because it's usually an offensive player in cfb. where theres MAYBE 2 teams who play defense. Chucking it up or plowing through a bunch of scrub teams all year doesn't make you a great football player.
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because it's usually an offensive player in cfb. where theres MAYBE 2 teams who play defense. Chucking it up or plowing through a bunch of scrub teams all year doesn't make you a great football player.
Future PhaZe
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Why do people keep talking about Chip trading with Tampa? Isn't it pretty clear they'll be taking Winston? Why no noise about them trading with Washington, who's got the pick right before the Jets who are likely to take a hard look at QB?
Yea Cam is good. I'll take the L for that post, but usually the case
Still think the all in strat on one player who is unproven in the NFL is risky. The recent Heisman QBs in the NFL other than Cam who seem to have the pedigree to play NFL ball have all been plagued by injuries
Maybe Mariota and/or Winston are different and have better luck, but I don't think the risk is worth it. If you have one of those high draft picks you are probably better trading it away for a shitload of picks
Still think the all in strat on one player who is unproven in the NFL is risky. The recent Heisman QBs in the NFL other than Cam who seem to have the pedigree to play NFL ball have all been plagued by injuries
Maybe Mariota and/or Winston are different and have better luck, but I don't think the risk is worth it. If you have one of those high draft picks you are probably better trading it away for a shitload of picks
Future PhaZe
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I'm just shocked Chip didn't get a draft pick out of the trade. I mean yea, usually you can't get one if its known you're looking to get rid of a guy, but you can usually get a pick when you take a team by surprise with a star being available.
Dutch Gronk
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Okay friends, today I learned moving is expensive. I need to buy so much new shit ;_;
AbortedWalrusFetus
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The reason I think it's a little more sane for the Eagles is the system is relatively QB friendly. Look how far they got with Foles and Sanchez. They can fix their only huge issue in free agency then take a risk on a QB who is already familiar with the system.
Chip is a great coach and having worked with Mariota he probably has a really good feeling about his NFL potential, but there still comes that injury risk.
That happens a lot with modern NFL though, you practically need a good QB to win and that almost necessitates building around them which is risky
Mackenzie 92
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Division rivals usually won't make a trade like that, unless Philly really went nuts and Washington believed it would hurt them rather than help them. Oakland remains their best trade partner and will give them a reasonable deal.
MetalFearSolid
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Seahawks are meeting with Cary Williams. Man that would be a good addition to fit in for Maxwell departure.
Cam won a playoff game this past year, so that article is out of date.
Himynameischris
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There is too much inbreeding between the AFCE, almost feels like players and coaches just switch between those four teams. Fucken Gata.
There've been lots of rumors that they are trying to get up to 1. The thinking, from the Eagles standpoint, is that they can finalize the deal now as opposed to having to wait until draft day, so they can approach free agency with that in mind.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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Either Oakland or Tennessee. Tennessee needs a QB and a pass rusher. Eagles have both that they could deal. Vinny Curry had 9 sacks in less than 50% of defensive snaps, which is like the most efficient pass rusher in the NFL, and will cost only $1M next year. Foles also has a year left before he's an FA. Titans could take both of them and some picks and basically get two players with known performance that they can evaluate for a year before resigning. If I were Tennessee I'd do that trade any day.
Happens a lot in the NFC North as well. This is what happens when the bad teams take the bad players from the Patriots and Packers and the Patriots and Packers take the good players from the bad teams.
Alligatorjandro
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I hope the dolphins overpay someone
Himynameischris
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Don't worry, sounds like we're keeping wallace
Alligatorjandro
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I hope you give Suh $150 million
Himynameischris
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I hope revis and mccourty leave
$60M guaranteed and he can just "retire" lol
low blow. At least the phins are already bad
Himynameischris
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$60M guaranteed and he can just "retire" lol
low blow. At least the phins are already bad
Hey Gata started it
$60M guaranteed and he can just "retire" lol
low blow. At least the phins are already bad
Pretty sure much like the Ricky Williams case they could recover some of that.
Alligatorjandro
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I'll just watch highlights of the Superbowl to make myself feel better if that happens
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 16s16 seconds ago
Miami remains the team to watch in the Ndamukong Suh sweepstakes.
Mackenzie 92
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Suh will probably just use us for leverage.
I think Tennessee might prefer to have Leonard Williams and stick with Mettenberger. But yeah, who knows.
I think Tennessee might prefer to have Leonard Williams and stick with Mettenberger. But yeah, who knows.
I don't see any reason to think it'll happen, but I really want Suh to sign with the Titans and for them to draft Leonard Williams so they'll have a beastly line of Williams, Suh, and Jurell Casey and finally have something interesting going for them.
I'm not so interested in Hartline, although he's a more realistic target than Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall and Brandon LaFell worked out this season despite my misgivings.
I'm not so interested in Hartline, although he's a more realistic target than Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall and Brandon LaFell worked out this season despite my misgivings.
Himynameischris
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If you enjoy watching fantasy go right ahead.
smh all because suh went to Miami, fuck you kas
Really? A bidding war between Cleveland, Houston and NE on Brian fucking Hartline?
SMDH
Alligatorjandro
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haha
AbortedWalrusFetus
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They might, but I don't think they'd be able to pass up that deal.
I can see it, at least for espionage on a division rival. Might get signed and not make the roster
He'd probably have to at least show up just phoning it in to get money yea
Himynameischris
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It's possible
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/miami-dolphins-the-major-player-for-free-agent-nda/nkNfz/
Sounds like we are keeping Wallace though, hopefully that deters any moves towards Suh,
The_Darkest_Red
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Mech, don't act like you never stood up for Swearinger's dirty ass.
#RIPDustin
#RIPDustin
Your two pretty by QBs don't want to face Suh twice a year. No one does.
I hate that Suh is playing with my (and Lions fans hearts) like this but it's all part of the process. Guy is going to test the market and get as much as he's earned.
Screw those Detroit fans putting up $uh? Billboards questioning his love for the game. At the end I still have faith we'll offer him the most money. If not, then =/ I'll still watch and follow every game he plays.
His rookie year, yes. (That still was a clean hit, not dirty) He had potential but he has shown almost no improvement and was rated by PFF this past year as one of the worst 5 safties in the league. Please tell me where I even suggested I am standing up for him now.
Either way the report of him taking the truck without paying is now being reported as somewhat false. He is in Florida training and he could not have taken the truck. TMZ and PFT jumped the gun again.
Why would you want Suh on the dolphins you dumb bitch
Same reason to be happy A-rod signed with the Yankees. He eats all their money and fucks the rest of the team over regardless of production
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Mackenzie 92
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Alligatorjandro
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Because he would be overpaid and would cripple the dolphins for years to come and he wouldn't care about playing you dickfuck
Lmao you were happy when ARod signed with the Yankees? That's some revisionist history there.
Suh is a top defensive player in the league playing at a position that would take advantage of a Pats weakness (interior oline). The Dolphins are already a good team, this would make them a much bigger threat to us.
Sweet, I'll watch.
Mackenzie 92
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What I've been saying.
Didn't realize Broz was heading into his 4th year as a backup. Kinda crazy for a 2nd round pick. Wonder what Broncos will do at end of season, do you resign a guy who hasn't started a game?
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