11

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I'd say the biggest factor in the Bills sweep of the Phins last year was Bills d-line vs. Phins o-line. You agree?

Hopefully that gap will be narrowed this year but you can't ever look at the Dolphins and chalk up any game as a win. Dolphins can be exploited deep with Delmas and Wilson playing S, the Pats just didn't have the personnel to exploit it. Manuel has the weapons, just needs to connect a few times and you could see some huge plays.

Last season the Dolphins couldn't get a pass rush going against Buffalo for whatever reason. How does their o-line look this year compared to last?

I think their OL is the same as last year, not good imo outside of Glenn and Woods. I think Pettine just wrecked your OL protections last year, sent guys from every angle and had the O confused as fuck. 4 man insta pressure on disguise alone.
 

Bizazedo

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Am I just completely remembering incorrectly or something? I swear it was said a few times during the initial investigation that Goodell had seen the video footage from inside the elevator that no one else (at the time) had access too.

Yeah, I remember reading that as well, but it was on this board. Dunno if it was true or not.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
"Not Halo" but more boring.

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I think their OL is the same as last year, not good imo outside of Glenn and Woods. I think Pettine just wrecked your OL protections last year, sent guys from every angle and had the O confused as fuck. 4 man insta pressure on disguise alone.
At least the Dolphins or Bills will be first in the division after next weekend. I'm okay with that.
 

bionic77

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Dont you mean what the fuck happened to the whole team. 2nd half it seems like Todd stopped calling the game like he did in the 1st and how about the defense getting picked apart by Brian Hoyer. No pressures, Browns targets basically wide open. There is so much to shit on us during that 2nd half. Also like Ike of all his career, dropping that INT.
I was not surprised about Hoyer passing all over us. We got zero pressure. Even in the first half the pressure was not very good, Hoyer was just panicking and fucking up easy throws.

What surprised me was how our line went from playing well to just getting roughed up and pushed around. That didn't have to do with schemes or coaching, they were just physically dominating us. Why such a huge disparity? We didn't have any injuries. Normally with a lead they should be psyched about running the clock out.

Did the Browns just not try in the first half? Did our o-line stop trying? Did the Browns take super steroids in the lockeroom before the 3rd quarter?

Whatever it was, it is was weird to see such a drop off in something you would think is going to be relatively consistent.
 
Am I just completely remembering incorrectly or something? I swear it was said a few times during the initial investigation that Goodell had seen the video footage from inside the elevator that no one else (at the time) had access too.

That's what me and a lot of other people elsewhere are remembering. He publicly said during the suspension that he saw the police tape, which was the whole elevator video. So either this is an entirely new tape, or Goodell's a fucking liar. Which isn't news.
 

jakncoke

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I was not surprised about Hoyer passing all over us. We got zero pressure. Even in the first half the pressure was not very good, Hoyer was just panicking and fucking up easy throws.

What surprised me was how our line went from playing well to just getting roughed up and pushed around. That didn't have to do with schemes or coaching, they were just physically dominating us. Why such a huge disparity? We didn't have any injuries. Normally with a lead they should be psyched about running the clock out.

Did the Browns just not try in the first half? Did our o-line stop trying? Did the Browns take super steroids in the lockeroom before the 3rd quarter?

Whatever it was, it is was weird to see such a drop off in something you would think is going to be relatively consistent.

Its obvious to me that Manziel opened up his cigar case of cocaine and all the starters for the Browns did 4 lines.
 

bionic77

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I officially call upon the allies of the NFL to stand against this organization of terroristic blights.

Win or lose, this organization will be routed from the face of the earth.
I am all in!

Vike Bike!

Yes.

I watched The League episode with Fitzmagic last night. Somehow he is a worse actor than quarterback. Also he looks fat as hell in a suit. Amazing.
Weird I always thought you hated him. Sometimes it is hard to penetrate your troll shield and know what you really think about something.

Steelers fans are going to miss Ben when he is gone. Most exciting player in Steelers history.
 
Am I just completely remembering incorrectly or something? I swear it was said a few times during the initial investigation that Goodell had seen the video footage from inside the elevator that no one else (at the time) had access too.

That's what me and a lot of other people elsewhere are remembering. He publicly said during the suspension that he saw the police tape, which was the whole elevator video. So either this is an entirely new tape, or Goodell's a fucking liar. Which isn't news.

Peter King said this on July 29

There is one other thing I did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the NFL and some Ravens officials have seen, from the security camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between Rice and his fiancée.

Of course, PK might as well be a league employee but still
 

bionic77

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Its obvious to me that Manziel opened up his cigar case of cocaine and all the starters for the Browns did 4 lines.
I think he should be a friend and share some of that coke with our defense.

With the powers of cocaine fueling them they might just be average.

Also did anyone review Jones play? He was invisible in that second half (along with the rest of our defense). Didn't seem like he came anywhere near Hoyer. Thats not what we drafted you for you biiiiiiiitch.
 

eznark

Banned
Weird I always thought you hated him. Sometimes it is hard to penetrate your troll shield and know what you really think about something.

Steelers fans are going to miss Ben when he is gone. Most exciting player in Steelers history.

lol no, he was generally super mediocre back when the Steelers were relevant and I give him very little credit for much of the success the Steelers had when he was young but since they've torpedoed he has actually grown as a QB. He's always been fun to watch though.

That Steelers - Packers MNF game is still probably my favorite non-post season game ever. He was fucking unbelievable.
 
As a rational person, I don't love the chances against the pats after a loss.

With that said, win or lose you are still an out of state closeted Jags fan. Regardless of the outcome it in no way reflects well on you, your fandom, or your character.

;^)
I am such a Vikings fan right now.

How's Minnesota's pass rush? If you don't get pressure on Brady it will death by a thousand 8 yard crossing routes.
 

cajunator

Banned
thats because you're 9



lol 4-12

nah this team is way too talented to go 4-12 but the Browns have a good defense, and with 3 of 4 on the road its a really tough schedule. You guys are divisional rivals. Not much can be taken from that game like not much can be taken from the Saints Falcons game as a team trend. We have only met the Browns 2 times under Sean Payton and they kicked our ass twice. In recent history, they own us, like the Rams. Could we get lucky and play a great game and defeat them? Yeah. but theyre going to put up a fight and after this embarassment, I doubt the Saints will take them lightly. But I also dont want to take much from this season until the second game is over and a trend is established. If we still get torched, then something is very wrong. Considering our lack of depth at CB, its a problem that needs to be addressed immediately.
 
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