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NFL Divisional 2012 |OT| Schaubenfraud

chuckddd

Fear of a GAF Planet
The Verge is fucking schlock. This clown ass fat dude just spent ten minutes of a thirty minute "wrap up show" talking about nerd parties and models at these parties. Nilay Patel must be the most virgin virgin in America.

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Milchjon

Member
At least he can speak english unlike that Paul guy. Guy stutters more than Rainman.

Paul is the "Offline" guy, right? I vaguely remember being pretty creeped out by his "Offline: Porn" article. Something about him being opposed to porn as a Christian, but how addicted he was to it or something.
 

Talon

Member
How dare you. He is off the internet. He is post-internet. He is so cool.
He needs to blow his nose.

All-in-all, I like the Verge for its layout and the reviews. Topolsky is 50-50, and I can't stand Paul's voice. Nilay is intelligent though. Nice having an actual patent lawyer speak about patent law. Ars Technica is my #1 still, but I like what they're doing over at Vox as a media watcher. At least it's not the gigglefest that TWiT has become.
 

Milchjon

Member
There's a Furry thread and a My Little Pony thread just about 50 pixels below this thread in the OT Community.

Guarantee those are weirder.

Maybe, but even though the two things are totally unrelated, I find it hard to listen to someone talk about tech and take his opinion seriously after reading how he didn't masturbate until his twenties and got addicted to something that he thinks is a cancer to society. A mix of TMI, hypocrisy and general weirdness in that article that kind of disqualifies his whole character in my eyes. Might not be totally rational and fair, but it is what it is.

Also, I make sure to never wander into those threads you mentioned. I do sometimes enjoy the silliness of Pop-GAF though.
 

squicken

Member
So the Kings will move to Seattle, Ballmer will be a hero, Sacramento fans get fucked, and Thunder owners will wish they had better PR
 

Bowser

Member
Sounds like the Chargers are hiring Telesco as GM:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet
The #Chargers have informed one coaching candidate their new GM Tom Telesco, source says.

Does that make Arians the frontrunner there?
 

squicken

Member
I don't believe Elway transitioned to a game manager.

Looking back over attempts Elway was consistently around 400 - 500 attempts a year in the 90's, with a couple low years due to injury. Yards were very consistent throughout this time period. Elway was the same Elway, but he had TD to help carry the load. That offense was very dynamic, and I don't think it falls under the category of being ran by a game manager. The numbers or looking back, tells me otherwise. If anything his production ticked up with Rod Smith, McCaffrey, and Sharpe.

Don't know if you are old enough to remember, but he actually called his own plays under Reeves. Reeves of course game planned and everything, but Elways chose the plays. Very much like what Peyton does now.

With Shanny, all that went away. It was very much run it as it was called with a few checks. So a lot was taken off his plate. You would never say Schaub has to deal with the volume of decision making that Brady and Peyton do, even if his attempts are somewhat close. That's how I meant it as moving towards game manager. I'm not calling him Schoob or Dilfer, but his role was reduced

edit: Aldon Smith has one career sack w/o Justin Smith on the field

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/88079/on-aldon-smiths-relative-sack-drought
 

JCizzle

Member
Don't know if you are old enough to remember, but he actually called his own plays under Reeves. Reeves of course game planned and everything, but Elways chose the plays. Very much like what Peyton does now.

With Shanny, all that went away. It was very much run it as it was called with a few checks. So a lot was taken off his plate. You would never say Schaub has to deal with the volume of decision making that Brady and Peyton do, even if his attempts are somewhat close. That's how I meant it as moving towards game manager. I'm not calling him Schoob or Dilfer, but his role was reduced

edit: Aldon Smith has one career sack w/o Justin Smith on the field

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/88079/on-aldon-smiths-relative-sack-drought

How often was Justin EVER off the field other than this injury? Doesn't he play some absurd % of snaps? I thought it was 90+%.
 

Godslay

Banned
Don't know if you are old enough to remember, but he actually called his own plays under Reeves. Reeves of course game planned and everything, but Elways chose the plays. Very much like what Peyton does now.

With Shanny, all that went away. It was very much run it as it was called with a few checks. So a lot was taken off his plate. You would never say Schaub has to deal with the volume of decision making that Brady and Peyton do, even if his attempts are somewhat close. That's how I meant it as moving towards game manager. I'm not calling him Schoob or Dilfer, but his role was reduced

Peyton adjusts the play at the los, but the plays are still coming in from McCoy last I checked. Although sometimes I wonder how much is coming from who, since they have been rather mum on the topic when someone asked about it.

I'm 30, no spring chicken here. I'll give you the points of taking away some of the offense, because I do remember seeing on one of the Superbowl recaps that the play would come in to Elway. I thought you meant more along the line of a Dilfer or A. Smith, where he would have limited attempts and was there to feed the ball to TD with an a pass here or there.
 

squicken

Member
Peyton adjusts the play at the los, but the plays are still coming in from McCoy last I checked. Although sometimes I wonder how much is coming from who, since they have been rather mum on the topic when someone asked about it.

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Weirdly, before Bill Walsh and even into the 80s, QBs "called their own game". As far as Peyton, I remember in the preseason they were making a big deal that Peyton was running laps with the rest of the team when the offense was doing something wrong and all that. That he was just part of the team. Then after a preseason game Fox let his guard down and said that Peyton would play until he told Fox he was coming out

Just part of Peyton being a master PR guy. It doesn't help him to be seen as set apart or if he is de facto offensive coordinator, even if they are running the Indy offense and he is the one teaching it to McCoy and the rest of the staff
 

Hunter S.

Member
Weirdly, before Bill Walsh and even into the 80s, QBs "called their own game". As far as Peyton, I remember in the preseason they were making a big deal that Peyton was running laps with the rest of the team when the offense was doing something wrong and all that. That he was just part of the team. Then after a preseason game Fox let his guard down and said that Peyton would play until he told Fox he was coming out

Just part of Peyton being a master PR guy. It doesn't help him to be seen as set apart or if he is de facto offensive coordinator, even if they are running the Indy offense and he is the one teaching it to McCoy and the rest of the staff

Well, you can tell on the sidelines the Peyton has a large influence even on FOX. Fox tends to want to be ,me more conservative on wins and just end the game. Peyton generally, pushes them to keep going. In particular, you could see this in late reversals on late drives were Fox is ready to knee. Peyton gets mad and the offense comes back out.

Still I have seen many situations Peyton was running with the team in practice and how he works with the team like a coach working on fumble prevention. Peyton has a lot of sway, but he gets involved in the dirty work like the rest of them.
 

Hunter S.

Member
Plus, there are basically two types of head coaches that work. The hard asses that are super authoritarian like Mike Shanahan and demand strict discipline, and being a hard ass pushing the team through aggressiveness. Or the friend type that motivates the team by being their buddy and creating a we do it for love of the game and team style. Pete Carrol is more this style. John Fox also fits this style as he is always very friendly in his demeanor. He clearly relies on his assistants to be hard asses.

His approach allows for more input from a guy like Manning.
 

DSmalls84

Member
Hoping to see a Falcon victory Sunday...prepared to watch their last game of the season (Hopefully they have more confidence than I do after the last couple of playoff games)
 
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