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NFL Divisional 2012 |OT| Schaubenfraud

The schedule is BS!

WTF

The Ravens played on Sunday, and they have to play again this Saturday? While the Texans played on Saturday and get to play Sunday.

Of course Tom Brady is scheduled to play on Sunday.

This league is ridiculous and so transparent.

Its not like they set those dates in advance or anything.
 
The schedule is BS!

WTF

The Ravens played on Sunday, and they have to play again this Saturday? While the Texans played on Saturday and get to play Sunday.

Of course Tom Brady is scheduled to play on Sunday.

This league is ridiculous and so transparent.

:jnc

Before last week I really liked Seattle's chances because they got to play Atlanta and they are probably the only team with a great secondary left in the playoffs (playing primarily passing teams), but Wussle is giving me doubt.

I also assumed that the Niners would stomp the Packers and that the Broncos would make it to the SB. Now I don't know what to think anymore. Ray's knife is as sharp as ever and the Niners inspire no confidence. I mean in this current shit league I could even see Matt Ryan winning a playoff game or two.

Ravens are not a good team in my eyes, if they manage to beat Peyton then I see them making it to the SB, but Peyton should carve that D up especially if Lewis is playing. And the Ravens still have Flacco, I just hope he plays well enough to get a 5 year/70 million dollar contract.
 

bionic77

Member
I had Denver - GB and I think a ton of other people did as well.



Only way this happens is if Gonzalez has 15 catches and 3 touchdowns. He is their sole hope.
I wouldn't bet on the Falcons (and the Texans as well for that matter) doing anything other than embarrassing themselves, but so much weird shit is happening that anything seems possible. I mean the way you guys took out Ponder pre-game and the neat knife work Ray did on Arians shows me that this is not the typical NFL postseason.

Which means we are going to be watching a Texans/Falcons SB.
 

JCizzle

Member
I am pretty sure he did not plan for that to happen and RG3 also wanted to play.

And it isn't going to be talked about but I am sure the Hawks were gunning for that gimpy knee and trying to take his ass out.

Anyone watching could tell rg3 couldn't even plant to throw, let alone move. Shanny is the coach, it's his responsibility to pull an injured player over their protests. His cowardice disgusts me.
 

jmdajr

Member
I wouldn't bet on the Falcons (and the Texans as well for that matter) doing anything other than embarrassing themselves, but so much weird shit is happening that anything seems possible. I mean the way you guys took out Ponder pre-game and the neat knife work Ray did on Arians shows me that this is not the typical NFL postseason.

Which means we are going to be watching a Texans/Falcons SB.

At least one bye team will be eliminated next weekend.

I wonder if there is a stat on the percentage of all top four seeds making it to the afc/nfc championship on a year to year basis.
 

bionic77

Member
At least one bye team will be eliminated next weekend.

I wonder if there is a stat on the percentage of all top four seeds making it to the afc/nfc championship on a year to year basis.
Rarely do they all make it.

But the teams with the bye win about 75% of the time. So 3 of the 4 usually make it. This has not been the case recently though.

Anyone watching could tell rg3 couldn't even plant to throw, let alone move. Shanny is the coach, it's his responsibility to pull an injured player over their protests. His cowardice disgusts me.
You just described like at least 4 Big Ben games.

I mean sometimes the guy guys it out and wins the game and other times he holds his team back. Considering RG3 is the reason they were playing in that game to begin and the fact that there would have been an equally big backlash if he did not play, I am giving dirty Mike some slack.
 

Dragon

Banned
Anyone watching could tell rg3 couldn't even plant to throw, let alone move. Shanny is the coach, it's his responsibility to pull an injured player over their protests. His cowardice disgusts me.

I didn't see the game but if that's true it's pretty bad. Cousins proved at least that he's a capable backup.
 

eznark

Banned
I wouldn't bet on the Falcons (and the Texans as well for that matter) doing anything other than embarrassing themselves, but so much weird shit is happening that anything seems possible. I mean the way you guys took out Ponder pre-game and the neat knife work Ray did on Arians shows me that this is not the typical NFL postseason.

Which means we are going to be watching a Texans/Falcons SB.


Sorry I'm doing a full day of serious posting just for Squicken and LJ.
 

JCizzle

Member
Rarely do they all make it.

But the teams with the bye win about 75% of the time. So 3 of the 4 usually make it. This has not been the case recently though.


You just described like at least 4 Big Ben games.

I mean sometimes the guy guys it out and wins the game and other times he holds his team back. Considering RG3 is the reason they were playing in that game to begin and the fact that there would have been an equally big backlash if he did not play, I am giving dirty Mike some slack.

Tbh I didn't like seeing Ben on MNF last year against the Niners. They threw him to the wolves and are lucky he didn't get hurt further
 
Alright so didn't jump into this thread last night but I'll post my thoughts now.

First things first -- lots of props to the Seahawks. Really love the way they built their secondary in terms of size and grit and I'd love for us to emulate that, especially when Josh Wilson looks like a midget out there.

But yea, Wilson played great. Probably had some situations that should have been turnovers, but thems the breaks.

As far as RoY, I'm not mad if Wilson gets it. Luck looks good also, I hate on him just for competitive purposes, but the Colts have a good player. RGIII's play obviously speaks for itself.

The good news is I think everyone knows we had a good chance of beating that Seahawks team if we're healthy, but it is what it is. If Garcon is healthy then we might win that game with a broken RGIII, but Garcon was just as done as him and he's just as big of a cog to our offense as Rob and Morris are.

My main concern right now is with Shanahan...with the story that broke last week about Rob not even being cleared to play, and then him looking like complete shit and literally playing on one leg out there...I have to wonder what the fuck the dude was thinking.

But I aint even mad. Hell of a season. Props to Hawks-age and Colts-age, good luck to all remaining teams.
 

Miguel

Member
Alright so didn't jump into this thread last night but I'll post my thoughts now.

First things first -- lots of props to the Seahawks. Really love the way they built their secondary in terms of size and grit and I'd love for us to emulate that, especially when Josh Wilson looks like a midget out there.

But yea, Wilson played great. Probably had some situations that should have been turnovers, but thems the breaks.

As far as RoY, I'm not mad if Wilson gets it. Luck looks good also, I hate on him just for competitive purposes, but the Colts have a good player. RGIII's play obviously speaks for itself.

The good news is I think everyone knows we had a good chance of beating that Seahawks team if we're healthy, but it is what it is. If Garcon is healthy then we might win that game with a broken RGIII, but Garcon was just as done as him and he's just as big of a cog to our offense as Rob and Morris are.

My main concern right now is with Shanahan...with the story that broke last week about Rob not even being cleared to play, and then him looking like complete shit and literally playing on one leg out there...I have to wonder what the fuck the dude was thinking.

But I aint even mad. Hell of a season. Props to Hawks-age and Colts-age, good luck to all remaining teams.
"Win now"
 
No one is going to be crying. That's done with.
We know we need a miracle to win.

I'm not confident about the game at all, but I get your pessimism as well. You have the motivation from last game, we need to maintain focus after the bye and not get complacent after we beat you the last time and think it will be easy this time. That overconfidence killed us against the Jets that one time and they were all kinds of fired up as well.

You've played us once, you know the offense a bit better so maybe you guys adjusted and Schaub isn't Joe Montana, but our D is still pretty terrible.

Having Gronk back will really help though, just hope his arm healed up a bit more so he can block with 2 arms again.

It will be a whole lot closer than the last time and I truely believe it can go either way.
 

cajunator

Banned
So Chip Kelly dangled a carrot and ended up going back to Oregon. what a troll.
So who does the Browns and Eagles end up with now?
 

jmdajr

Member
watch out! here he comes!

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My main concern right now is with Shanahan...with the story that broke last week about Rob not even being cleared to play, and then him looking like complete shit and literally playing on one leg out there...I have to wonder what the fuck the dude was thinking.

"No way we're winning this game with Kirk Cousins".
 

Wes

venison crêpe
So Chip Kelly dangled a carrot and ended up going back to Oregon. what a troll.
So who does the Browns and Eagles end up with now?

If no news comes out of the Browns by Thursday I think they're waiting on Roman or McDaniels. Haslam now down to his 4th choice.
 

squicken

Member
You don't have to though, that's the thing. And it's the thing that people like Kastrioti and "gimmick offense" casuals are overlooking. The fact that he can run freezes the linebacker/end enough to create a seam for the dive give or to allow a gap in the zone over the top of the linebacker. A QB who keeps it 5-6 times but gets a first down on each of those runs is terrifying to a defensive coordinator. Excellent safety play can impact that a lot (we saw that a bit yesterday as the Seahawks were able to take away a lot of those open ins at 10-15 yards that RG3 lives off of via play action, but otherwise it's tough. The best way people are explaining it is that it creates 11-11 football and we are at a point in the NFL where the better athletes (and the rulebook) tips the scales to the offense.
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Who are the top safeties in this draft? Teams are really going to have to address that more seriously now, and stop putting poop like Craig Dahl back there
 
Anyone feel like all of this Arians HC talk is a bit short sighted? How many HC-less teams fit the "professional/intelligent/talented quarterback with great protection" bill that his system requires to succeed? Yeah, the Colts went 11-5, but the majority of those were 4th quarter comebacks/game-winning drives. Our most dominant games were against Houston at home and the Jags away (lol).
 

brentech

Member
More question on the level of quality of the field and other NFL fields. It's not like the NFL doesn't have the money for the best possible care. Franchises shouldn't be allowed to host a game if in clear weather, that's the condition of the field.

More than just RG3s injury was likely aided by the field condition.
 

BigAT

Member
Who are the top safeties in this draft? Teams are really going to have to address that more seriously now, and stop putting poop like Craig Dahl back there

Watch your mouth, his North Dakota State Bison just won their second consecutive FCS Championship.

I was incredibly bored on Saturday and fell into a Wikipedia spiral that concluded with Noteable North Dakota State Bison Football Players
 
More question on the level of quality of the field and other NFL fields. It's not like the NFL doesn't have the money for the best possible care. Franchises shouldn't be allowed to host a game if in clear weather, that's the condition of the field.

More than just RG3s injury was likely aided by the field condition.

A bad field can't sue you, ergo, Goodell doesn't good a shit.
 
Anyone feel like all of this Arians HC talk is a bit short sighted? How many HC-less teams fit the "professional/intelligent/talented quarterback with great protection" bill that his system requires to succeed? Yeah, the Colts went 11-5, but the majority of those were 4th quarter comebacks/game-winning drives. Our most dominant games were against Houston at home and the Jags away (lol).

Colts went 11-5.

Arians' offenses took the Steelers to 2 Super Bowls.

That's all anybody will see. With Reid off the market Arians is the hottest Coaching candidate in the NFL, and that includes Lovie Smith.
 
It's a good think Falcons-age is not reactionary outside of that Falcao worshipper.

I'm just going to be really anxious all week.

Right now, it's offset by my anxiety for tonight's game but I at least have full confidence in Saban and his minions to get the job done.
 

Talon

Member
More question on the level of quality of the field and other NFL fields. It's not like the NFL doesn't have the money for the best possible care. Franchises shouldn't be allowed to host a game if in clear weather, that's the condition of the field.

More than just RG3s injury was likely aided by the field condition.
See: Soldier Field
 

eznark

Banned
Who are the top safeties in this draft? Teams are really going to have to address that more seriously now, and stop putting poop like Craig Dahl back there

Looking at strong safeties Elam is probably the best but he is so small. After that I don't know if anyone is projected to go in the first but if you are in a division against Kaepernick and Wilson, I could see the Rams start thinking a buy like Shawn Williams is worth a second. I can't remember for sure because I was kind of flipping back and forth on New Years but I think he had some really idiotic and boneheaded late hits in that game....so I could see Fisher deciding to take him in the first!

It'd be interesting to see a shift from free to strong safety in terms of draft position over the next few years.

BigAT said:
I was incredibly bored on Saturday and fell into a Wikipedia spiral that concluded with Noteable North Dakota State Bison Football Players

I would love to see that link history.
 

Talon

Member
Looking at strong safeties Elam is probably the best but he is so small. After that I don't know if anyone is projected to go in the first but if you are in a division against Kaepernick and Wilson, I could see the Rams start thinking a buy like Shawn Williams is worth a second. I can't remember for sure because I was kind of flipping back and forth on New Years but I think he had some really idiotic and boneheaded late hits in that game....so I could see Fisher deciding to take him in the first!

It'd be interesting to see a shift from free to strong safety in terms of draft position over the next few years.
Elam is the most boneheaded tackler in college football. Gata can tell you.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Who are the top safeties in this draft? Teams are really going to have to address that more seriously now, and stop putting poop like Craig Dahl back there

Elam, Vaccaro, Reid are three safeties I see mocked a lot in the bottom of the first, top of the second.
 

Talon

Member
I realize the NFL just doesn't really care, I just think they should.
Fields should have to pass a level of quality.
As far as I know, the teams are independently responsible for field conditions. Soldier Field for some reason is managed by the Chicago Parks Department.
 
Colts went 11-5.

Arians' offenses took the Steelers to 2 Super Bowls.

That's all anybody will see. With Reid off the market Arians is the hottest Coaching candidate in the NFL, and that includes Lovie Smith.

True. I just don't see him as HC material. We got the wins, but sometimes it was Luck/our playmakers that bailed out a number of Arians' bad decisions.

Maybe he can succeed with a more mature/developed team. Some reports said he really wanted the Browns job.
 

eznark

Banned
As far as I know, the teams are independently responsible for field conditions. Soldier Field for some reason is managed by the Chicago Parks Department.

Soldier Field is kept intentionally loose. The CPD does a great job making that field the exact conditions that Lovie specified. It'll be funny to see how much nicer it is going forward without him there.
 
You don't have to though, that's the thing. And it's the thing that people like Kastrioti and "gimmick offense" casuals are overlooking. The fact that he can run freezes the linebacker/end enough to create a seam for the dive give or to allow a gap in the zone over the top of the linebacker. A QB who keeps it 5-6 times but gets a first down on each of those runs is terrifying to a defensive coordinator.

Demarcus Ware.gif

Redskins/Cowboys is what truly sold me on the longevity of the Read option. Ware was a statue. Many of the plays went to his side and he was so frozen with indecision the Redksins removed him from the game.
 

squicken

Member
Elam, Vaccaro, Reid are three safeties I see mocked a lot in the bottom of the first, top of the second.

Will have to read up on those guys. Wish their was an NCAA Rewind. Tony Jefferson from OU declared, but I am not a fan. But who knows. DBs seem harder to project. Has Eric Berry lived up to the hype? Thomas definitely has
 
True. I just don't see him as HC material. We got the wins, but sometimes it was Luck/our playmakers that bailed out a number of Arians' bad decisions.

Maybe he can succeed with a more mature/developed team. Some reports said he really wanted the Browns job.
Of course he does. Browns have a great o-line and Defense already, and 'm sure Arians is chomping at the bit to get revenge on the Rooneys for firing him.

Will have to read up on those guys. Wish their was an NCAA Rewind. Tony Jefferson from OU declared, but I am not a fan. But who knows. DBs seem harder to project. Has Eric Berry lived up to the hype? Thomas definitely has

Doubt anyone here would know. Who really watches the Chiefs? None of their fans post here.
 

Wes

venison crêpe
Will have to read up on those guys. Wish their was an NCAA Rewind. Tony Jefferson from OU declared, but I am not a fan. But who knows. DBs seem harder to project. Has Eric Berry lived up to the hype? Thomas definitely has

I think Berry's terrible injury last year has given him a bit more time before people decide whether he lived up to the hype or not. He started off his rookie year great, not sure how he did this year.

I'm glad we took Haden instead of Berry now though.
 

eznark

Banned
Will have to read up on those guys. Wish their was an NCAA Rewind. Tony Jefferson from OU declared, but I am not a fan. But who knows. DBs seem harder to project. Has Eric Berry lived up to the hype? Thomas definitely has

Yeah, I don't know if there is anyone in this draft who really fits the mold of Woodson/Polamalu. That's really what you want. A guy who can drop into a zone, maybe man up a TE and can also make solid tackles or at least hard contact on a free runner. If you have that your life against options is a lot easier. As Deacon said with Ware, it's tough to defend the read option for some of these specialists. If you are a pass rusher? Good luck. Too undisciplined. The big bodies most teams rotate in on short yardage are too slow. I think that's a big reason the read option is working. It forces specialized players to be dynamic.

Ya, can't really make any calls on Berry because of the ACL. He is in the Pro Bowl this year though. Also kind of hard to judge how good he is when the defense is on the field 85% of the game.
 
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