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NFL 2015 Week 10 |OT| - A Fraud is Not Clearly Better Than Blaine Gabbert
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He exists in a different era of football. Doesn't take away from any accomplishments he's made. Especially with the junk we've seen rolled out at the position in recent years.
It's also an ironman record to some degree. You have to play a long time, at a high level to get where he's at. He could have played in any era and broke records for that time period.
I don't think anything you stated takes away from him as an individual elite QB.
He might not play on Sunday. Seems kinda up in the air. Battlin' plantar fasciitis.
Oh shit, I did not hear about this. This sounds serious.
Probably just needs some rest. He'll probably play, but you never know.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Nobody can see under your white hood anyway, so you're good regardless.
Himynameischris
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Dutch isn't as shirtless as he'd like us to believe. He's nothing but a fraud!
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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I'm going to take a nap now, y'all better wake me up for the Nintendo Direct.
Probably.
I'm as big a Manning hater as anyone, but you can't take anything away from his statistical accomplishments. He's the best regular season QB ever, no doubt about it. Watching him shred defenses in his heyday with the Colts was a thing of beauty. There were some games where you just felt bad for the guys on the other team because you knew they had no chance. No other QB made playing the position look absolutely effortless in the way he did. Playoffs are a different story but hell, he at least has one ring, which is more then a lot of the other record book queens can say.
Every QB that held the record benefited in some way from rule changes, equipment changes or strategic innovations. Teams couldn't freely substitute players until the 50s. Paul Brown invented the facemask after Otto Graham had a gruesome face injury. Marino benefited from the Mel Blount rule like all the 80s guys
Marketing figure? Bob Waterfield was married to Jane Russell in the 40s. Joe Namath was a sex symbol doing pantyhose commercials in the 70s. Dan Marino sold millions of Isotoners to women thinking they would be cool gifts to dads and grads
That article is written to combat the notion that guys with stats are somehow lesser players than the ones with ringz.
Now I'm interested.
I'm just really excited to see them again. Don't really care about the content of the direct, probably just gonna be dates and new trailers for games we know about. And Twilight Princess HD which is cool. But I'm glad the format is back
His playoff stats cumulatively aren't terrible. Had some rough years in there, but average looking in comparison to the regular season stuff.
Post-season break downs per game:
24 games, 38 TDs, 24 INTs, 6800 yards, 56.52%.
1.6 TDs, 1 Int, 283 yards per game.
Regular season break downs per game:
264 games, 539 TDs, 247 Ints, 71836 yards, 65.39%
2.04 TDs, 0.93 Ints, 272 yards per game
Pretty consistent, but post-season is more hohum versus regular season stuff. Could be a function of playing better defenses or the C factor.
When you have more loses than wins in the playoffs .... you lose a lot of playoff stat conversations in my book.
Himynameischris
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No dude, he chokes in the playoffs and sucks in cold weather despite the evidence. ESPN wouldn't dedicate all that time arguing if they were wrong would they?!
This might come as a shock...but wins aren't a QB stat.
Marty-esque
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I gotta see these Jets jerseys tonight. It looks like "green man" from the pictures.
greatestjediever
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But Tom Brady!
It's more the highs and lows. Manning won his SB when he was shitty in the playoffs as well.
Real men fry a turkey.
I keep saying I'm gonna do it every year, but I chicken out. I don't know why, I've smoked things that take way longer than turkey, and I've done turkey legs. I guess I just don't want to do it in freezing cold temps lol
If a QB can not will his team to win in the playoffs, it matters. The whole point of playing the game is to win, so yes, it is a QB stat.
Himynameischris
Member
What exactly constitutes willing his team to win in the playoffs?
Do you think Dan Marino was worse than Trent Dilfer?
Marty-esque
Member
My brother in law has deep fried the turkey the past two years. So good.
Why not pick someone with an equivalent sample size? Not 6 games. I would take Eli over his brother. I would take Big Ben also.
I mean, it's not just that they lost, but Manning played HORRIBLY in a lot of those losses. Lots of INTS and very few TDs.
It's ok. No one ever accused you of being a real man.
Himynameischris
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Sure I agree he didn't have great games, he didn't have great games in the regular season either. But we know not all those INTS are on him (just like all those TDs aren't on him either) Football more than any other sport is a team sport, both offense and defense and special teams needs to play well, to equate wins to just one player on a team consisting of 50+ players is ridiculous. Manning plays the QB position like no other, changed what it meant to play it. Look at how he plays the position and judge him off that, not 'wins', leave that for the gatas of the world.
Brian Hoyer as a Patriot. Your point?
Mort thinks that Megatron is probably playing for a new team in 2016. He also thinks that Stafford is staying.
On Stafford
On Stafford
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14092506/calvin-johnson-his-final-stretch-detroit-lion-nfl
You're talking about sample size and then talking about the postseason. Not sure I follow that logic. Ben's numbers are worse than Peyton's in the playoffs BTW. Eli's are better but he's played half the games.
Eli is not better than one of, if not the best QB ever. Sorry. That's ridiculous. Eli's interception rate in the regular season is pretty bad actually. He's Jay Cutler/Chad Henne level there.
Enjoy the wrath of Newton fans.
Himynameischris
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ActStriker
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Eagles' Malcolm Jenkins played the entire 2nd half with a concussion.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/11/12/philadelphia-eagles-malcolm-jenkins-played-concussion
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/11/12/philadelphia-eagles-malcolm-jenkins-played-concussion
I know that feeling friend.
Mine usually involves laughing tho.
I've told the story here before when I was in Calgary a Dallas Cowboys fan in his 70s approached me and chirped me for being a Browns fan. Then thought it must be a joke that I'm a Browns fan.
Saw that. Dude can't be doing that he could've really fucked himself up. I appreciate that he wanted to keep playing but concussions are no joke. Should've put himself before the team there
It was a comparison between the regular and post-season stats. Not a team based win/loss comparison. If you are validating stats based on the win/loss column, your book is a piece of shit and you should be laughed at.
He did, but it's just like anything else. A couple real stinkers, a bunch of mediocre/average/good games, and a few real gems.
He's no Broncos fan, we won't allow him in.
It wasn't very smart to do that and even dumber to admit to it.
really?