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[Duxxy3]

It's a disaster because they might not be able to get a top 3 free agent that numerous teams want and a top 5 draft pick while picking from the #20 spot?

Also cutting a bunch of people and trading away McCoy.

 

[harSon]

Don't the Raiders have like $60 million in cap space? Do they plan on doing anything.

 

[eznark]

Also cutting a bunch of people and trading away McCoy.

Who did he cut that he shouldn't have?

The correct reason it has been a disaster is because of Brad. Fucking. Jones.

Fire-able offense.

 

[JABEE]

I remember watching that top 5 offense in Lambeau last year. It was truly, sincerely terrifying.

The Chipper was still working out the kinks!

 

[CB3]

I think he played elite last year. Do I think he is elite? No. Gonna need to see him repeat last year multiple years.

Do I think we should have paid him?Sure... I really wouldn't mind giving him 2 mil more to keep him (as apparently we offered 9 and he wanted 11) it will be hard to replace his production. It was nice having Maclin and Matthews but now it's just Matthews. Cooper aint doing shit and only did one season out of his whole career, while Maclin has always produced as a Number 2 and showed up for us as a #1 last year.

We were just arguing semantics i think. I liked Maclin and for a long time i was the guy telling people i thought he was a more well rounded WR than DeSean Jackson which is why i thought they worked so well together.

Id like to see the full picture before saying what is right or wrong. Im really interested to see what Jordan Matthews looks like on the outside as a starter. He's got the skills to do it. 6'3 212 running a 4.4 40 is no joke.

 

[Futurevoid]

Don't the Raiders have like $60 million in cap space? Do they plan on doing anything.

Players actually have to want to take that money and play in Oakland. Tough sledding there.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

We were just arguing semantics i think. I liked Maclin and for a long time i was the guy telling people i thought he was a more well rounded WR than DeSean Jackson which is why i thought they worked so well together.

Id like to see the full picture before saying what is right or wrong. Im really interested to see what Jordan Matthews looks like on the outside as a starter. He's got the skills to do it. 6'3 212 running a 4.4 40 is no joke.

he will do well on the outside. He should have been on the outside last year with Huff in the slot.

I don't know why we are paying Cooper the money we are paying him.

 

[JABEE]

Chip losing Maclin is the first bad thing that has happened this offseason to the Eagles.

I wish we could have locked him up earlier. Eagles didn't want to give him $11m+

Maclin seems to have made the right choice for himself.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

I want off the free agency train now. Buy holy shit I have to imagine KC is way overpaying Maclin to get him to move.

 

[Futurevoid]

From Graziano:

@DanGrazianoESPN: Latest I'm hearing: Giants still talking to Brandon Graham, Dan Williams for DL. Running third behind Pats, Eagles on McCourty.

Hope the Giants turn their attention towards Ron Parker at Safety. Either he or a lower key player like Searcy from the Bills. Breaking the bank for McCourty was always a longshot.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Don't the Raiders have like $60 million in cap space? Do they plan on doing anything.

There are still some good FA's out there. Whether we get them or not is another question.

Reggie has outbid several teams for FA's but they choose to go elsewhere or stay put for less money.

 

[JABEE]

I don't believe that Cobb highest offer outside of Green Bay was cancelled out by state taxes.

Unless Andy just really wanted Maclin over anything else.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

It's a disaster because they might not be able to get a top 3 free agent that numerous teams want and a top 5 draft pick while picking from the #20 spot?

It's a failure because they keep losing our top talent. Maybe Maclin wanted out and you can argue shady because of the cap hit but all three, in a short period of time, with no major off or on the field issues, is because of chip.

I don't see how you recover from that. They all are proven talent in a league where proven talent is hard to come by.

 

[minx]

Is there anything worse than being a Raiders fan? Only washed up player will sign there for a high pay day. So much more to spend and no one wants to go there.

Also praying that the Bears can trick the Texans or Titans into Cutler for a 7th rounder. Fuck it make it a conditional 7th rounder.

 

[eznark]

It's a failure because they keep losing our top talent. Maybe Maclin wanted out and you can argue shady because of the cap hit but all three, in a short period of time, with no major off or on the field issues, is because of chip.

I don't see how you recover from that. They all are proven talent in a league where proven talent is hard to come by.

It's not hard to find receivers or running backs

 

[Draxal]

It's a pretty good year to have holes at wr/rb as both have a ton in the draft.

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Is there anything worse than being a Raiders fan? Only washed up player will sign there for a high pay day. So much more to spend and no one wants to go there.

Also praying that the Bears can trick the Texans or Titans into Cutler for a 7th rounder. Fuck it make it a conditional 7th rounder.

Not much worse than being a Bears fan I reckon.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Just my last point on Maclin....cause Im missing him already...

In comparison to Cobb

Maclin played well with a multitude of QBs....Kevin Kolb, Mike Vick, Mike Kafka, Vince Young, Nick foles, and Mark fuckin Sanchez...


Cobb had Aaron Fuckin Rodgers...just sayin

 

[Duxxy3]

It's not hard to find receivers or running backs

Belichick, for all of his talent as a coach and gm, is completely unable to find a quality receiver in the draft.

It's a pretty good year to have holes at wr/rb as both have a ton in the draft.

Bill would still, somehow, fuck up a receiver pick.

 

[Pepiope]

Offered Maclin 9M+ and he didn't want it.

Chip likes his WRs a bit bigger anyway. Reportedly looking at Crabtree now. He could do well here having an actual QB throwing him the football. I'm not extremely upset, but I would've preferred Mac.

The one time Andy Reid pays for a WR in FA, smh.

Just my last point on Maclin....cause Im missing him already...

In comparison to Cobb

Maclin played well with a multitude of QBs....Kevin Kolb, Mike Vick, Mike Kafka, Vince Young, Nick foles, and Mark fuckin Sanchez...


Cobb had Aaron Fuckin Rodgers...just sayin

He wasn't worth the money he wanted. He's an injury concern and is older than Cobb. No way he deserves the same payday. Do we know how much KC threw his way?

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Offered Maclin 9M+ and he didn't want it.

Chip likes his WRs a bit bigger anyway. Reportedly looking at Crabtree now. He could do well here having an actual QB throwing him the football. I'm not extremely upset, but I would've preferred Mac.

The one time Andy Reid pays for a WR in FA, smh.

Ugh....no to Crabtree...

 

[eznark]

Belichick, for all of his talent as a coach and gm, is completely unable to find a quality receiver in the draft.

Yeah it's been difficult for them to generate offense during his tenure.

 

[JABEE]

It's not hard to find receivers or running backs

Maclin did have his first 1000 yard season last year. We just have to hope that the system will carry us through.

 

[KaYotiX]

Don't the Raiders have like $60 million in cap space? Do they plan on doing anything.

Nobody wants to play in Oakland. Can't say I blame them.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

Offered Maclin 9M+ and he didn't want it.

Chip likes his WRs a bit bigger anyway. Reportedly looking at Crabtree now. He could do well here having an actual QB throwing him the football. I'm not extremely upset, but I would've preferred Mac.

The one time Andy Reid pays for a WR in FA, smh.

Maclin was made of glass. Last year he stayed healthy. He wasn't worth the money he wanted. Do we know how much KC threw his way?

11m from the latest report...only 2 mil more than what we offered. worth it imo. Maclin isn't more injury prone than most of the top receivers out there.

 

[JABEE]

The Eagles didn't screw up in picking Jordan Matthews last season. He has big potential. I wonder if he's going to move to the outside with Maclin gone.

Another strong WR draft coming up.

 

[LyleLanley]

Any updates on Revis or McCourty?

 

[Squall ASF]

The Eagles didn't screw up in picking Jordan Matthews last season. He has big potential. I wonder if he's going to move to the outside with Maclin gone.

Another strong WR draft coming up.

We're definitely going to see what Chip's offense is truly made of.

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

The Eagles didn't screw up in picking Jordan Matthews last season. He has big potential. I wonder if he's going to move to the outside with Maclin gone.

Another strong WR draft coming up.

I mean, that will most likely happen. I recall Chip always stating Matthews could become a #1.

with that said....either we are getting mariota or we can look towards the "strong WR" ....but we can't really get both in the draft.

 

[msdstc]

Any updates on Revis or McCourty?

Maybe being too optimistic, but DMC has been quiet because pats are supposedly in the lead. Revis would choose pats if money is equal or close.

 

[Pepiope]

11m from the latest report...only 2 mil more than what we offered. worth it imo. Maclin isn't more injury prone than most of the top receivers out there.

You don't suffer 2 ACL injuries on the same knee and get a similar payday. That shouldn't be expected.

 

[Duxxy3]

Any updates on Revis or McCourty?

Still Jets and Pats for Revis. Eagles and Pats for McCourty. Nothing new. Don't expect anything til Tuesday.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

It's a failure because they keep losing our top talent. Maybe Maclin wanted out and you can argue shady because of the cap hit but all three, in a short period of time, with no major off or on the field issues, is because of chip.

I don't see how you recover from that. They all are proven talent in a league where proven talent is hard to come by.

I gotta agree. It's one thing to can your best receiver, but doing it for the second year in a row and doing the same to your best runner at the same time?

The first thing cost them the playoffs. These two recent developments will probably cost them the playoffs. And I don't care how much people like Chip Kelly here in the forum or here in the state: he doesn't make it this year, and he very likely has one more chance before being canned himself and probably going back to college when it happens.

At this point, I doubt he pulls it off.

 

[JABEE]

The Eagles also have to hope Ertz can step up. I hope they start getting him the ball more.

He didn't get a lot of targets until the end of the season.

 

[jbug617]

latest on McCourty.

@shalisemyoung just heard from source that nothing is decided yet for Devin McCourty - multiple options being weighed, incl return to #patriots

 

[Fixed2BeBroken]

latest on McCourty.

if we don't get McCourty after all this bullshit...im going to be really sad..

 

[jbug617]

Colts and Darius Butler agree to an extension.

 

[Pepiope]

if we don't get McCourty after all this bullshit...im going to be really sad..

I mean, we can afford to throw in an extra 1-2M now to sweeten the deal.

 

[Duxxy3]

if we don't get McCourty after all this bullshit...im going to be really sad..

With Maclin's money freed up, Chip may just go ahead and overspend on McCourty. 12m a year and a ton of a guaranteed would be my guess.

 

[LyleLanley]

With Maclin's money freed up, Chip may just go ahead and overspend on McCourty. 12m a year and a ton of a guaranteed would be my guess.

I like McCourty but if he's getting offers like that I think I'd rather see him leave.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

The Eagles didn't screw up in picking Jordan Matthews last season. He has big potential. I wonder if he's going to move to the outside with Maclin gone.

Another strong WR draft coming up.

Matthews #1, Huff #2 and Cooper in slot. Cooper has the build for slot, even though he sucks. I think Huff has the speed to be a #2.

 

[Pepiope]

I like McCourty but if he's getting offers like that I think I'd rather see him leave.

I like your way of thinking.

 

[Jarnet87]

Don't the Raiders have like $60 million in cap space? Do they plan on doing anything.

signing a bunch of washed up vets. just wait, it will come.

 

[msdstc]

I like McCourty but if he's getting offers like that I think I'd rather see him leave.

Absolutely.

 

[Duxxy3]

I like McCourty but if he's getting offers like that I think I'd rather see him leave.

He's in the 9/10m range. Eagles would probably need to outbid that amount to get him away from New England.

 

[ChanDangle]

I'm not sold on Huff and definitely not Coop.

 

[JaMarco]

Sounds like McCourty is deciding on taking more money with Phily or taking a little less to stay home.

 

[MechDX]

Andre Johnson to the Eagles for a 5th

Then in. Separate deal: a 6th for Foles just for Jabee

 

[Sweeney Tom]

signing a bunch of washed up vets. just wait, it will come.

Has it been rumored that they've made offers to at least some of the people who already signed? That'd be less shameful than just standing there with all this money waiting until every noteworthy good name's been snatched up to move...again.

 

[Pepiope]

Jeremy Maclin, like Jackson and McCoy, put up career years while in Chip Kelly's offense. I think we can let Chip see this offense through before making any conclusions. The one thing that is getting fixed is the defense, which is way more important IMO.