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NFL 2017 Training Camp/Preseason |OT| - If you don't like it, you should have made it
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I'm failing to find the analysis here that leads to a vast majority of the losses he listed not being stafford's fault. In most of those losses Stafford's numbers aren't any better than what I'd expect out of a backup QB. Those stats hardly look good for a QB in the mid 90's, let alone a post Peyton-era QB, where everybody's finding ways to play uber efficiently and without making terrible mistakes.
In a lot of those losses the excuse seems to be "well why couldn't his defense keep the points down?". How can his defense keep up when he's throwing interceptions and keeping low completion rates and/or low YPA rates, likely giving the other team short fields to work with? And "his defense sucks" seems to be the response too often when playing teams like the Saints, who's defense also sucks. You can't go +1 TD vs ints and expect to beat a team like the Saints in their best years. Or even the past 3 years.
At the end of the day, his stats against losing record teams isn't even that good. A 2/1 TD/INT ratio is NOT good enough in the modern NFL. Brady threw 14/1 last year. Rodgers was like 7/1 in a year where he wasn't very good the first half of the year. Matt Ryan's ratio was 5/1 and, up until last year, nobody considered him markedly better than Stafford. Even in one of his most inefficient years, Brees threw better than 2/1. It's 2017, not 1997. Stafford's stats straight up aren't good enough. And his playoff stats are laughable. Even if his team is bad, he needs to be better than that.
We can sit here and play the "his teams sucked"/"it's a team game" card forever, but every great QB in the history of the league has elevated their team's play to be a contender for at least a few seasons. Stafford was a #1 overall pick. He currently lays claim to the biggest Contract in the league. He HAS had years where there was decent enough talent around him.
If Stafford was to have a more modest contract I would be willing to cut him some slack. But if you're going to get paid like you're the best player in the league, you better PROVE it. Stafford has done nothing to prove he's an elite QB. I'm not sure he's even top 10 in the league right now. You can't take up that big of a chunk of your team's salary cap and then throw your hands up and say "my teams not good enough to win!". If that's the case then you need to cut your salary in half so your team can fucking afford some better players.
Heard the number said during a press conference with the mayor and county judge.
Im good. Went back to work today finally. I got nothing (damage wise) in comparison to a lot in the Houston who lost almost everything. The fact that shelters in town today were turning down volunteers because they had too many makes me damn proud to be a Houstonian.
https://twitter.com/Browns/status/903392904089141249
We are now BFF s again BG
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Gregg Williams got a bounty on Trubisky from the looks of that hit
He's the guy I'd cut. Or try to trade for a late pick. I'd keep Burns, Haden, Sensabaugh, Gay, Hilton and Sutton. Maybe even keep Allen over Gay if Sutton shows he can play the slot.
I'd also keep Terrell Watson over Knile Davis and Fitzgerald Toussaint.
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BlackGhost
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Look what the boy did
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Mariota
Winston
Carr
Dak
Luck
Garoppolo if he winds up being the real deal
Teddy if he can come back and continue to progress
Those 6-7 guys all look like they'll be able to pick up the torch just fine.
All these guys will be under 30 by the time Brady/Brees/Ben/Rivers/Eli retire. Rodgers/Ryan will probably take over as the "olds that can still go" guys when they're gone, and guys like Russ/Cam/Stafford/Dalton/Tannehill/Cousins will still be early 30s, and I'm sure at least two of those last 4 will find a way to have a similar spike in play like Matt Ryan did last year. And this all isn't even counting some younger guys that look promising, like Wentz or Trubisky, who just haven't been around long enough yet to judge. Or how the incoming 2018 draft class has 4 guys in it that look like potential stars.
Honestly, it'll be just as good as any era has been. We're heavily spoiled right now because so many QBs are finding ways to stay healthy late into their careers. In previous eras we'd be talking about when guys like Rodgers/Ryan/Smith are gunna hang it up by now, but each one of them could be around another 5-7 years. But this will likely be the norm going forward, with QBs taking less hits and schemes being built around protecting them.
I'd rather watch Edmund do his thing than the 4th game of the preseason.
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lol
BlackGhost
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We haven't played the battle of Great Lakes for a few years sadly. Goodell hates ratings.
The Barge trophy is locked away
The Bucs are so fucked if Jameis goes down. They should have signed Kaep.
Is it in Cleveland or Detroit?
Canton.
BlackGhost
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BlackGhost
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I used to think Hogan was a poor mans Tebow..
But then I heard him talk about Game of Thrones s7 finale
Irsay on how long it will take for Luck to come back.
Its all about the 4 inches in his head.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/903433171450175488
Its all about the 4 inches in his head.
https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/903433171450175488
Nothing but good can come from an undefeated preseason!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season
Sweeney Tom
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Lions were too right before 0-16
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2-2, we doing the 8-8 dream bitches! The Jags are the real Browns!
BlackGhost
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You're not the Sweeney Bae I once knew :/
War has changed you
Brock for Allen Robinson straight up. This a deal, trust me. The best deal.
Nothing but good can come from an undefeated preseason!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Detroit_Lions_season
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Don't let those guys bringing up the Lions bring you down.Texans went 4-0 last year and we made the playoffs! BeCleve!
Sweeney Tom
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You called me a snake first, for the record!!!!
https://twitter.com/TexansCap/status/903442798950658049
Some quick thoughts on DeAndre Hopkins extension:
New Money APY of ~$14.61m is 2nd highest behind Antonio Brown, topping Julio Jones. (1/..)
Total guarantee of $49m would top all the WR's on the market. Dez Bryant was top at $45m.
Hard to compare this segment against Antonio Brown due to the way Pitt structures deals; providing virtual guarantees.
Nuk got the money
Some quick thoughts on DeAndre Hopkins extension:
New Money APY of ~$14.61m is 2nd highest behind Antonio Brown, topping Julio Jones. (1/..)
Total guarantee of $49m would top all the WR's on the market. Dez Bryant was top at $45m.
Hard to compare this segment against Antonio Brown due to the way Pitt structures deals; providing virtual guarantees.
Nuk got the money
BlackGhost
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You hit me with many micro aggressions.
I would like to reconcile.
Alligatorjandro
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The regular season is here
No Browns talk allowed
No Browns talk allowed
BlackGhost
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Haven't watched anything tonight, but if he got named numbered 2 id be at a lost ...
Maybe he really did it in this scenario
He's made some good throws but all these receivers are wide open
https://twitter.com/Browns/status/9...EARS-Rosters-Game-Thread-8pm-106706621?Page=5
Also I think it's time to start scouting the Ohio State RB
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