NFL Off-Season Thread: "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?"

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FrenchMovieTheme said:
i have a better question for you. if matt stafford played the saints in the playoffs last season, would he have been good enough to win the game? cause alex smith beat the saints twice in the playoffs last year!
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Huh, so the 49ers played 2 playoff games. 1 against the Saints, whom they beat. And one against the Giants, which they lost. Something doesn't add up
 
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I'm so sorry Josh
 
Ninja Scooter said:
They should have killed Sean Payton.
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Dude should be permanently banned from the NFL. Hell, anyone involved should be banned. When players are intentionally trying to injure other players, that's no longer a sports issue, that's assault. Banning him for a year means nothing imo. Franchise should have been hit much harder than it has been.

500k is nothing.

Two second rounders? That's it?

(yes I'm being serious here)
greatestjediever said:
If you saw the NO/Clippers game, you can tell fans are quite fond of bounties :)
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Pretty hard foul, but it was inevitable that he was going to get hit at some point with all that flopping.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
When players are intentionally trying to injure other players, that's no longer a sports issue, that's assault.
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Football:

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Assault:

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Or are you telling me he's just trying to hug Favre really strong like?

The Saints coaching staff and the players involved biggest crime was willfully being dishonest to the investigators of the NFL for 2 seasons, ignoring several calls from the league and ownership for the program to stop and then leaving paper trails of it all. The bounty program itself is bothersome sure, but this is a violent sport to begin with and hardly worth the outrage to compare it to assault.
 
Futurevoid said:
The Saints coaching staff and the players involved biggest crime was willfully being dishonest to the investigators of the NFL for 2 seasons, ignoring several calls from the league and ownership for the program to stop and then leaving paper trails of it all. The bounty program itself is bothersome sure, but this is a violent sport to begin with and hardly worth the outrage to compare it to assault.
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If you seriously think that the biggest crime here is the coaching staff lying, I don't know what to say. Yes, football is a violent sport, but players are usually going at guys with the intent of tackling them. This bounty system turns things to players trying to INTENTIONALLY INJURE other players!!! Can you not see the difference? What if a player is paralyzed or permanently harmed because of this bounty system?

I think in order to understand what I'm saying you have to look at the players as human beings. These guys were supporting ATTACKS on players. These attacks could fuck the players for life. At that point its not about sports.
Devolution said:
What more did you want to see done?
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Permanent banning from the league for anyone involved, or at least Williams and the HC. Also, more draft picks taken away.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
I know I'm a bit late on this, but does anyone else think that the punishment for the bounty program wasn't enough? Seems like a slap on the wrist to me.
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I honestly wanted more draft picks taken away (a first rounder, for starters).....but then again, I'm a biased Falcons fan. :)
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
Permanent banning from the league for anyone involved, or at least Williams and the HC. Also, more draft picks taken away.
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Fair enough. I kind of agree, we're not just talking hitting harder but incentivizing injuring people on the field. As someone who gets upset when any player gets injured so bad he has to be taken off the field, I find this crap pretty reprehensible and disgusting. I want to see teams compete, not players get taken out on stretchers.
 
Yes, football is a violent sport, but players are usually going at guys with the intent of tackling them.
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That's a bit naive, don't you think? What's the intention of a pass rush? To hit the QB and do it often. Get him off his spot, get him jumping at ghosts and a consequence of that may be to put enough hits on him so that he can't perform at his normal level. Players can say they have no intention of injuring someone but if those legal hits mount up - guess what the result is?

You can view that as barbaric and/or out of the realm of what the game intends but let's be real - these guys aren't pillow fighting on the field.

Do I agree with a bounty system? Of course not but the players should be a helluvalot more culpable in this than the coaches. So, yes I do completely believe the coaches biggest crime was creating their own little watergate to drown themselves in. It's the players who go on about wanting better conditions, lifetime healthcare from ownership, less OTA's to help heal their bodies. Maybe they should have gotten their heads out of their asses and thought about the ramifications of fucking with another mans livelihood? Even then you're one good hit from a torn ACL outside of any bounty system in the NFL so the comparison to assault is still hyperbole at best.

Your indignation towards the coaching staff and or organization is over zealous is my point. Be outraged at the players offering up 10k to put another player on a kart while the league is sued for concussions issues left and right. The coach who put his money in the mix is all but out of the league - what more would you like?
 
Just got back from watching the Hunger Games. School had a free screening if we brought a canned food item for charity.

Things I liked...

-Jennifer Lawrence had a really good preformance

-Woody Harrelson as a sloppy drunk with a heart of gold

-The concept of kids murdering each other for sport

Things that were meh...

-The art direction. Wasn't terrible just really forgettable.

-Editing was weird. A lot of moments of characters coming out of no where.

-The plot was inoffensive

Things I hated...

-The collective squeal of the crowd when the Twight trailer started

-The romance. sooo fucking cheezy

-shaky cam

Final thoughts

It's a white washed version of Battle Royale made to appeal to dat 18 to 34 demo. If you're intrested take your girlfriend/boyfriend with you. If don't think this worth your time, but like the concept do yourself a favor and go watch Battle Royale instead.

-DCX
 
Futurevoid said:
Do I agree with a bounty system? Of course not but the players should be a helluvalot more culpable in this than the coaches. So, yes I do completely believe the coaches biggest crime was creating their own little watergate to drown themselves in. It's the players who go on about wanting better conditions, lifetime healthcare from ownership, less OTA's to help heal their bodies. Maybe they should have gotten their heads out of their asses and thought about the ramifications of fucking with another mans livelihood? Even then you're one good hit from a torn ACL outside of any bounty system in the NFL so the comparison to assault is still hyperbole at best.

Your indignation towards the coaching staff and or organization is over zealous is my point. Be outraged at the players offering up 10k to put another player on a kart while the league is sued for concussions issues left and right. The coach who put his money in the mix is all but out of the league - what more would you like?
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I think Loomis and Payton got hit so hard because they decided to ignore their owner and the commish by letting it continue and lying about it. If they had put a stop to it or at least shown an attempt to put a stop to it then I think they would've received a slap on the wrist.
 
storybook77 said:
I think Loomis and Payton got hit so hard because they decided to ignore their owner and the commish by letting it continue and lying about it.
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Yep. The level of punishment was commiserate with the crime. I'm more curious to see what Goodell does to the players involved. If the players get a slap in the wrist while the coaches get the brunt of the wrath then the entire ordeal is laughable to me. There's no question the coaches facilitated and perpetuated the existence of the program but it's not like they put a gun to the head of Vilma or other players involved and said "You better injure this guy". These are grown ass men that are fully capable of saying "No coach, that's wrong". They do have a union for a reason last I checked, right? They have people they can go to if they felt what was going on wasn't in the spirit of the game.
 
TheLegendary said:
Patriots have such a freaking easy division now that the Jets have turned into a circus
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I hope so. When the Bills become your scariest divisional opponent...
I'm actually grateful. The Dolphins seemed to show potential towards the end of last season, but they seem intent on losing every last shred of it.
 
Landry is a good pickup by the Jets. Their safety play has been pretty mediocre over the last few years, he should help a lot.

Dante Stallworth should stay where he was, in jail. Don't want his ass on the team.
 
eznark said:
Those two dudes weren't smiling when Gronk Big Ben'd them.
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I would like to imagine Gronk as more of a Chimurizer.
 
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