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NFL 2014 Week 3 |OT| But Wait, There's A Flag On The Play?
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Grover Cleveland
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He'll be put on the exempt list. Just left the Panthers facility with Rosenhaus saying a decision has been made but not specifying.
Greg Hardy will get paid 770,000 dollars a week to sit on his ass. I need to get in the weight room and get my woman tossing skills up
Zvonimir Boban
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Futurevoid
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Jadaveon Clowney is out for weeks ...Can't believe that dude is a #1 overall pick. *derp*
I don't get what being injured has to do with draft position?
Isn't this the guy with a sore hamstring for, what, 2 months now?
yankeehater
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Ez read my post again. Nothing console wars at all. Destiny is on both consoles. Future and I had talked about how well it did at launch. I
It's all just bad luck.
How many picks did the Redskins give up for RGIII??????
lolololololols
Tell Chris to play his league game pls
5 person panel charged with determining when there is enough evidence to act. 1 NFLPA, 1 NFL, 1 ACLU, 2 independent arbiters.
The independent arbiters are hired by a committee made up of former players and executives appointed jointly by the NFLPA and NFL and are compensated via separate fund controlled only by the committee, seeded by the two organizations and funded by the fines and penalties the panel meets out.
While a player is being investigated he is suspended with pay, no exceptions. The "time served" will count towards the eventual suspension if found guilty.
I just whipped this up on the fly. Probably some holes but the basic premise is this: you have no right to an NFL career.
I thought it was a groin????
Regardless, maybe having no.90 is a curse. Mario Williams was always fucking hurt.
Got paid though.
Futurevoid
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Yeah...again what does that have to do with draft positioning? People get injured and his case he aggravated the injury coming back to soon during the summer.
Shit happens. Not that I'm happy about it or anything. Coughlin sure as fuck isn't but the Giants just had a running back taken in the first retire because of a fluke career ending neck injury. Can't believe he was taken in the first!!
Of course it is. Sucks, but it is what it is.
I wonder if anyone at NRG said "hey JD you may want to pick a different number." Personally 90 & 8 should be forever removed from the franchise.
RellyRell28
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Everyone who said they heard the radio interview said it was taken out of context. Did they play the interview or just read the words?Remember Reggie Bush's comments?
CNN got hold of them.
Zvonimir Boban
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Relax:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=130410542&postcount=920
League will be advanced by the end of the night
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I believe it was taken out of context a bit. He got on Twitter yesterday to clarify his comment by saying there is a difference beating spanking a child for discipline and beating a child.
As for this week, Caldwell is sticking with Freese again as kicker. Sigh.
I've seen people say this, but what was the context?
This is my prediction as to what will happen to AP. He'll likely miss 4-6 weeks resolving the case, and once completed, those weeks will accrue towards whatever suspension the NFL applies (IMO either 4 games for Personal Conduct or 6 for DV).
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Almost as amazing as when they talk politics.
no doubt!
Maybe the Steelers will have a snowball's chance!
You think he walks then?
If the league has the legal backing of a child abuse conviction his career is over.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Please check out ESPN's Sportscenter poll today and look at which states disagreed with the Vikings suspending Peterson. Here's a hint: they're all where you would expect. Even Minnesota agreed with the decision.
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Get a life. I'm the first to cheer when they play well. The Lions played horrible on Sunday. If you couldn't see that, you're blind and a homer. Ignore list +1.
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Get a life. I'm the first to cheer when they play well. The Lions played horrible on Sunday. If you couldn't see that, you're blind and a homer. Ignore list +1.
So under this hypothetical policy. Someone could accuse Peyton manning of something and the broncos have to sit him while the investigation plays out?
Sure, but it doesn't take a whole lot of time to prove something completely baseless.
The result would be that people who care about playing on Sunday wouldn't put themselves in positions to be accused of stuff Monday through Saturday.
Lions fans here have never liked you Plinko, but at the end of the day, every single year, year in and year out, you are proven correct.
The result would be that people who care about playing on Sunday wouldn't put themselves in positions to be accused of stuff Monday through Saturday.
Lions fans here have never liked you Plinko, but at the end of the day, every single year, year in and year out, you are proven correct.
At least he's franchised. Sucks for this year but he's off the books next year.
Like when the league had the legal backing of a drunk driving manslaughter conviction. Or a drug kingpin conviction.
Do you consider pouring bleach on a child to be abuse btw? I'm not saying I support child abuse but people were more surprised about his gun collection than his crime around here(nobody cared outside the area)
Tragicomedy
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In my experience, the people who yell, "Don't tell me how to raise my kids!" are the exact same people who most need to be told how to raise their kids.
My Facebook feed is full of people saying that their parents "whooped" them and they turned out great. News flash: No, you didn't. None of you are poster children for the successes of spanking.
My Facebook feed is full of people saying that their parents "whooped" them and they turned out great. News flash: No, you didn't. None of you are poster children for the successes of spanking.
Sam Hurd is back?!
Terrell Suggs should be out of the league.
Not sure who else you are referring to re: drug kingpin.
Drunk driving manslaughter out of the league.
The problem for Peterson (unlike Brent of Leutke in the MLB) is that he is way too high profile to be let back in, unless he does serious prison time like Vick and "serves his debt" which makes us all feel totally cool about that guy again! Like Martha!
Arguing from history over and over again and thinking it's relevant to what's going on now. Times have changed. Deal with it bro.
Sweeney Tom
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Is the drunk driving manslaughter guy Josh Brent? Because he spent 6 months in jail this year, was out of the league for the season last year, and is also out for 10 games this year. It's kinda dumb that the Cowboys will bring him back, but you can't say he wasn't punished. You could even say his punishment will continue when the Cowboys pick him up, because he'll be on the Cowboys.
DeaconKnowledge
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I have no argument there.
Thing is though this is an endemic problem. As Spectral said above many of these players become accustomed to preferential treatment as early as grade school. Look, recently an entire town tried to cover up an alleged rape because it involved said town's star football players. The NFL is just as guilty of this. Look how Goodell spent more time trying to bury Rice's trangressions rather than unearth them. As I said when it happened that is the true indicator of his integrity, and by proxy the league he governs. You want a zero tolerance policy for all members of he NFL regardless of talent or tenure? Better start by replacing the commish.
Futurevoid
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Why is "whooped" being conflated with abusing a child with switches though? You can take whatever stance you like on the traditional definition of spanking (i.e. slapping a kids hand or spanking them in the butt with your hand), etc. Thats none of my business. What does that have to do with grabbing a tree branch and drawing blood from a 4 year old child?
I don't think anyone here will argue on Goodell's behalf but it seems like a false choice. It's still improving by disciplining these players for their bad behavior.\
I had a coworker today talk about being switched. The whole argument of: "I was okay and I was hit" vs. a four year old getting switched is some serious false equivalency.
The commissioner (and owners) should be removed as much as possible from the disciplining process. They have too much at stake.
(Specifically for off the field incidents obviously)
DeaconKnowledge
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Call me skeptical but I doubt AP gets convicted of anything. He'll skate off his star power.
Here's always been my problem with Goodell and his approach towards discipline. He always does just enough to shut the issue up (unless it's an "us vs. them" issue like player safety or Bountygate") this is for obvious reasons - too much negative noise hampers the NFL's moneymaking machine. The act of Goodell even being involved in these matters is a conflict of interest. Eznark made a great point - give the power to an independent commision divorced from the commisioner and the day to day aspects.
So far Goodell hasn't done this, which frankly opens him up to all of the scrutiny possible with situations like this, and deservedly so.
Tragicomedy
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The very fact that they are saying "whooped" instead of "hit" is meant to downplay the whole thing. "You sure whooped him good!" is just a cover term to hide what we're really saying.
Because people who were physically abused by their parents need to find some way to cope with it, euphemisms help.
I think if he 'skates' away, it's because precedent in this type of case or it somehow gets thrown out. His star power probably brought it on, if anything.
I don't think an ordinary citizen is likely to have something that happened months ago come up on them in most situations
Futurevoid
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My mother was hit with switches and electrical cords when she was young. She disciplined her children in similar ways.
By most every definition we've gone through in this thread, I was abused as a child. My mom used to take thin plastic slippers to the back of my thighs to the point where she left welts. Though I was 8-10 years old at that point. When I got older she graduated to one of those thick yellow whiffle ball bats to the arms when I pissed her off enough (and as a young teenager I used to it on purpose to test limits). Am I "ok" as an adult? Sure. Did it ever alienate me from my mother/father? No. I'm very close with my parents today. Did I deserve that as a child? Of course not. Would I ever do that to my children? Fuck no. The most my kids have ever gotten is a slap on the hand from me. There are better ways to discipline kids without going to that level of extreme behavior - period.
DeaconKnowledge
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The thing that really bothers me is that in less than a year AP lost a child that he barely knew anything about (and seemingly didn't give a fuck about) to child abuse, then tears up another (possibly two) to astonishing degree. What kind of parent is thus guy?
Essentially yes. They aren't even going after a charge of child abuse, because they know it's dead in the water. Reckless injury will be difficult because it conflates with the lawful allowance of corporal punishment in the state of Texas. Because of this, and by proving that the child understood why he was punished, proving the injury risks the life or well being of the child is next to impossible.
Long story short, I can easily see a plea down to a Class A misdemeanor charge of parental neglect.
Some people might go nuts at this, but frankly, the case is in Texas. The initial dismissal and reasoning behind it of the first grand jury on the indictment will also be a huge roadblock for any prosecution.
The Artful Dodger
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I thought that was proven to be bullshit and never happened?
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