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NFL 2015 Week 17 |OT| - A Frauds Road Ends
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Peters has been a me first guy his entire career. I don't blame him either, but Peters looks out for himself and only himself. Dude has his own back, will be the first one off the boat, pushing old ladies out of the way Costanza style.
You begging for an avatar quote?
That's the worst thing you've ever said.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
yes!
As much as Chip maybe deserved to be fired, and we will probably learn a lot more of the background, rumors, in fighting, FUCK LURIE for doing this.
I am so pissed right now! How why and for what?
So after you pulled the rug from Howie Roseman cause Chip convinced you and then you let Chip tear the team and build in his vision all of a sudden you realize this isn't a good idea? WTF? It was never a good idea to give him full power. I am shocked Lurie let this happen or fired him. Leads me to believe a lot more happened and probably not all football related for this to take place.
Lurie is a patient man. He let Reid coach for 14 years here and 5 seasons past his best years. He wanted to hire Chip to build a whole program and culture for the long run. He give Chip power after 2 seasons assuming its all headed in the right direction and being pleased with his performance the first two seasons. And now 1 bad season and its all over?
I don't know what I hate more now. That Lurie gave in to giving him power or that he fired him after basically his 1 season as GM. This isn't a strong QB class coming out so it can't be fear that Chip would mess up a top 5 pick on a bad or the wrong QB. Might as well have let him finish rebuilding when you were so willing to give him total power.
And I know LOL CHIP REVOLUTION but I liked Chip and think he can coach in the NFL. He already showed it. Won 10 games first 2 seasons after taking over a 4 win team. Should have been in the playoffs last year if not for the stupid NFL rules about division winners. You win 10 games your first 2 seasons and have one bad season and you are fired? IT makes no sense and it shows Lurie being inpatient which I don't like.
Seems like a terrible soap opera. Howie was always Lurie's guy. Howie wanted McNabb, Banner, and Reid gone. Howie wanted Chip. Howie got Chip. Chip wanted power so he convinced Lurie to "promote" Howie but out of the GM role. Howie was still in the building and I bet in Lurie's year the whole season about how he would have done this or that differently.
Firing an underperforming coach is 1 thing but this reeks of backstabbing and a constant power struggle between 2 men Lurie really likes and respects. And because these 2 men couldn't get along he sided with Howie.
Fuck it all. Could have still had DeSean, McCoy, and Maclin but considering the vision was long term and everyone had bought into Chip, I was more than willing to go along with the ride and accept this 1 horrible season. Hell RG3 or Kaep might have been available. A top 10 pick. Yes the moves he made largely didn't work but the division sucks and they could just as easily build back up.
Chip will get another NFL job if he wants. SF, Indy, Tenn, and possibly Miami will be interested. And he sure as hell would want to coach Tenn. He wanted to stay he turned down interviews with top college programs.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Can't believe Lurie was this rash to make a decision. There has to be more a lot more. Lurie endured shitty season with Kotite, Rhodes, and even Reid in his final years. This seems so abrupt and so out of the blue.
Thanks for the brief memories Chip
I am so pissed right now! How why and for what?
So after you pulled the rug from Howie Roseman cause Chip convinced you and then you let Chip tear the team and build in his vision all of a sudden you realize this isn't a good idea? WTF? It was never a good idea to give him full power. I am shocked Lurie let this happen or fired him. Leads me to believe a lot more happened and probably not all football related for this to take place.
Lurie is a patient man. He let Reid coach for 14 years here and 5 seasons past his best years. He wanted to hire Chip to build a whole program and culture for the long run. He give Chip power after 2 seasons assuming its all headed in the right direction and being pleased with his performance the first two seasons. And now 1 bad season and its all over?
I don't know what I hate more now. That Lurie gave in to giving him power or that he fired him after basically his 1 season as GM. This isn't a strong QB class coming out so it can't be fear that Chip would mess up a top 5 pick on a bad or the wrong QB. Might as well have let him finish rebuilding when you were so willing to give him total power.
And I know LOL CHIP REVOLUTION but I liked Chip and think he can coach in the NFL. He already showed it. Won 10 games first 2 seasons after taking over a 4 win team. Should have been in the playoffs last year if not for the stupid NFL rules about division winners. You win 10 games your first 2 seasons and have one bad season and you are fired? IT makes no sense and it shows Lurie being inpatient which I don't like.
Seems like a terrible soap opera. Howie was always Lurie's guy. Howie wanted McNabb, Banner, and Reid gone. Howie wanted Chip. Howie got Chip. Chip wanted power so he convinced Lurie to "promote" Howie but out of the GM role. Howie was still in the building and I bet in Lurie's year the whole season about how he would have done this or that differently.
Firing an underperforming coach is 1 thing but this reeks of backstabbing and a constant power struggle between 2 men Lurie really likes and respects. And because these 2 men couldn't get along he sided with Howie.
Fuck it all. Could have still had DeSean, McCoy, and Maclin but considering the vision was long term and everyone had bought into Chip, I was more than willing to go along with the ride and accept this 1 horrible season. Hell RG3 or Kaep might have been available. A top 10 pick. Yes the moves he made largely didn't work but the division sucks and they could just as easily build back up.
Chip will get another NFL job if he wants. SF, Indy, Tenn, and possibly Miami will be interested. And he sure as hell would want to coach Tenn. He wanted to stay he turned down interviews with top college programs.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Can't believe Lurie was this rash to make a decision. There has to be more a lot more. Lurie endured shitty season with Kotite, Rhodes, and even Reid in his final years. This seems so abrupt and so out of the blue.
Thanks for the brief memories Chip
Nuts.Pistachio_Nuts!
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Superb owl ring? That would look fancy
Sweeney Tom
Banned
And the dude can play.
Hopefully he can return to form. He was playing through multiple injuries, but he's old. Only so many years.
As much as Chip maybe deserved to be fired, and we will probably learn a lot more of the background, rumors, in fighting, FUCK LURIE for doing this.
I am so pissed right now! How why and for what?
So after you pulled the rug from Howie Roseman cause Chip convinced you and then you let Chip tear the team and build in his vision all of a sudden you realize this isn't a good idea? WTF? It was never a good idea to give him full power. I am shocked Lurie let this happen or fired him. Leads me to believe a lot more happened and probably not all football related for this to take place.
Lurie is a patient man. He let Reid coach for 14 years here and 5 seasons past his best years. He wanted to hire Chip to build a whole program and culture for the long run. He give Chip power after 2 seasons assuming its all headed in the right direction and being pleased with his performance the first two seasons. And now 1 bad season and its all over?
I don't know what I hate more now. That Lurie gave in to giving him power or that he fired him after basically his 1 season as GM. This isn't a strong QB class coming out so it can't be fear that Chip would mess up a top 5 pick on a bad or the wrong QB. Might as well have let him finish rebuilding when you were so willing to give him total power.
And I know LOL CHIP REVOLUTION but I liked Chip and think he can coach in the NFL. He already showed it. Won 10 games first 2 seasons after taking over a 4 win team. Should have been in the playoffs last year if not for the stupid NFL rules about division winners. You win 10 games your first 2 seasons and have one bad season and you are fired? IT makes no sense and it shows Lurie being inpatient which I don't like.
Seems like a terrible soap opera. Howie was always Lurie's guy. Howie wanted McNabb, Banner, and Reid gone. Howie wanted Chip. Howie got Chip. Chip wanted power so he convinced Lurie to "promote" Howie but out of the GM role. Howie was still in the building and I bet in Lurie's year the whole season about how he would have done this or that differently.
Firing an underperforming coach is 1 thing but this reeks of backstabbing and a constant power struggle between 2 men Lurie really likes and respects. And because these 2 men couldn't get along he sided with Howie.
Fuck it all. Could have still had DeSean, McCoy, and Maclin but considering the vision was long term and everyone had bought into Chip, I was more than willing to go along with the ride and accept this 1 horrible season. Hell RG3 or Kaep might have been available. A top 10 pick. Yes the moves he made largely didn't work but the division sucks and they could just as easily build back up.
Chip will get another NFL job if he wants. SF, Indy, Tenn, and possibly Miami will be interested. And he sure as hell would want to coach Tenn. He wanted to stay he turned down interviews with top college programs.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Can't believe Lurie was this rash to make a decision. There has to be more a lot more. Lurie endured shitty season with Kotite, Rhodes, and even Reid in his final years. This seems so abrupt and so out of the blue.
Thanks for the brief memories Chip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQ8N1KacJc
I'd argue that Chip coasted off the talent acquired in the Reid era and now that "His boys" are in the team is trash
He only had roster say this season though I am sure he was behind letting DeSean go.
His only questionable roster moves were Murray. Bradford was a shot he took cause Foles sucks balls too.
Chip coached his butt off the first 2 years with a revolving door at QB that he didn't create.
Peters and his injuries were a big part of the problem this year. He was awful the last two games. He was hurt and out in several other games which made the offense even worse. A lot of that is on Chip for not having any OL depth. Dennis Kelly was a penalty machine when not getting the QB planted
It's best to part with him. I am not with Pep about being mad at the guy. He played hurt and it's okay if he wanted out of the game. But it's time to move on for both sides
Oh something definitely happened. Lurie didn't even wait for the season to be over to fire Chip. Even if he didn't want to give up power, what would be the point of firing him now?As much as Chip maybe deserved to be fired, and we will probably learn a lot more of the background, rumors, in fighting, FUCK LURIE for doing this.
I am so pissed right now! How why and for what?
So after you pulled the rug from Howie Roseman cause Chip convinced you and then you let Chip tear the team and build in his vision all of a sudden you realize this isn't a good idea? WTF? It was never a good idea to give him full power. I am shocked Lurie let this happen or fired him. Leads me to believe a lot more happened and probably not all football related for this to take place.
Lurie is a patient man. He let Reid coach for 14 years here and 5 seasons past his best years. He wanted to hire Chip to build a whole program and culture for the long run. He give Chip power after 2 seasons assuming its all headed in the right direction and being pleased with his performance the first two seasons. And now 1 bad season and its all over?
I don't know what I hate more now. That Lurie gave in to giving him power or that he fired him after basically his 1 season as GM. This isn't a strong QB class coming out so it can't be fear that Chip would mess up a top 5 pick on a bad or the wrong QB. Might as well have let him finish rebuilding when you were so willing to give him total power.
And I know LOL CHIP REVOLUTION but I liked Chip and think he can coach in the NFL. He already showed it. Won 10 games first 2 seasons after taking over a 4 win team. Should have been in the playoffs last year if not for the stupid NFL rules about division winners. You win 10 games your first 2 seasons and have one bad season and you are fired? IT makes no sense and it shows Lurie being inpatient which I don't like.
Seems like a terrible soap opera. Howie was always Lurie's guy. Howie wanted McNabb, Banner, and Reid gone. Howie wanted Chip. Howie got Chip. Chip wanted power so he convinced Lurie to "promote" Howie but out of the GM role. Howie was still in the building and I bet in Lurie's year the whole season about how he would have done this or that differently.
Firing an underperforming coach is 1 thing but this reeks of backstabbing and a constant power struggle between 2 men Lurie really likes and respects. And because these 2 men couldn't get along he sided with Howie.
Fuck it all. Could have still had DeSean, McCoy, and Maclin but considering the vision was long term and everyone had bought into Chip, I was more than willing to go along with the ride and accept this 1 horrible season. Hell RG3 or Kaep might have been available. A top 10 pick. Yes the moves he made largely didn't work but the division sucks and they could just as easily build back up.
Chip will get another NFL job if he wants. SF, Indy, Tenn, and possibly Miami will be interested. And he sure as hell would want to coach Tenn. He wanted to stay he turned down interviews with top college programs.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Can't believe Lurie was this rash to make a decision. There has to be more a lot more. Lurie endured shitty season with Kotite, Rhodes, and even Reid in his final years. This seems so abrupt and so out of the blue.
Thanks for the brief memories Chip
It sucks because I realllly wanted to see this team created in Chip's image, for better or worse, because he tried to do something no other coach in the NFL would ever think of. We aren't getting that now, and maybe it's for the best. Maybe Lurie saved us from 3 to 4 more years of undisciplined football. Our offense did get worse, dramatically, over the course of his tenure, but I had hoped there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Now we'll never know.
Coasted? With the same roster Reid won 4 games. Reid wasn't using the guys right. Chip fixed that right away.
That he didn't want to keep them for 1 reason or another was another story.
Reid did similar things. Reid had McNabb and a defense Rhodes had built. Once those guys either left or retired, the D was never the same and Reid started doing goofy things like OLINE Coach as D Coordinator.
They better play to lose. Bench Bradford and Sanchez.
Start all the young guys. I don't want to play Seattle in Seattle next year, rather play Rams in London.
I don't trust anyone holding a camera with a Gran Turismo poster in the background.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Eagles Jan 1
Eagles Dec 29
Eagles Dec 29
We'll beat Seattle in Seattle the same way we trashed New England in Foxborough!!!!!!!
Yeah same, I wanted to at least see him get one more year to see what he could do. Oh well. Maybe if Bradford can audible we can start winning more games (if he comes back)
Best to part with Peters? Nah. He can still play if healthy.
But what they need to do, with whoever takes over, is make sure they actuall draft OLINE men and create proper depth at OLINE.
Its so shocking that Chip overlooked that aspect. I really liked all the things Chip was trying and found logic in most moves, but yeah he did make some really head scratching moves.
I also wonder if we now get the full story of what happened at the draft. All signs pointed to making moves for Mariota and then nothing. Maybe Chip tried and Lurie stopped him. Or Lurie wanted him to but Chip said nah I can make Bradford work.
Largely I think too many overhauls were made in 1 season for the team to gel and be on the same page. Brand new Guards, brand new RBs, new QB, new WRs, new LBs, new corners plus safety all in 1 off season.
I don't like the firing still. You either let him fix this cause it was only 1 fucking season or you don't give him that power to begin with. Lurie seems like he gave in and then was like oh fuck no and then tried to change his mind. And in the meantime all the guys who were super talented were let go.
Who are the hot up and coming candidates? Hue Jackson comes to mind immediately.
omg :lol
Starphoenix
Member
Kelly to the Titans makes too much sense not to happen. Just don't grant him full personnel control and I think he can turn that team around. Problem is can he manage to not turn that locker room against him too?
If he's backYes please!! I'd love to face Bradford again, just like the old days
Nah Jenkins was a Chip guy. So was Kelce.
In fact Kelce was the mouthpiece for Chip.
I hate that this firing somehow proves people right about Chip and his style when in reality his style and coaching worked. His decision to find a franchise QB didn't and that really set the whole team back. He won with Vick, Foles, and Sanchez. And a shit worse D than what the Eagles have now. Chip can coach. Chip made some really questionable moves as a GM but he should have been given 2-3 seasons.
I don't like this new Lurie.
I wonder if the Giants have any interest in Chip. SF, Indy, or Tenn would be ideal for Chip.
Himynameischris
Member
Yup I was on the toilet too,
You caused it! the fuck did you eat?
lmao
That's damn good
Jenkins today talked about the defense being unable to ever be a top unit with the way they played offense. It's impossible to still believe in all tempo all the time. It killed them this year. You can't do it with a bad offense. Chip needed to adjust that and he never did
Jenkins also had some stuff over Thanksgiving about the team needing to be able to call out teammates in group meetings. Brandon Graham today echoed that saying he agreed with Jenkins about calling guys out on "effort". Pretty obvious that Murray and Maxwell were not adored. There were a few comments to reporters about Murray's slide vs Miami
Took the Browns to the Super Bowl
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Well 2016 is starting to look up!
Himynameischris
Member
8 X 11 Printer Paper
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I had a burrito
Was there rice in it? Maybe this is Bread's revenge.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Spectral Glider
Member
As much as Chip maybe deserved to be fired, and we will probably learn a lot more of the background, rumors, in fighting, FUCK LURIE for doing this.
I am so pissed right now! How why and for what?
So after you pulled the rug from Howie Roseman cause Chip convinced you and then you let Chip tear the team and build in his vision all of a sudden you realize this isn't a good idea? WTF? It was never a good idea to give him full power. I am shocked Lurie let this happen or fired him. Leads me to believe a lot more happened and probably not all football related for this to take place.
Lurie is a patient man. He let Reid coach for 14 years here and 5 seasons past his best years. He wanted to hire Chip to build a whole program and culture for the long run. He give Chip power after 2 seasons assuming its all headed in the right direction and being pleased with his performance the first two seasons. And now 1 bad season and its all over?
I don't know what I hate more now. That Lurie gave in to giving him power or that he fired him after basically his 1 season as GM. This isn't a strong QB class coming out so it can't be fear that Chip would mess up a top 5 pick on a bad or the wrong QB. Might as well have let him finish rebuilding when you were so willing to give him total power.
And I know LOL CHIP REVOLUTION but I liked Chip and think he can coach in the NFL. He already showed it. Won 10 games first 2 seasons after taking over a 4 win team. Should have been in the playoffs last year if not for the stupid NFL rules about division winners. You win 10 games your first 2 seasons and have one bad season and you are fired? IT makes no sense and it shows Lurie being inpatient which I don't like.
Seems like a terrible soap opera. Howie was always Lurie's guy. Howie wanted McNabb, Banner, and Reid gone. Howie wanted Chip. Howie got Chip. Chip wanted power so he convinced Lurie to "promote" Howie but out of the GM role. Howie was still in the building and I bet in Lurie's year the whole season about how he would have done this or that differently.
Firing an underperforming coach is 1 thing but this reeks of backstabbing and a constant power struggle between 2 men Lurie really likes and respects. And because these 2 men couldn't get along he sided with Howie.
Fuck it all. Could have still had DeSean, McCoy, and Maclin but considering the vision was long term and everyone had bought into Chip, I was more than willing to go along with the ride and accept this 1 horrible season. Hell RG3 or Kaep might have been available. A top 10 pick. Yes the moves he made largely didn't work but the division sucks and they could just as easily build back up.
Chip will get another NFL job if he wants. SF, Indy, Tenn, and possibly Miami will be interested. And he sure as hell would want to coach Tenn. He wanted to stay he turned down interviews with top college programs.
Still doesn't make sense to me. Can't believe Lurie was this rash to make a decision. There has to be more a lot more. Lurie endured shitty season with Kotite, Rhodes, and even Reid in his final years. This seems so abrupt and so out of the blue.
Thanks for the brief memories Chip
Every time I get pissed off at Coach Shades for shitting the bed against yet another lousy team, I read something like this and think, "Well, I suppose shit could be worse."
Elfforkusu
Member
Acceptance is the first step. Nice to see
Himynameischris
Member
Of course, I'm not a degenerate