MetalFearSolid
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Clearly they believe that O-Line can make any RB look good..
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Clearly they believe that O-Line can make any RB look good..
that's the truth
Fixed2BeBroken
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Naw, Cowboys fans just be like "oh, he's on the decline anyways, we got the best year out of him, yall can have him....he is also injury prone, blah blah"
Not for me. Dude had 400 carries this year. I would be upset if the Cowboys re-signed him at his asking price. Better value elsewhere.
BaltimoreLarry
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Can someone summarize the day? I missed everything. Who else did Baltimore lose?
LyleLanley
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"Antrel Rolle agrees to three year, $11.25M contract with Bears, per agent Drew Rosenhaus. $5M guaranteed." - @ProFootballTalk
MetalFearSolid
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Ex Pat speaking truth.
DeaconKnowledge
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To be fair he couldn't get on the field in NE so of course it was a step up.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
They probably wouldn't get it--Miami would probably just lose it.
Fixed2BeBroken
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<edit> that's not a real tweet btw.
That's not the definition of a troll... maybe in your mind it is.
I didn't say you called me a lifelong, I said you have a habit of name calling... I should have said labeling, it seems you label a lot is all.
Actually, you're right on the definition of troll, it's this:
I'd say making up a story about taking drugs at a pro athlete's house is pretty provocative, but that's just me.
I call things what they are. For example, you're a bootleg KHarvey.
Officerrob
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They ran him into the ground, very likely he breaks down. One of the many reasons I don't want him on the Raiders
WordsintheWater
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As a Cowboys fan I'd be pretty sad if he went anywhere, but going to the Eagles is a little more salt in the wound.
Squall ASF
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I want all these backs quickly signed and out of the way so that the AP situation comes to a head sooner. I'm tired of all the back and forth on the Cardinals forum about the possibility.
On that note, it seems like so many people online think Gordon and Gurley will go in the first round but backs have been really devalued in recent drafts, why are people thinking it will be different this year? Are those two that much better than the prospects last year for instance? Even if they were, Trent Truck was supposed to be a stud coming out and we all know how that's turned out...You think teams would stay the hell away from drafting one so early. That said, assuming we don't get AP (the likely scenario), those two backs would be on my thus far short list of who I'd be willing to take in the first or second round. Top priority is a pass rusher so long as a solid one drops but otherwise those two, Erving, or Marcus Peters if Keim doesn't think he'll drop to the second. I have a feeling we'll settle for Shipley with the confidence we have with the rest of our line so probably wouldn't be willing to take Erving where he's due to be picked.
On that note, it seems like so many people online think Gordon and Gurley will go in the first round but backs have been really devalued in recent drafts, why are people thinking it will be different this year? Are those two that much better than the prospects last year for instance? Even if they were, Trent Truck was supposed to be a stud coming out and we all know how that's turned out...You think teams would stay the hell away from drafting one so early. That said, assuming we don't get AP (the likely scenario), those two backs would be on my thus far short list of who I'd be willing to take in the first or second round. Top priority is a pass rusher so long as a solid one drops but otherwise those two, Erving, or Marcus Peters if Keim doesn't think he'll drop to the second. I have a feeling we'll settle for Shipley with the confidence we have with the rest of our line so probably wouldn't be willing to take Erving where he's due to be picked.
Aw man. I wanted the lions to get the KC treatment from the good ol loose lip Gunther Cunningham days.
I think the argument is that Gurley and Gordon are better than anyone from last year's class, but we'll see. Just from coincidental reading of tweets, etc. it seems to be the general opinion that this year's RB class has better top-end talent and is deeper than last year's.
Alligatorjandro
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What truth
LyleLanley
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Of course it's a step up, he's getting paid more.
Actually, you're right on the definition of troll, it's this:
I'd say making up a story about taking drugs at a pro athlete's house is pretty provocative, but that's just me.
I call things what they are. For example, you're a bootleg KHarvey.
there you go with the name calling. What would you call deliberately quoting a post and changing the content of said post? For example
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
If the Cowboys cant afford to keep Murray realistically how can they get Peterson?
He'd give any texas team a discount probably.
Squall ASF
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Let's be honest, there's a reason Murray hasn't received more offers and it's not just the money because Raiders and Jags wouldn't be deterred by that. The guy has been extremely injury prone and the one monster year he has and the only he stayed healthy was when Dallas finally built themselves the best line in the league. Even if he stayed healthy, it's really questionable how effective he'd be behind a porous line. I'm by no means saying there's no chance he's a beast and will stay healthy but it's certainly a sizable risk that prevents him from being the home run signing a guy with his numbers last year would normally be.
Himynameischris
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We can't afford Suh and yet....
Zvonimir Boban
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Vicious lies, dangerous rumors
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=155590027&postcount=12879
edit- woops backwards lol
I changed nothing about the content of the post. You waved the white flag on the argument about Deflategate, giving a completely dismissive response instead of actually responding to the content of the post, and then tried to spin it off into a completely unrelated topic about viruses or something.
So you posted a picture of a whiteflag as though I posted it therefore you changed the content of my post?
Did you or did you not give up on the Deflategate vs. Sherman suspension argument?
I don't get this move if it were to happen.
Aren't they still in cap hell? And didn't they just extend Ingram? Why not just draft a guy?
This makes even less sense.
So we got rid of our star stud RB because he was apparently eating up too much cap space plus was nearing the age where RBs might fall off....only to replace him with Ryan Mathews who is neve healthy and now Murray?
WTF?
Yeah I figure he is going to visit some teams and see what his value is but in the end the Pats will pick him up.
And he will be great for them.
this is the point that I can't get past either, but maybe the cowboys will give him a backloaded contract with a big signing bonus.
Can't wait to see the salt on Jerrys face when Demarco scores against them.
or his delight when Murray breaks into pieces from the wear and tear of last season.
So seems like the Eagles don't care about injury histories or risk related to injury prone guys.
If the Eagles sign him its because they plan to run the ball a ton (something I'd love), behind a top 5 OLINE (although missing a starting Guard), and in a scheme designed to open up huge running lanes.
So how some Eagles fans were like after McCoy was traded.
BTW I don't like this pick up at all.
I'd much rather save the cap space and draft Ameer or someone else later in the draft. Then again I have no clue what Chip is doing to retool and rebuild the offense. But I don't want this signing to deter any quality FA picks ups for the defense.
Would much rather hear about Brandon Browner and or Rahim Moore being signed.
I did not, I commented that your counter argument was very poorly put together, in other words, this is how I saw it.
Otherwise if you actually believed what you said I apologize my signals got crossed and here is what you actually posted.
Grover Cleveland
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This cdy-msdstc exchange has gone on way too long for such a silly subject.
It's been the better part of two pages now
It's been the better part of two pages now
The cap that it would've cost us to keep McCoy could possibly turn into Kiko, Matthews, and Murray.
This makes a whole heck of a lot of sense.
Though I doubt Murray comes here. DAL is only offering him 5M, he is trying to get them to raise that. Though, if he comes here for 6 or 7M....That'll be nice.
I'm guessing they'd try and use his suspension and the fact that he'd be running behind one of the best OLs in football (plus the fact that he's from Texas) to convince him to restructure.
You're gonna get upset about me changing your post to a white flag and then turn around and do the exact same thing? Come on now.
This is his game, which is why I called him KHarvey-lite. Argue semantics and tangents until the other person gets bored/tired, then declare yourself the internet winner.
I've made the playoffs before, what more do you want from me!?Bread has to make it into the playoffs first
The lions have an anthem. And it sure as hell does not involve "kid" "rock."
I think Dallas can afford to keep Murray but don't want to pay him the money he wants. AP they probably are willing to pay that much.
Its sad cause they are right and the Eagles are about to pay him money they weren't willing to pay McCoy. McCoy (IMO) is much much better than Murray. Again makes no sense.
With a side of reminding NFLGAF about the impending Restoration of the Roar.
MetalFearSolid
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Yeah was thinking the same especially when Matthews and Murray are virtual the same style RB. But Bradford wanted Murray though gotta make the franchise QB happy.
Zvonimir Boban
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A time machine so we can go back 5 hours and stop chris destroying the franchise
Squall ASF
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Yeah we sure take a lot of chances with guys coming off injuries too but at least ours are 1 year prove it deals or two year deals and aren't overly expensive. Orakpo might be an exception if we sign him. Murray however is expensive and it will be a decent length contract but having a good OL will significantly improve his chances for staying healthy, obviously. The Cowboys used him hard last season and if you guys did as well, I'd be surprised if he holds up but then again, I'm surprised he held up all last year so you never know!
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