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NFL 2015 Week 14 |OT| - A Fraud Probably Injures Himself
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The Tampa Bay and Detroit games notwithstanding, this Eagles defense has been an absolute blast to watch. I've also been very surprised by Bradford's growth as a player, if he remains uninjured and resists throwing picks he'll be back next year. I'd love to see him with a deep threat at WR and at least an above average offensive line. Chip NEEDS to fix these two enormous holes though if this team wants to take any meaningful step forward though. Very disappointed in Agholor's performance. I still think there is serious enough dearth of talent that we'll get slaughtered in round one of the playoffs if we face anyone other than someone like Minnesota, though.
skLaFarebear
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You know a fan/team relationship is abusive when we start blaming ourselves for how terrible the situation is.
Shannon Sharpe was also on the radio this morning saying that they have to push the ball further down the field. His caveat to this? Brock didn't have enough time to let those routes develop down field. You'll never push the ball down the field with a defender in your face or on your back. You'll never get those plays downfield if you can't control the line of scrimmage.
Dolphins are abusive, eh?
First dropback of the game he went all the way across the field in his progressions. I am glad it isn't a training wheels version of the offense, and that he looks improved
SF is really bad and the last three (SEA, KC, PIT) will obviously be big tests
Manziel maybe just needed some time to work things out in the NFL.
Himynameischris
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No, I'm hoping they lose the next 4, even Armando wrote about how it would be better to lose out, we need the better draft spot, we need Ross to clean house top to bottom, he even gave the same reason you did, Ross will be stupid enough to keep people around if we get to 8-8. The best thing for the franchise is for us to lose the next 4 games and I totally expect them to win out now :/ I'm just looking forward to the throwbacks tonight and next Sunday when I get to see them for the first time in San Diego, after that I'm done with this team until draft time.
No, no, no. He's a bust and must be released right now!
skLaFarebear
Member
Nothing would be more hilarious than this team winning out to go 9-7 and still missing the playoffs. I wouldn't even know how to feel about that other than feeling like we deserve it.
Line pls!
Honestly, this looks like the offense DeFillipo wanted to run all along.
These are dirty because I didnt realize there was a limit on frames in GifCam and I have no idea how to edit it once you save it.
Everything in this GIF is so far beyond what Hoyer is capable of it's astounding.
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where's the Lacy run at the end?
Sorry, was busy making massive JFF compilation GIFs!
What's his leverage?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Rooting for Johnny. He's going to play a pretty significant role in whether or not the Jets make the playoffs. Go Johnny!
Still my biggest fear. He looks so small, and still takes some hits he needs to avoid. Not sure he makes it through that gauntlet. I actually worry more about Travis Benjamin, who might weigh 140 lbs. Already a few concussions and it just seems like they will be playing behind a lot
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FrenchMovieTheme
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i can cherry pick a bunch of games where kap "goes through his progressions", makes smart throws and gets a W. maziel played great yesterday (save for one god awful INT) but keep in mind the talent level of the defense. he was rarely pressured yesterday. most of the time he just sat back in the pocket and waited and waited and waited and waited. our defense is trash. if manziel does what he did to us against the seachickens this week THEN i will give him props
No, you can't. That's the point.
One of the things I was most impressed with was his ability to recognize hots and get his (complete garbage) receivers on the same page on the fly. He made a number of fadeaway completions into the teeth of zones because of his ability to read and react. Plus his athleticism will hopefully allow him to avoid a lot of those hits.
I really think he can easily be Russell Wilson after his performance yesterday.
I believe they are up there. At one point during the season, Washington was leading the league in this category. They may have been surpassed.
Was pretty awesome to see him live yesterday. The INT I saw coming a mile away, my buddies were laughing at me because I yelled out "YOU FOOL DON'T DO IT!" a second before he made his throw.
It'll be interesting to see how he does the next two weeks as some have already said.
Hats off to the OC Flip though, the offense despite the lack of a proper RB has been outstanding all year long no matter who has been in there it feels.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14366129/carolina-panthers-defensive-end-charles-johnson-gripes-playing-win
Not smart for a player who's cap hit is $20 million this year and hasn't been productive.
Not smart for a player who's cap hit is $20 million this year and hasn't been productive.
FrenchMovieTheme
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yes i can?
kap vs. packers in the opening game of 2013
kap vs. falcons in the NFC title game
kap vs. panthers in the NFC division game
kap vs. patriots in 2012
kap vs. bears in 2012
kap vs. cards last game of 2013
kap vs. redskins 2013
kap vs. rams 2013
he has had quite a few games where he has looked excellent. the problem is most of these great games were against trash teams/defenses, which is exactly my point. lets see how John F. does against a real defense
PanicFreak
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I agree with all of that except that there were 51 passes thrown and while Brock was under pressure, most of his passes were check downs. That means that he had time to go through his progressions and, therefore, had time to throw the ball deep. There were only two or three plays that I remember where Brock was literally dead in the water from the moment the ball was snapped.
Was the offensive line terrible? Yes. Could Brock have pushed the ball deeper? Also, yes.
Concern about Brian Hoyer is both a short-term and long-term issue due to severity, frequency of his concussions, according to sources
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/676482558624997376
A league without Hoyer.
https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/676482558624997376
A league without Hoyer.
I definitely watched all the playoff games and remember him in 2012. The other games just sort of blend together. He was a first read and go guy. Especially against the Packers. C'mon man, he had literally zero patience but generally didn't need it. The league hadn't figured out how to handle RO yet and defenses were generally baffled by pistol draw action with a deep post. It's pretty much all they needed against Green Bay and Carolina.
I'm not talking about the outcome or the stats, I'm talking about how he played. He was clearly given a lot more responsibility than Kap was ever given and handled it well. He made checks on a significant number of plays, stayed with the play a hell of a lot longer than I ever expected him to and often came back to his first read after going off of it.
In short, he was an actual quarterback. Not sure I ever saw a full game of Kap playing the position, though to be fair Harbaugh never asked him to.
Zvonimir Boban
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Case Keenum, Chris Long and a second round pick for Watt. Everybody wins, let's make it happen.
Broken
Dutch Gronk
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Luck to IR
Jags win the South
Jags win the South
Plasticine
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I think that's a nice way to go, but feel like either of these gentlemen would be finer choices.
Zvonimir Boban
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Dammit Mech, you were meant to bring Case home!
Grover Cleveland
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This is probably true. DA did beat the Bucs twice last year.
And he did look good on his one slang attempt that mattered at the end of the first half yesterday.
Nemesis121
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If he's cut Jerry Jones will be waiting..
Bort Future
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Jerry would make him the highest paid QB in the NFL.
FrenchMovieTheme
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he threw for over 400 yards against the packers (regular season). in that game, he had more rushes scrambling out of the pocket then out of the read option. infact, throughout most of 2013, we didn't run much read option. we did run it here and there, but it wasn't like 2012 where defenses were just fucking clueless.
i'm not going to post a thousand gifs but the "one read QB!" thing is a myth to a large degree
i've watched every niners game of his career and his issue wasn't that he was a one read QB, it's that he refuses to take chances, won't throw receivers open and generally has poor pocket presence.
as for manziel being given more freedom than kap with audibling, i don't disagree because our coaching staffs (harbs and tomsula) just don't do it. oh well! anyhow, i'm not defending kap, he's trash without a running game/dominant defense but just to say that one game against a bad defense doesn't make manziel anything right now. it's like ron jaworski saying kap could be the greatest QB ever after throwing for 400 against the packers: it's one game and means nothing
shiftplusone
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Logically i'm glad the cowboys lost but as a fan I am sad
I want some Kellan Moore next week against the Jets. my stepdad is taking me and my brother to that game so I'd like to see something refreshing than Matt Cassel gettin hassled
But Merrill Hoge says he's incapable of doing that!
I want some Kellan Moore next week against the Jets. my stepdad is taking me and my brother to that game so I'd like to see something refreshing than Matt Cassel gettin hassled
But Merrill Hoge says he's incapable of doing that!
How many games until they mean something? Like, how many of a players games do we pretend tell us nothing until we decide that magically they do?
He played well. If he plays well for three weeks will you then look at this game and say ok I guess he played well in that game now too, because in hindsight he has played well since. That's stupid as fuck. If he plays like shit next week he will have played like shit next week. Are we not allowed to say he played like shit because it was only one week?
Can we only evaluate the play of veterans now? And how much service time do they need before we can say if they were good in one game? Lacy has played three years, is it ok to say he played well yesterday or is that not a long enough career to evaluate how he was on a particular Sunday?
Alligatorjandro
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Whats this