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NFL 2015 Week 2 |OT| - A Fraud’s First Steps

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RBH

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Wellington said:
We will be seeing a lot of Julio highlights tomorrow.
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Nemesis121 said:
I am hoping bad Road Falcons show up...
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FloydtheFathead said:
With that Giants secondary? They could and I would still feel comfortable with picking them.
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When it comes to the Falcons, I never assume anything haha.



Here's an article from PFF about the Falcons' formations from this past Monday:




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Atlanta lined up with 21 personnel (two backs, one tight end) in an offset I-formation straight out of the 1990s. This is a power-running formation. It invites players up into the box to stack against the run, and even though the wide receivers are quite tight to the formation, it leaves them essentially one-on-one in space against a cornerback. When you look at the play pre-snap, it doesn’t look like there’s much space for Jones (split to the left) to work in, but the reason that isn’t true is because the Falcons are about to force eight guys to defend the run.

Instead of relying simply on play-action fakes, the Falcons are running a play which is both a run and pass at the same time. These “packaged plays” are run plays with a built-in route by the wide receiver, usually on the back side of the play. The offensive line, tight end, fullback and running back are all expecting run, while the quarterback has the option to hand it off or to hit the receiver running a pattern if he likes that read. In this way, the offense doesn’t simply “fake” the defense out, but actually moves it around by forcing it to defend what nine players on offense are legitimately running.

With most of the offense flowing to the right the defense scrambles to get in position to stop the run, streaming to the same side and opening up the space for Jones to run into. He runs a quick slant against Nolan Carroll, beating him immediately to the inside, catching the pass in the space that two seconds ago had been crowded with linebackers, and getting 17 yards downfield before Carroll can make the ground back up and make the tackle.

What looked pre-snap like it should have been a tough space to work in for Jones was suddenly transformed into a one-on-one situation in space by the packaged play Atlanta ran.

The entire offense is designed around opening up space for receivers to make big plays downfield. The old thought process was that you needed to have success on the ground to suck up defenders and then hit them over the top in the passing game, but Shanahan has shown that the running game doesn’t even need to be that successful to have the same effect, and the aim is really only to use it to manipulate a defense, moving players around to create the big passing plays that really blow a team apart.
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https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/09/17/julio-jones-is-about-to-have-a-monster-season/
 
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zychi

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Wellington said:
I think this is pretty damning:



I understand the thinking on a few levels - Protect Peyton, put less pressure on him to perform, and Elway himself didn't win the SB until he had Davis on that run game. Kubiak is a Shanahan disciple and was actually Elways backup.

The writer also makes interesting points about switching over to the old Indy offense. That does beg a question tho - does Peyton Manning become ***PEYTON MANNING*** without Tom Moore?

Nice to actually get some football discussion in the NFL thread.



We will be seeing a lot of Julio highlights tomorrow.
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Didnt read the article so this may be in there:

Elway and Kubes are also bffs irl and Kubes actually coached Elway as an OC at one point.

Itll be interesting to see how Den acts if Kubes blows it this year. Does Elway fire Kubes, or does Elway go down with the eventual sinking ship old Man Manning and Kubes will make?
 
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Wellington

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FloydtheFathead said:
That is what I mean (Amukamara was great at Arkansas) I agree with you that I wanna see Beasley develop more.
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I was impressed with what I saw from him against Peters so I want to see more. I cut my cable so I wasn't able to rewind anything from Monday night since I was watching on SlingTV.

zychi said:
Didnt read the article so this may be in there:

Elway and Kubes are also bffs irl and Kubes actually coached Elway as an OC at one point.

Itll be interesting to see how Den acts if Kubes blows it this year. Does Elway fire Kubes, or does Elway go down with the eventual sinking ship old Man Manning and Kubes will make?
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I would have to assume this is Peyton's final year.
 
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Quazar

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Starting to rethink my Drew Bree's pick. He threw three INT in both of his last two outings with TB. didn't TB lose a lot of secondary though?
 
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Quazar said:
Starting to rethink my Drew Bree's pick. He threw three INT in both of his last two outings with TB. didn't TB lose a lot of secondary though?
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What?

They're rolling out the exact same garbage out there - only except being Goldson is out of the safety rotation, but both Wright and Mcdougald were playing safety last season.
 
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Dega

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Someone mentioned egg on pizza yesterday and i took it as a joke. Just saw some chick on tv make a pizza then add sunny side eggs on it though.

I dunno about this country anymore.
 
Goro Majima

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Dega said:
Nutella, cheese, and walnut pizza. ..

I think this might be spins wife.
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spin pls

Just googled that combination and this thread is already on the second page of results. Also didn't find the recipe at all.

Definitely a spindasher creation
 
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Falcons might go with Freeman a good bit this week. (Last year 4 carries for 9.5 avg against Giants, will split carries) I think Giants will try to be run heavy, as this has been proven to work against Falcons, which they did successfully last time they played. Julio will beast. Beckham? Who knows?
 
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AbortedWalrusFetus said:
They were too busy making Phantom calls that game, but that particular one probably would have changed the outcome of the game. Kendricks easily makes that tackle if not held, too.
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yankeehater said:
jnc at bragging about shit like this.



Oh I am not. Vegas really needed the Eagles to not cover.
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5 days later, and you guys are that sensitive about a simple gif?

Come on.


Certain people like Pepiope were talking shit the entire week and saying how the Falcons had no chance against the Eagles, yet I kept my mouth shut and let the game play itself out. Made it that much more satisfying.
 
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Dega said:
Every person here is the best.
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Especially you Dega.

MRSA said:
Good morning friends and Pats fans.

Can we all get along for once?
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Are you okay?

RBH said:
5 days later, and you guys are that sensitive about a simple gif?

Come on.


Certain people like Pepiope were talking shit the entire week and saying how the Falcons had no chance against the Eagles, yet I kept my mouth shut and let the game play itself out. Made it that much more satisfying.
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Agreed.
 
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RBH said:
5 days later, and you guys are that sensitive about a simple gif?

Come on.


Certain people like Pepiope were talking shit the entire week and saying how the Falcons had no chance against the Eagles, yet I kept my mouth shut and let the game play itself out. Made it that much more satisfying.
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As I said, Falcons deserved the win. You can't understand how a ten yard hold going uncalled on a game changing play is frustrating though?
 
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Wow, Luck has better tackling technique than most of the defense.

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Observe how he doesn't cheaply aim to take out the ball carrier's legs and uses his arms to finish.
 
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Zvonimir Boban

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Spinluck said:
Wow, Luck has better tackling technique than most of the defense.

http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/luckdive.gif?w=650

Observe how he doesn't cheaply aim to take out the ball carrier's legs and uses his arms to finish.
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A) It's not a tackle if the guy hasn't got the ball.

B) It's terrible technique, observe how he just dives headfirst into the guys hip, snapping his own head back and risking injury to himself like a fool.
 
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RBH said:
5 days later, and you guys are that sensitive about a simple gif?

Come on.


Certain people like Pepiope were talking shit the entire week and saying how the Falcons had no chance against the Eagles, yet I kept my mouth shut and let the game play itself out. Made it that much more satisfying.
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Ill talk shit every week :).

Fuck the Falcons!
 
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Spinluck said:
Wow, Luck has better tackling technique than most of the defense.

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Observe how he doesn't cheaply aim to take out the ball carrier's legs and uses his arms to finish.
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Every high school football coach who watched FNL in the last seven years said "oh shit I better teach my QB how to tackle."
 
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