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How hot is their wife/girlfriend
Most people can't watch all the games. If you're saying watch just one game, well that's a horrible sample size.
I think TD/INT and YPA are pretty good. I think QBR and just QB Rating are not very good at all.
Alligatorjandro
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TD to INT ratio
Dutch Gronk
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Handsomeness is also really important.
CrocMother
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Fantasy football points
We've found Greg Hardy's GAF account
DeaconKnowledge
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Include the Running back then.
TDs is what all other stats are trying to achieve. In an absolute sense, Who's is better? Alex Smith's 20 TD's or Carson Palmer's 35? Even if the RB "stole" 10 touchdowns from each, we can definitively say Carson was superior.
A TD is 6 points for your team. an INT isn't necessarily 6 points for the opposing team. They are not equal.
Himynameischris
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True, but most stats need context, YPA might be the one that needs the least. Everything else including TD/INT you need to break down the plays to get a good idea of what they actually represent.
Dutch Gronk
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Points scored per offensive drive should then be your benchmark.
I'm still going with handsomeness.
They're not treating them equally, they're measuring the ratio against other QBs, where an INT is the same thing.
DeaconKnowledge
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While I agree it's a little messy.
I think a cleaner way to do it would be TD's/Game.
Carson Palmer's 35 TDs = 2.19 TDs per game.
Alex Smith's 20 TDs = 1.25 TDs per game.
Right, but not all Interceptions are the same.
Ben, Arians and Luck subscribe to the theory that an int on a long Pass = punt and can result in few or even zero points for the other team. Conversely, some interceptions go the distance for 6. A QB may have less interceptions, but more of those interceptions directly resulted in points.
I agree that TDs are the most important stat and generally if you want to see how good a qb is just look at overall points scored, first downs and yards for a team.
Otherwise game to game you need to actually watch the game. Pass protection, drops, field position, quality of the opposing defense, etc, are not reflected in most stats.
Dutch Gronk
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I think TDs per offensive drive then. Sure it still includes the variable of field position, of which I don't know if that differs significantly per team, but you eliminate the kicker his performance and the amount of turnovers your defense forces.
Himynameischris
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What about dump offs to RB/TEs/ Screens that go for TDs? You can't evaluate a QB with just stats, any stats, doesn't matter. Watch the film or read break downs if you can't watch that much film, if you really want to get a good idea of how good a QB is, that's the only way.
Not all touchdowns are the same either. You throw a screen to Antonio Brown and he runs 65 yards for a touchdown should that be interpreted differently than a play action to Gronk at the goal line?
yankeehater
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Sucks to have to pay so much but I would do it in a second.
Alligatorjandro
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Winz are the best stat
Himynameischris
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*Note to NFL GAF: when we buy a team keep Yankeehater away from the GM position at all costs.
Dude i was waiting all day yesterday for you to pick me up.
bullshit.
I'd take a cheap Chad Henne over an expensive and injury prone Bradford.
But how many fantasy points do I get for that?
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Bradford wants more than it would cost to tag him? Fat chance.
Yeah football is such a team game that stats are just not as important to me as they might be in other sports.
I mean what stat is there for the play call, the defense you are going against, or the most important one how good your coach is? Even though the Pats are cheats and everything they have done is unfortunately tainted in the eyes of all reasonable Americans, you can't deny that they have a hell of a good system in place for the qb. They do what they can to protect the qb and the offensive line and can keep racking up first downs with a steady diet of screens, dumpoffs and short passes over the middle.
Teams are in a bad position and the market sucks.
The draft isn't going to get you a savior most likely if you need a QB, and FA isn't great either.
So that leaves us with project QBs shooting up the charts in the draft, and FA being paid more than they would have been worth a couple years ago.
I don't think Bradford will get $25M. With the market and cap increase? He could drive his value up more, same for other FA QBs that are decent. That's also why I think the $12M - $15M for Oz isn't outrageous either.
Dutch Gronk
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Well of course, nobody is arguing that, but we're discussing what the best stat would be without having to watch 256 games.
Win Percentage and handsomeness.
Tom Brady wins both, GOAT
yankeehater
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The guy had one of if not the best seasons in franchise history, and that is with the WR's dropping a record # of passes, and the OL being unable to open any holes in the running game. Eagles are not going to get a better QB from anywhere else, plus they have a ton of cap space. Give Bradford a deal such that the cap hit is the biggest this year and try to have the numbers be more respectable going forward. At the press conference yesterday Pederson talked about wanting the team to compete this year, there is only one QB available who gives you any chance for that to be true.
You want to pay him more than Aaron Rodgers......think about it.
Can Bradford even hail Mary?
Wins are invalidated due to rampant cheating.
And handsomeness is a subjective statistic that can only be measured by the rigidity of the penis, which can vary greatly from person to person (some of whom don't even have a penis and are thus disqualified from weighing in on this stat, but otherwise can be great people).
Cannot wait for Fire Emblem. Which version you getting?
Cornbread78
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25 mil/season for a busted up Bradford? Dude is high as a kite... Someone add him to the NFL watch list.
Alligatorjandro
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From Twitter
#Patriots LB Darius Fleming played vs #Chiefs with 22 stitches in his R leg. Cut himself kicking out a burning car window to save a woman
Damn
#Patriots LB Darius Fleming played vs #Chiefs with 22 stitches in his R leg. Cut himself kicking out a burning car window to save a woman
Damn
did he leave him a bible verse boosting is ego or did he tear his acl walking down the street?Sorry ran into RG3 on the way and got distracted:
Wonder if he really said that.
Dutch Gronk
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What about you and your viagra abuse?
Both can't win playoff games, so I guess there is that.
yankeehater
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So Bradford is asking for slightly more, but the Cap has gone up since then and the amount of revenue has also gone up. Bradford is also a FA which will drive his price up considerably. How much would Rodgers get if he was a FA this offseason?
DeaconKnowledge
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While that is true, the end result of a TD is always 6 points. Also the likelihood of AB running 65 yards for a score on a regular basis is low. (Though i've always been irked at how much credit the QB receives for plays like those. Necessary evil I suppose,)
The bastard already delayed our trip to San Diego to live with Bread and made me leave you waiting and you want him as your QB?
Just going to abandon Pip eh? Bread would not be pleased
Probably all of them. Can you please advise me what I should do friend as I am in the dark on this game.
Unlike Peyton Manning and 90% of the NFL I don't take any performance enhancing drugs.
Its all natural baby.
Its helps that I don't masturbate 5 times a day to anime porn like half of GAF.
Dutch Gronk
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Real American hero.
Himynameischris
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My point is that there really isn't a stat you could use, you just can't.
Yes I know and someone who went 15 years without even a decent back up I understand the feeling of needing a QB but $25M for Bradford? Hell no, Tannehilll doesn't get that much and he has far more upside than Bradford. $18M would be the max for Bradford and that's with a big injury clause.
Yup, you have to account for all 11 players plus coaches when breaking down a play/stats, it's just too much to narrow down into a single number for a single players on a football team.
yankeehater
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You think that there were 15 QBs last year that were better then him. wow!
CrocMother
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Was Bradford's year better than Nick Foles in 2013?
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