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NFL Divisional 2012 |OT| Schaubenfraud
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The_Darkest_Red
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AFC East Salary Cap situation:
I knew the Jets weren't in the best position cap wise but I had no idea it was that bad. That team really is going to look completely different next year. On the other hand, the Dolphins are in a great position.
Future PhaZe
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All Wilson has done is bulked more, that's something RGIII can easily do and guys tend to get stronger when they come into the league anyway. And if Wilson takes huge hits while scrambling his frame isn't going to help him. He's just been smarter.
He's definitely slimmer, but he's not Vick small. And yea, it's absolutely about getting down. He's taken big hits in the pocket all the year and literally none of them effected him. The hits that took him out where throwing his body forward for a 1st down and getting concussed as a result, and scrambling and not getting down properly and getting his knee blown out because of it.
Panthers have a pretty terrible cap situation. We're projected to be roughly $15m over the cap. I think we have a $4m-$5m cap carryover from this year, so we'll need to cut roughly $10m just to be in compliance with the cap. We may end up having to cut Chris Gamble as he gives us the most immediate cap relief (~$8m). Cutting and/or trading Jon Beason and DeAngelo Williams (at least prior to June 1st) is out of the question as their signing bonuses would accelerate and hit the cap immediately, $12m and $9.6m cap hits, respectively.
Bleh.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/69706/carolinas-nightmare-cap-situation
Bleh.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/69706/carolinas-nightmare-cap-situation
Oh hey, it's that guy who kept our HC seat warm.
The_Darkest_Red
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I was thinking about this earlier, has there ever been a QB as dynamic as Wilson/Vick/RGIII who has stayed mostly healthy throughout their career? I can't think of any off of the top of my head. Obviously this style of QB wasn't nearly as prominent in the past as it is now though, so there isn't much history to go by.
Wilson didn't do the read option in college. He's mobile almost because he has to be, not because it's his thing.
Speaking of salary caps...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/87970/updated-look-at-nfc-west-cap-situations
Speaking of salary caps...
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/87970/updated-look-at-nfc-west-cap-situations
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NFC West Salary Cap Info
Team Carryover 2013 Space
Seahawks $13,200,000 $18,600,000
49ers $859,000 $3,900,000
Rams $247,000 $1,800,000
Cardinals $3,600,000 -$723,000http://www.sportsradiokjr.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104670&article=10679990
Seattle's FB took a video before the game on how awful the field was "hell pre-game is going to be dangerous"
The Texans punter from last year is suing them b/c of their awful field.
Curious to see how it goes. His career ended b/c his foot got caught between the giant seams of grass.
Seattle's FB took a video before the game on how awful the field was "hell pre-game is going to be dangerous"
The Texans punter from last year is suing them b/c of their awful field.
Curious to see how it goes. His career ended b/c his foot got caught between the giant seams of grass.
yankeehater
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The only guy that is really comparable is Randall Cunningham but he was hurt all the fucking time. Steve Young would run a lot but he was built like a running back.
Future PhaZe
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The difference is in throwing ability/accuracy. Vick isn't accurate so he has to focus on running.
Wilson and RGIII are a different breed. They can run and throw.
Running backs
They did sign stewart and williams to big ass contracts
not to mention charles johnson got a big contract
They did sign stewart and williams to big ass contracts
not to mention charles johnson got a big contract
At least Charles Johnson is worth it.
Beason's contract has proven to be a disaster, especially since Luke is now the MLB. $50m for a merely solid OLB is ridiculous. And of course, signing both D-Will and J-Stew to big money contracts. Should have picked one and moved on from the other. James Anderson getting a $25m contract for making a lot of tackles 8-12 yards downfield was pretty idiotic as well.
Didn't they sign Tolbert as well or do they use him as a Full back?
The_Darkest_Red
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True, but what I'm really wondering is if that particular breed is sustainable. Can any QB who runs as much as those guys do stay somewhat consistently healthy over the course of their career or are they destined to miss games almost every season? Wilson's off to a good start at the least.
We use him in a variety of ways, as a H-back, FB, slot receiver, etc. We got him pretty cheap ($10m over 4 years IIRC), which just further emphasizes we should have only kept one of J-Stew or D-Will. I actually think D-Will would have been better to keep instead of J-Stew. J-Stew would have fetched more in a trade being younger and with less tread on his tires, but he's also more injury-prone. Oh well now.
hmmm
We did that twice, 3 times if you want to count Timmons contract
DeaconKnowledge
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Timmons is just "Solid"? :jnc.
All 3 can be great/epic whichever term you want to describe, all 3 also can disappear for great periods as well. Do I regret his contract? or any of the 3 ? Not really, you gotta spend the money or else you're the Bucs. But lets not pretend they dont have their flaws.
yankeehater
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Cowboys are in such a bad position. Their 3 biggest problems are all unfixable at the moment. The GM, the HC, and the QB are all stuck there for another year. Jerry had to fire someone after he said big changes were coming, and he cant get rid of the QB, even though Romo is 1-6 in elimination games, since there is no one available that would be an upgrade. He wont fire the coach since he needs a HC he can push around and anyone willing to take the job wouldnt be any better. If he is serious about winning he would step down as GM and get a guy in there that could do the job, but winning really does seem to be second to stroking his ego.
yankeehater
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I love him as a HC. I really hope the Eagles hire him at some point. His players always play hard for him and he seems to get the most out of guys, even though the Bengals get a lot of low character guys. I think he would be a really good hire for you guys.
Dutch Gronk
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The Bengals D is pretty solid, the players seems to love him, and the Browns also have some nice pieces to work with so who knows. Maybe it could work if he's able to bring some solid coaches with him.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ever position player on every team has their flaws. Comparing Lawrence Timmons to Jon Beason is just stupid.
Might be one of the best options at this point.
cuevas. PhD.
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Romo is not elite but he is an above average and you can win with him. But at this stage of his career he needs a good coach who can transition him to game manager who only has to make a few plays a game (like Elway w/ Shanny)
Right now he has to do everything. No OL. Shit plays. It's like every play they just had to outwork everyone. Never a free lunch. No giant holes for RBs. No WRs running free in the secondary. Garrett's a bad coach but a good hand puppet, so he stays
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Damn 35M in space + we're gonna let Long go. Welcome to Miami Jennings and/or D Bowe!
VeryGooster
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They're the only Gawker site I enjoy reading aside from Lifehacker. I also think Gizmodo is far worse than Kotaku.
The_Darkest_Red
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I just hope they don't overpay for someone just because they can, you know? That money can go a long way if Ireland is smart with it.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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Idk that's the type of cap space where we better land a big name FA or I'm pissed.
Gizmodo sucks ass. Kotaku seems to be bad, but I never read them.
But Deadspin and Jalopnik are fun. (I sometimes read Jezebel too). And Gawker in general doesn't seem to be afraid too go further than others. They seem to be breaking a lot of stories these days. Sometimes they even have interesting longform stuff.
Anton Sugar
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Feel like Whitlock has the most balanced perspective on the RG3/Shanny mess:
tldr: they're both idiots.
tldr: they're both idiots.
Future PhaZe
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Not even worth reading. RGIII had nothing to lose by being benched and it wouldn't have hurt his relationship with Shanny, who doesn't give a shit about what people think about him to begin with. The man is all business.
TheDrizzlerJ11
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I don't blame the race horse if it wants to race! But contrary to what that article would have you believe, Shanny is the one with the power. It's his responsibility.
shira
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Well whoever shot him up with painkillers makes it three
The_Darkest_Red
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Yeah, I just hope they can do it without killing their ability to fix some of the other glaring issues on the roster. Ireland has a lot of cap space and draft picks to work with though, so it'll be exciting to see what happens. There is so much potential for great success and for massive failure in this off-season.
I haven't been following. Long has been a bust?
Also surprised it took this long for Zimmer to get an interview.
On the topic of mobile QBs who couldn't either stay healthy or maintain that style of running...McNabb wad pretty good throwing and running. But then he started getting hurt and eventually had two back to back season ending injuries. He came back and played decent but didn't run much at all anymore.
No. He's been hurt the last two seasons - most of this year.
Another vote of confidence for Zimmer here. He was the DC during the dark Petrino 2007 season, and his unit consistently kept us in games that we had no business staying within a score or two of with the Joey Harrington/Byron Leftwich (only 2 healthy quarters)/Chris Redman circus. Player's loved him, and it seems like he got shit on while at Dallas (forced to play 34 that he had little familiarity with due to Parcell's marching orders).
Futurevoid
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I would love to see a breakdown of the percentage of time Ryan blitzed as opposed to playing coverage. Having watched the Cowboys defense pretty regularly, that's an asinine statement considering what he had to work with after all of the injuries that defense sustained.NFL Article said:
Zimmer is an excellent coach. I'm a big fan and his getting a HC opportunity is long overdue.Kave_Man said:
The_Darkest_Red
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Not a bust, but he has regressed some in the past two years and he's also been hampered with injuries so it's really just that he probably won't be worth the enormous amount of money he'll want. When Long went down during the season Jonathan Martin (a rookie) switched from RT to LT to take his spot and he looked fairly decent which is another reason why the Dolphins probably won't be willing to spend the money to keep Long. That did create a new problem though, the Dolphins don't have a decent RT now, so it'll be interesting to see how they address that. I'm guessing they'll draft a RT and let Long go.
yankeehater
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Cant believe I didnt think of Mcnabb but he was a great running QB in the beginning. Once he started getting hurt every year he totally stopped running.
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