Most companies want it to look like they aren't making a profit. It boggles my mind when people say stuff like, "SONY IS LOSING MONEY!" Well, yeah, their accountants made it look that way but kept the books legal.
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NFL 2015 Week 5 |OT| - A Frauds Hankering for Some Bites
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Most companies want it to look like they aren't making a profit. It boggles my mind when people say stuff like, "SONY IS LOSING MONEY!" Well, yeah, their accountants made it look that way but kept the books legal.
That's not really quite as true for publicly traded companies. They want to show modest growth to keep the stock price up. Traditional companies anyway. The difference is Amazon really isn't making a real profit, and that's sort of their point. Free cash flow is their king. Though, with their increasing dip into making stuff it seems like that is changing. Maybe they actually want to be profitable so
On track to join Luck.
Maybe they can text on the sidelines during games after their O-lines get them killed!
Ghost texting
Wouldn't you want a slight dip down of your stock price when your reports come out? More people would invest at a lower price. People aren't throwing money at Apple stock because it's super high, but smart investors would throw money at well-known companies that had their stock slightly drop.
I"m not saying like when GM or Ford plummeted, but if Sony's stock goes down 5 points, and people know the brand, they might invest their money into the company over a more expensive stock.
There's obviously more to it than that, but like I said, I always laugh at posts on this forum that companies are failing when you don't get the entire picture of how they are ran.
NPR knows what a sports ball is?
He just might if changes aren't made.
Radio is suggesting there is no accountability with the OL - our starting C is learning the position on the job (he played DL in college), and we've got a guy on the bench who played C in college AND was the starting center for multiple 100+ yard rushing games last season for us.
Everyone else is struggling too.
FloydtheFathead
Member
Afternoon Respect. How are you doing? S.S.D.D?
PhoenixDark
Banned
Hate seeing people fall for that shit but hey...can't say they aren't good at what they do. And what they do is bullshit. And if you listen to sports radio a lot you'll realize just how prominent that "good cop/bad cop" shit is.
"Aaron Rodgers is the most overrated QB of all time. GB would be better with Tebow"
"No, Aaron Rodgers is amazing and Tebow isn't an NFL QB"
Random minority female co-host: "Ok...let's see who social media agrees with"
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Not to pick on you but what are you expecting him to say in the press conference?
It amazes me how irate fans get over the things said in a mandatory action for coaches.
It amazed me the past 2 seasons how teams just let Russell flow out to the right to make passes. Now it seems teams are coached to rush up the field then contain. He's gonna take a lot more hits this season.
No because no one gives a fuck about those trend buyers. You want to keep institutional investors happy, and they give no fucks about anything other than quarterlies.
Your last point is spot on though.
Didn't they have a really good starting center last year? Why don't they just put him in the lineup?
Those institutional investors arent going anywhere when a stock that is 35 today drops to 30 because of the quarterly/yearly reports. They're going to abandon ship when a scandal breaks out, or the stock goes from 35 to 5.
Yep. He'll still make a miraculous escape or two, but he won't run free all the time anymore.
Because Harvin worked out great, why not get Harvin 2.0?!
Right back at you with a link.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/cf?s=AMZN+Cash+Flow&annual
Free cash flow includes amazon's new borrowings. Basically they have a very small positive cash flow that they make much larger by borrowing more money. Notice the year 2013 when they didn't increase their net borrowing they only generated 1.2 billion in cash flow, for a company with a current market cap of 251 billion that is pathetic. Even if you just look at operating cash flow it is a pathetic 6 billion in 2014 for its market cap size. For comparison, Walmart generates 28 billion in operating cash flow and has a smaller market cap.
I'll admit they do generate small amounts of positive cash flow, I was wrong about the negative part.
Like I said, amzn business model is revenue growth/churn => higher stock price => obtain more financing to fund revenue growth, not cash flow or profits.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
IND @ HOU Houston since Colts suck this year
BUF @ TEN Mariotas got this!
CLE @ BAL Joe Flacco to the rescue!
CHI @ KC Jay Cutler will suck this game as always
SEA @ CIN Not Prime Time so Bengals win
STL @ GB Rodgers gonna be Rodgers
JAC @ TB Winston sucks.....
NO @ PHI Eagles also look sucky
WAS @ ATL Falcons on a hot streak and theyll probably beat the redskins easily.
ARI @ DET Lions HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NE @ DAL In Tom Brady we trust
DEN @ OAK Surprise upset
SF @ NYG Eli's got this!
PIT @ SD Rivers is good enough to win it plus no Big benny boy.
BUF @ TEN Mariotas got this!
CLE @ BAL Joe Flacco to the rescue!
CHI @ KC Jay Cutler will suck this game as always
SEA @ CIN Not Prime Time so Bengals win
STL @ GB Rodgers gonna be Rodgers
JAC @ TB Winston sucks.....
NO @ PHI Eagles also look sucky
WAS @ ATL Falcons on a hot streak and theyll probably beat the redskins easily.
ARI @ DET Lions HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
NE @ DAL In Tom Brady we trust
DEN @ OAK Surprise upset
SF @ NYG Eli's got this!
PIT @ SD Rivers is good enough to win it plus no Big benny boy.
Nah, computer models are more sensitive than that but yeah, that's my point. The real money isn't going anywhere based on minor stock price manipulation over a short period. There are like no arbitrage opportunities anymore.
I'm sort of anxious to see what happens when the automated investment sites hit critical mass. Playing around with some of them, you can force somewhat volatile transaction behavior. If enough people get super aggressive with betterment et. al, it could make for some fun times short term and bring back arbitrage!
Wal Mart has no significant R/D or manufacturing costs. Amazon makes shit now, remember. Which means they have assets beyond inventory and dirt.
PhoenixDark
Banned
You're right, fans shouldn't expect much. I went in knowing he wouldn't use the refs as an excuse. But telling players not to discuss it and refusing to do so himself...laughable. But the worst thing is the nonsense about us not being in a hurry up offense at the end of the game. NFL coaches tend to treat media and fans like shit in terms of assuming they don't know anything...but this was beyond the pale for me.
The offense looks like utter shit in every game until the end when we're either in hurry up against a prevent defense (ie when the game is already lost), or in hurry up in order to win (like last night).
I am the Pick'em master
Of course Belichick knows the rules. He's always ahead of the refs because he knows the book better than they do
He's a scrambler so they prob figured he doesn't need an O line
Yes, but if I compare them to tech industry peers amazon looks even worse. Walmart is a more favorable comparison.
Though betting against amazon is a widowmaker trade, the fundamentals on amazon have looked like shit from the beginning but the company still exists and everyone who has bet against it has been destroyed.
Yeah they have eaten a lot of R/D costs the past 5 years. Hurts the ol Scrooge Money Silo
Willie McGinest said he had never heard of the rule.
Of course Belichick knows the rules. He's always ahead of the refs because he knows the book better than they do
Willie McGinest said he had never heard of the rule.
Well - they were talking to one of the founders and he was talking about how it is in its infancy "to use a baseball term, we're just in the first inning here" or something along those lines.
Always, but not complaining...except the wife has strep throat and just told me not to drink from the milk that is open (of which I already have already had today)...oh well.
Hope things are going well for you friend.
It doesn't seem like a recent rule change, but Bill has probably changed how he coaches over the years. Could be a lot more rough when Willie played
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I just want the Feds to give us our online poker back. Doing it on a state-by-state basis won't help since it segregates the player pool. If you're gonna loophole in fantasy sports, get poker there at least as well.
CrocMother
Banned
Lions got completely hosed. I joked about the PI penalty the fans all cried about in the playoffs last year but that was with 6 minutes left. This was the last play of the game at the goal line. It's not even subjective like a PI penalty, either. It was obvious to everyone that the defender intentionally swatted the ball out of bounds.
Every play needs to be reviewable, with reviews being instigated by a cohort of rules experts watching the game, not just the officials on the field.
How much longer until the NFL and TV broadcasters get a hold of technology which detects penalties on every play? 10-15 years, if that? Whoever develops that is rich. Once that technology exists, how could the NFL not use it? And at that point who needs the refs on the field at all?
I don't think that they are an integral part of the culture, just a necessary part. Once they aren't necessary, dump em.
Every play needs to be reviewable, with reviews being instigated by a cohort of rules experts watching the game, not just the officials on the field.
How much longer until the NFL and TV broadcasters get a hold of technology which detects penalties on every play? 10-15 years, if that? Whoever develops that is rich. Once that technology exists, how could the NFL not use it? And at that point who needs the refs on the field at all?
I don't think that they are an integral part of the culture, just a necessary part. Once they aren't necessary, dump em.
He's been a good DC wherever he's gone but okay, whatever you say.
PhoenixDark
Banned
IND @ HOU - another exciting TNF matchup!
BUF @ TEN
CLE @ BAL
CHI @ KC
SEA @ CIN
STL @ GB
JAC @ TB
NO @ PHI
WAS @ ATL
ARI @ DET - Our season will officially be over
NE @ DAL
DEN @ OAK
SF @ NYG
PIT @ SD
BUF @ TEN
CLE @ BAL
CHI @ KC
SEA @ CIN
STL @ GB
JAC @ TB
NO @ PHI
WAS @ ATL
ARI @ DET - Our season will officially be over
NE @ DAL
DEN @ OAK
SF @ NYG
PIT @ SD
HarryDemeanor
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FloydtheFathead
Member
Goin fine at the moment thank you.
Why would your wife care if you drank from the milk if she has strep?
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/09/28/jim-brown-cleveland-browns-hall-of-fame-nfl-greatness
Longer article on Jim Brown, including a longer bit with Bill Belichick.
Longer article on Jim Brown, including a longer bit with Bill Belichick.
Himynameischris
Member
That Thanksgiving game should be interesting
HarryDemeanor
Member
Denver is a great place to spend the rest of your football career, Andrew.
Just give Uncle John a call.
Just give Uncle John a call.
DrForester
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Dude your best player
dropped the ball, come on.
Just because Johnson screwed up doesn't mean it shouldn't be pointed out that Detroit should have kept possession had it not been for an incompetent ref.
CrocMother
Banned
Yeah he fucked up but then his fuck up was superseded by Seattle's.
Not a Lions fan btw
FloydtheFathead
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Himynameischris
Member
Friend pls, I'll be ready this week!
FloydtheFathead
Member
Sure, with your team led by Cutler or Jameis Winston. You can always trade for Fatford. Hmm
Tannehill isn't inspiring right now and Romo is crippled so those are your options.
Himynameischris
Member
Sure, with your team led by Cutler or Jameis Winston. You can always trade for Fatford. Hmm
Tannehill isn't inspiring right now and Romo is crippled so those are your options.
I put in a claim for Cutler, but things are very dire even with Brown, he has Vick throwing to him :/ and Tannehill is on Bye anyways so this might be an easy win for you
I don't understand why, for major penalties only, the NFL doesn't allow reviews to happen. Penalties like the full pass interference, the one from last night, shit that effects the outcome of a game. Not talking about a random holding penalty or whatnot.
And it's not like it's complicated. You have rule experts in some NFL office watching replays. They call the ref, overturn penalty. Done. Less than a 5 minute process.
And it's not like it's complicated. You have rule experts in some NFL office watching replays. They call the ref, overturn penalty. Done. Less than a 5 minute process.
FloydtheFathead
Member
I put in a claim for Cutler, but things are very dire even with Brown, he has Vick throwing to him :/ and Tannehill is on Bye anyways so this might be an easy win for you
I need to rebound after losing to PD. But, I am hoping that I get a claim on Hillman which I doubt because I am seventh on the wire.
Just accept Fatford into your heart and give me something good for him.