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[DeaconKnowledge]

Coach isn't the problem.

GM is. But the Giant's have only had 3 gm's since 1979 (Young/Accorsi/Reese).

Specifically, the Giant's have been shit since Gettleman went to Carolina, and we repalced him with Marc Ross.

I only included Coughlin because of the Lebeau dilemma. Coughlin is the oldest coach in the league. If this Giants team requires a full rebuild is Coughlin going to want to steer the ship through that?

As for your comment, does Reese not handle personnel? I'm not as familiar with the Giants hierarchy as you obviously.

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

The league needs to stop allowing Bill to bring his own coin.

Halo time

 

[Draxal]

I only included Coughlin because of the Lebeau dilemma. Coughlin is the oldest coach in the league. If this Giants team requires a full rebuild is Coughlin going to want to steer the ship through that?

As for your comment, does Reese not handle personnel? I'm not as familiar with the Giants hierarchy as you obviously.

FWIH, Reese handles free agency and the first round and they've done well there.. They delegate the drafting of the later rounds to Ross ... and that's where the Giants have struggled heavily.

 

[Sanjuro]

I called into sports radio to talk about chow mein sandwich.

Hot stove topics today!

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

FWIH, Reese handles free agency and the first round and they've done well there.. They delegate the drafting of the later rounds to Ross ... and that's where the Giants have struggled heavily.

Seems clumsy.

 

[Dega]

I called into sports radio to talk about chow mein sandwich.

Hot stove topics today!

What they say?

 

[jakncoke]

What they say?

Asked him how many sam adams does it take to think thats a sandwich

 

[sf2fanatic]

Race to tank, but there can only be one tank.

Titans blew their tank spot by Firing Ken. Now they want to focus on the division. Lol too late

 

[Sanjuro]

What they say?

The discussion began as what is a sandwich in regards to hot dogs, hamburgers. They brought up RI wieners as well, so they just kind of acknowledged it as a sandwich.

 

[xnipx]

Flacco sucks. Look at what the Rats have become without a dominant defense backing them. The Ravens have scored 190 points this season - Justin Tucker accounts for 74 of them.

So Flacco sucks because his only offensive threat was 35 year old Steve Smith? Great analysis there. Especially considering the steelers have only scored 168.

Spoiler

Go ahead and bring up the injury excuse like they don't affect every team

 

[eznark]

WOAH LIONS

 

[jbug617]

Lions house cleaning begins.

@AdamSchefter: MAJOR changes in Detroit: Lions have fired GM Martin Mayhew and president Tom Lewand, league sources told ESPN.

 

[DMczaf]

Kas....roar if you're ok...

 

[jakncoke]

lol lions. will they finally restore in 2019

 

[Futurevoid]

According to Giants' fans the team has next to no talent on defense with little in the pipeline, has had two back to back awful seasons (and is currently at .500 now) yet still has the same coach and GM?

Little in the pipeline is a little definitive. We have developing young DT's and a new safety who has a bright future. Big Hank is a good piece on the defensive line but he needs help. LInebacker is a lost cause for Giants fans. We haven't prioritized the position for years and we'll have to keep hoping that the 5th round picks we use on them work out as well as Kennard has and even then he's young and developing. We need pass rushers. We just IR'd Owa so there goes a promising rookie season.

Jerry Reese isn't going anywhere. Marc Ross and the scouting department? Yeah. Possibly there's a shake-up going to happen there is the near future but Rome wasn't built in a day. Ross is the VP of college scouting and player evaluation. Reese has a had in the process (primarily in the first round as Draxal noted) but Ross is primarily in charge of the process.

All of that having been said, we've gotten 7 starters out of the last 3 drafts. A vast majority of that has been on the offensive side of the ball (specifically at WR and OL). I mean, its hard to just wave that away and act like there's been no progress.

The Giants needs a good solid defensive draft or two under their belts for better or worse. Rebuilding the line has been the focus the last 2-3 years. The Osi's, Tucks and Strahan's of the world are long gone and we haven't replaced them yet. The one difference maker blew up his hand in the offseason.

I only included Coughlin because of the Lebeau dilemma. Coughlin is the oldest coach in the league. If this Giants team requires a full rebuild is Coughlin going to want to steer the ship through that?

He's said he has no interest in retiring so sure. Why not? If you get rid of Coughlin you're pretty much blowing the team up at that point for better or worse. There are arguments to be had for both of those scenarios playing out.

Lions house cleaning begins.

Wow!

 

[Draxal]

Wow.

 

[sf2fanatic]

Lions house cleaning begins.

I wish this was a Titans cleaning house. But i'm sure Amy might do so soon.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

DAMN. Is it common for a GM and president to get fired mid-season? My gut says it rarely happens if ever.

 

[Bread]

Halo time

class time

i'll be on soon though

 

[yankeehater]

Damn that is great news for Lions fans. Just need to bite the bullet and cut Fattford in the offseason.

 

[Line_HTX]

I called into sports radio to talk about chow mein sandwich.

Hot stove topics today!

You must be bored out of your damn mind to call in.

 

[xnipx]

Larry your hate for Flacco is unjust. The defense wasn't playing all world the year we went to the superbowl, we almost gave up the game winning drive against the 49ers if not for Jimmy's no-call on Crabbie.

His 2 losses against the pats came off a Lee Evans Drop/Billy Cundiff chipshot miss and Torrey Smith giving up on a ball after the defense gave up TWO 14 point leads.

Playoff Flacco is real. No sane GM is letting his super bowl winning QB walk in this climate. QB's get paid, that's just how the game is. Time to stop complaining about it. Luck is gonna get paid too.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

DAMN. Is it common for a GM and president to get fired mid-season? My gut says it rarely happens if ever.

This is the earliest a team president has ever been fired in a season

 

[Eleuin]

Martha ford isn't messing around, wow

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

So Flacco sucks because his only offensive threat was 35 year old Steve Smith? Great analysis there. Especially considering the steelers have only scored 168.

Spoiler

Go ahead and bring up the injury excuse like they don't affect every team

An Injury to your starting QB is not a good excuse? Haha okay.

 

[darkside31337]

Why didn't they just fire Caldwell while they were at it today? Feel bad for him, couldn't possibly be in a more dead man walking state.

 

[Sanjuro]

You must be bored out of your damn mind to call in.

I was bored out of my mind. Was waiting on guy to look at my car. Wasted a handful of minutes successfully!

Now I have more coffee. It's a great day. Like summer outside.

 

[Kave_Man]

Kave's Twitter is boring. Mean streets of Canada lol.

You don't want to be on these streets brah.

But yeah my twitter isn't exciting. I tweet in spurts usually then go quiet for a week.

 

[xnipx]

An Injury to your starting QB is not a good excuse? Haha okay.

So is an injury to your starting TE and 1st round WR. Ravens rank 10th in points scored. The offense is not the problem with this team.

 

[ActStriker]

Why didn't they just fire Caldwell while they were at it today? Feel bad for him, couldn't possibly be in a more dead man walking state.

So they can promote another guy who's gonna be in that state?

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Half measures. Firing the President and GM and not the coach is stupid.

So is an injury to your starting TE and 1st round WR. Ravens rank 10th in points scored. The offense is not the problem with this team.

You mean your ROOKIE WR? You don't think there is a problem with expecting a first round rookie to start, especially on a team that has NEVER shown any proclivity towards drafting talented Wide Receivers?

Rats offense has always been mediocre at best. Flacco's problem is that there's nobody on the field fast enough to gift him Pass Interference calls anymore.

 

[Godslay]

You don't want to be on these streets brah.

But yeah my twitter isn't exciting. I tweet in spurts usually then go quiet for a week.

What is your Twitter handle?

 

[Farooq]

I hope Will McClay isn't a name that gets thrown around. Hopefully they pluck someone from the Wolf/Thompson tree.

 

[jbug617]

Crazy day in Detroit. Caldwell might be hiding in his office.

@RapSheet: #Lions source on the firings today: “Total wipeout.” Apparently, bosses are going through the building deciding who stays and goes.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

@RapSheet
#Lions source on the firings today: “Total wipeout.” Apparently, bosses are going through the building deciding who stays and goes.

 

[eznark]

Why would they keep Caldwell?

 

[yankeehater]

Why would they keep Caldwell?

Maybe to make sure they get the top pick in the draft. Plus who are you gonna get in there for the rest of the year, Jim Bob Cooter?

 

[jbug617]

Why would they keep Caldwell?

I think just to finish the season. You fire him the next day after the season ends.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

No wonder Caldwell's safe. Going through the building looking at people deciding who stays and who goes leads you to miss him entirely because he blends in with the furniture

 

[chuckddd]

You let the new crew decide on the coach. Caldwell is almost definitely gone depending on who they bring in to run the show, but hey, maybe they bring in Dungy as President/GM.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Half measures. Firing the President and GM and not the coach is stupid.

I mean... who cares? He's gone at the end of the season either way. I don't know why you fire a President and GM mid-season, though. Why not wait until the season ends?

 

[rando14]

Wow, that Fallout trailer!!

Wow, that Loins news!!

Hnnng my CHEST *grabs Bread's arm for support

 

[Kave_Man]

What is your Twitter handle?

@keonbrown

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I mean... who cares? He's gone at the end of the season either way. I don't know why you fire a President and GM mid-season, though. Why not wait until the season ends?

If they didn't care why fire anyone at all?

 

[Farooq]

Why would they keep Caldwell?

My guess would be stability? They need to hire the new FO before any new coaches anyway right?

 

[Dega]

Wow, that Fallout trailer!!

Wow, that Loins news!!

Hnnng my CHEST *grabs Bread's arm for support

Bread has no arms

 

[CitizenCope]

I called into sports radio to talk about chow mein sandwich.

Hot stove topics today!

Hot dog is not a sandwich.

 

[rando14]

@keonbrown

:jnc

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

My guess would be stability? They need to hire the new FO before any new coaches anyway right?

My guess is that they still want people buying tickets to the game. Cleaning out the whole Front Office loudly declares that they've given up on the season.

 

[Mudcrab]

@RapSheet
#Lions source on the firings today: “Total wipeout.” Apparently, bosses are going through the building deciding who stays and goes.

Holy shit. Lion's staffers be hiding under their desks.