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NFL 2016 Offseason Thread |OT3| - With the 29th pick of the 2016 NFL draft...

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Syrinx

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Bucs take Ronnie Stanley.

I really read without a magnifying glass so I'm not typing some long explanation.just say Donovan Smith sucks.
 
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chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
Trejo visits the seashore.

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Hindl

Member
gutshot said:
Apparently Les didn't have the full story here. He thought the rumor said the deal was "done" and that is what he asked his source. Les said it's possible the deal could be "close" though, which is what BR actually reported.
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Ah alright thanks my apologies. If true that would be great, $52M guaranteed was less than I was expecting
 
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PanicFreak

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Godslay said:
I fell into that trap the other day when someone on Reddit posted that Manning 1st down run against the Pats.
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Did you buy the NFL Films documentary? I'm really considering the bluray version but I would rather pick it up digitally on Amazon. For some reason, it seems to be exclusive to iTunes? WHY?
 
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Godslay

Banned
PanicFreak said:
Did you buy the NFL Films documentary? I'm really considering the bluray version but I would rather pick it up digitally on Amazon. For some reason, it seems to be exclusive to iTunes? WHY?
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I've only bought a hat, a banner, some newspapers, and a Von World Champs print from the Denver Post. I thought about buying the doc, haven't bit yet.

I'm going on the stadium tour when I'm in town on Saturday, so I'll probably get some more junk.
 
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Futurevoid

Member
Updated Mock:

1. Los Angeles Rams - Carson Wentz - QB - Himynameischris - Wentz has the size and strengths that NFL teams look for in a QB, he's got a big arm and he's athletic too. However on the field he's got a lot of work to do, He's got very sloppy footwork and he'd succeed in an offense that would limit his throws to the short/Intermediate routes, at least until he works on his deep ball accuracy. Surrounded by a strong run game that features Gurly and a good defense might be enough to help Wentz learn on the job.

Fantomex - With the first pick in the 2016 NFL Draft, The Los Angeles Rams select Carston Wentz from the University of North Dakota State. A two year starter (Hi Tannehill!) who went 20-3. Raised in an under center offense, pro style reads and standard progressions. His lack of big name competition seems to be one of the big knocks. But he has good arm strength, great reads, pocket presence and decent footwork in the pocket. He also possesses great athleticism, doing better in the shuttle than even some Cornerbacks in this years draft combine. Carson Wentz seems to have all the tools to be an NFL starter and learn on the go in 2016. Wether it’s Jon Gruden, Mike Mayock, Ron Jaworski, or Trent Dilfer, they all seem to be head over heels for this guy the more they talk with him, draw up plays and go over film together. Jon Gruden called him “the most NFL ready QB to come out of the draft in years”. Most analysts compare him to Troy Aikman, based on arm strength, pocket presence and footwork. I vehemently disagree on the pocket presence, he seems to be sorely lacking this trait. The Los Angeles Rams now in their new market, hope to make a splash. They have decided to bet big on Wentz, by trading with the Tennesse Titans to move up from #15 to #1 in this years draft. The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016) third-round pick (2016), first-round pick (2017), third-round pick (2017).Rams get: Titans' first-overall pick (2016), fourth-round pick (2016), sixth-round pick (2016).

2. Cleveland Browns - Jared Goff - QB - FloydtheFathead - With the 2nd pick in the Draft. The Cleveland Browns select Jared Goff, QB from the University of Cal. Now personally, I think the Browns will trade down because Wentz is not available and I don't know if they are that sold on Jared. But for now, they'll take Jared Goff who will lead Cleveland to the Promised Land.

He's got good size. But needs to bulk up and has decent arm strength and vision and works through progressions and not just quick to dump off to the hot read.

He isn't as accurate from deep as other QBs and has played in the Spread rather than a pro style offense. But he performed well and set dozens of school records and I think Hue will develop him on the bench while RG3 hopefully stays healthy and might surprise us with a new version of himself somehow.

3. San Diego Chargers - Jalen Ramsey, DB - Bread - My San Diego Chargers select the next Deion Sanders, the next Malcolm Hero Butler, DB Jalen Ramsey.

My Chargers need a playmaker to replace old friend Eric Waddle. Ramsey should provide ball hawking skills and leadership. Bolt up or something I don't know what do we say? Save our bolts!

4. Dallas Cowboys - Laremy Tunsil, OT - CrocMother - There was discussion amongst Cowboys-GAF about Bosa and Zeke, but in the end neither were deemed worthy of such a high pick. There are reports the FO aren't fans of Bosa, and it's pretty clear that they don't have a lot of confidence in Myles Jack's knee.

Tunsil is 6'5", extremely athletic and widely regarded as the all-around best player in the draft. While the Cowboys obviously have no pressing need at OLine right now, Tunsil could significantly lower their cap hit in the coming future when their current studs' contracts come up.

There's also the possibility that Tunsil could be packaged in some sort of trade deal.

Either way, worst case scenario the Cowboys have one of the most dominant OLines of all time secured for years to come.

5. Jacksonville Jaguars - DeForest Buckner, DE - Dutch Patriot - The keyword voor the Jacksonville Jaguars this upcoming draft seems to be defence. The team is lacking some talent overall, but with Bortles at the helm, the offense could play well enough that with a good defense they can actually win games and hell, maybe even challenge for the AFC South title.

Looking at the stats, they ranked 31st in overall scoring defence, 29th in defending the pass and 15th in defending the run. They added some bodies on defence, including a rather big one in DT Malik Jackson, the lead actor from Coming to America at CB and Donte Fowler for the first time really joining the team after his injury last year.

Ramsey would probably be ideal, but just as in our draft, I assume he'll be gone before the Jags pick. Thus that leaves us with a few options: Joey Bosa, Myles Jack and DeForest Buckner. At first Jack seemed like no-brainer here, however, the injury news (smokescreens?) with regard to his knee has thrown me a bit of a curveball, so I think they might pass on him, since long-term talent will be crucial for the up-and-coming Jags. This also eliminates Bosa, who looks like a fuck-up waiting to happen.

6. Baltimore Ravens - Myles Jack, LB - Baltimore Larry - Simply put, he's the best player available, and that's what Ozzie Newsome does. If Jack does fall to six, the Ravens will happily grab him, where he looks to be an impact player from day one (if healthy). Pair him with CJ Mosely, Brandon Williams, and Jimmy Smith, giving the Ravens a nice nucleus. Adding Jack would immediately improve the defense, and despite the injury, there's too much talent to pass on here.

7. San Francisco 49'ers - Joey Bosa, DE - bigosc2k - 2015 the 49ers had an abysmal season on both sides of the ball. Figures 49ers would go defense in the first round towards the front 7 to get pressure towards the QB. Joey Bosa is the type of pass rusher this team needs to get back to their winning ways.

8. Philadephia Eagles - Vernon Hargreaves III, CB - Hindl - Despite the final tally, early in the season, the Eagles defense was playing very well. There's talent at all 3 levels of the defense that was being squandered by Billy Davis' terrible schemes and Chip Kelly's fast-paced offense going 3 and out all the time. The addition of Jim Schwartz should bring back the hard-hitting Philly Defense that's been missing since the passing of Jim Johnson. Between new players brought in to fit the scheme and as several of the Eagles' young stars already a better fit for the 4-3, this should be a formidable defense. One big weakness, however, is the CB position. Eric Rowe had a promising rookie season, and hopefully can build on that to become a top tier CB in the coming years. However, opposite him are a bunch of guys that are just ok. Pairing Rowe with another young star could push the defense over the edge. Enter Vernon Hargreaves.

Hargreaves has good instinct and is an aggressive defender. He can jam at the line and fight off defended balls. Occasionally Hargreaves will be too aggressive and will either be be baited by a smart QB or lose a step against great route runners. However, this should be balanced by his ball hawk nature causing plenty of turnovers and passes defended. Hargreaves reminds me of Asante Samuel, and him and Rowe should have the CB position locked down for years to come.

It was hard to decide between Hargreaves and Ezekiel Elliot, who could provide the lackluster Eagles offense with a weapon people would have to plan for. However, this is a team that needs a lot more talent than one guy on the offense. Meanwhile, adding another young piece to a young defense stocked with talent could push this team over the edge.

9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ronnie Stanley, OT - Syrinx - I really read without a magnifying glass so I'm not typing some long explanation.just say Donovan Smith sucks.
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Giants-GAF is on the clock. We have until 5pm. I'll wait to hear feedback. I know who I think we are picking.
 
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Dutch Gronk

Banned
She got a perfectly round butt.

Fascinating really.

I think the Giants should forfeit their pick on the ground of them being giant dream-crushing cunts.

Fuck you BigAT (where is he :((((( )
 
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BlackGhost

Banned
Dutch Patriot said:
She got a perfectly round butt.

Fascinating really.

I think the Giants should forfeit their pick on the ground of them being giant dream-crushing cunts.

Fuck you BigAT (where is he :((((( )
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Her legs look strong Enough for me to sit on her lap, that's a positive. #strongKnees
 
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AngmarsKing701

Member
Dutch Patriot said:
She got a perfectly round butt.

Fascinating really.

I think the Giants should forfeit their pick on the ground of them being giant dream-crushing cunts.

Fuck you BigAT (where is he :((((( )
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The Giants should have been granted the 1st overall pick for the remainder of the 21st century for their heroic actions in humanity-saving greatness.

The Pats should not be allowed another draft pick, ever, for their cheating douchebaggery.

Also, Russell Wilson should be dropped at the bottom of an ocean's worth of miracle water without scuba gear. I don't remember why. I think it has something to do with that year there wasn't a Super Bowl played because of all the deflation.
 
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VeryGooster

Banned
I know it's weird and hypocritical to say since I indulge in some childhood pop culture still, but today I learned people over the age of 12 still like anything Power Rangers.
 
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Striker

Member
Future, to me the choice comes down to Floyd or Conklin. And Reese seems super infatuated with Floyd and he's my guess to who he will pick. hitdog on BBI mentioned there's been no talk of Jack on his end (doesn't mean anything, but just an fyi) and kind of was hyping up the idea of Floyd being used as a playmaker on defense that can be used in a lot of ways due to the addition of Snacks.

And secretly hoping they trade for Anthony Davis with a late rd pick.
 
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Hindl

Member
CrocMother said:
anyone have espn insider access?

I'm curious as to what Mel Kipers' mock looks like

http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2016/insider/story/_/id/15189670/mock-draft-2016-nfl-draft
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Reddit does:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/4fhihj/mel_kiper_jrs_threeround_gradea_mock_draft/

The Cowboys one is complete bullshit:

Round 1 (4): Jalen Ramsey, DB, Florida State

Round 2 (34): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State

Round 3 (67): D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech

Analysis: The debate for me here is between Ramsey and Joey Bosa, and with both guys at what I consider need positions, it's a good time to trust the board. Ramsey is going to be special, and I love the addition of him and Byron Jones over a two-year stretch. Regarding Elliott, it's much better to take a running back at No. 34 than at No. 4. I know this isn't a realistic draft scenario, but it's a glimpse at how I'd draft at running back. In Round 3, I get a needed addition to the secondary. White has a chance to compete for a starting role in nickel packages early on.
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Zeke at 34? He even admits there's no chance of that
 
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Draxal

Member
I think the Giants will go with Zeke, they're not averse to drafting RBs in the first round (wilson), and Zeke is a game changer.
 
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CrocMother

Banned
Treadwell/OBJ combo could be pretty damn terrifying

Also of note, in that mock Lych falls to 37. If both Elliot and Lynch are available at 34 (barring any trade shenanigans), that would be an interesting choice for the Cowboys. Pretty obvious Now vs. Future decision.
 
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Draxal

Member
CrocMother said:
Treadwell/OBJ combo could be pretty damn terrifying

Also of note, in that mock Lych falls to 37. If both Elliot and Lynch are available at 34 (barring any trade shenanigans), that would be an interesting choice for the Cowboys. Pretty obvious Now vs. Future decision.
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Don't think Giants will go after Treadwell. They'll target someone like Tahj Boyd later on.
 
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Futurevoid

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I'm on the Floyd train. Where there is smoke, there's fire and I've said it before. I don't think the Giants take Zeke even if he's on the board (despite my being a-ok with drafting him) . Floyd is a versatile pass rusher which is what the Giants covet right now as they continue to remake a historically bad defense. His body type is a concern but I would imagine the team will want him to play in the 245-248 range and move him around the front seven (yes even with his hand in the dirt). He did alot of things for Georgia and that versatility is exactly what Reese and the FO crave and why I think they go for him.

I see an OT over Zeke as well.
 
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Spinluck

Member
MRSA said:
Got my third LASIK consult and so far I like this place a lot. Still expensive at $4600.
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Don't you have to go back once the treatment wears off?

Rather go through the trouble of glasses and contacts tbh.

Did you guys get you Force Awakens copies btw? I mailed them to my house.
 
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Striker

Member
CrocMother said:
If Odell is doubled/covered, who does Eli throw to? Shane Vereen?
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They're pushing a lot of hope in Victor Cruz and the lower depth guys like Dwayne Harris, Myles White, Geremy Davis, etc.

I hate the idea of even relying on the health of Vic, but that's evidently what they're doing. No real interest in FA for receivers was telling. I'm speculating they draft a guy in the 2nd or 3rd and he'll be competing for playing time pretty early, in my view. Rueben Randle was an addition by subtraction, fwiw.
 
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Euron

Member
In this situation, I personally would take Elliot but if we're doing what we think the Giants will actually do, Floyd would be my choice. Reese seems to really like him and we do need to upgrade our LB core. Just unsure of whether or not it's worth it at 10.

So yeah, my vote is Floyd despite wanting Elliot.
 
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Draxal

Member
CrocMother said:
If Odell is doubled/covered, who does Eli throw to? Shane Vereen?
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Well not Treadwell, his stock is dropping like a rock. Remember, this is the worst class of WRS since the 90s.

Futurevoid said:
I'm on the Floyd train. Where there is smoke, there's fire and I've said it before. I don't think the Giants take Zeke even if he's on the board (despite my being a-ok with drafting him) . Floyd is a versatile pass rusher which is what the Giants covet right now as they continue to remake a historically bad defense. His body type is a concern but I would imagine the team will want him to play in the 245-248 range and move him around the front seven (yes even with his hand in the dirt). He did alot of things for Georgia and that versatility is exactly what Reese and the FO crave and why I think they go for him.

I see an OT over Zeke as well.
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I'm not really sold on Floyd, after the last experiment with a 3/4 linebacker.
 
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tmdorsey

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MRSA said:
Got my third LASIK consult and so far I like this place a lot. Still expensive at $4600.
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You DO NOT want to go cheap on LASIK. I paid a little more than that when I had it done over 11 years ago and it was some of the best money spent. My vision just started changing in the last few years. I wear glasses now mainly for driving and watching tv at home, but I have a lifetime warranty that came with the Lasik, so I'm eligible for an enhancement procedure anytime I want.
 
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