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NFL Offseason Thread 3 - Drowney for Clowney Mech, Drowney for Clowney.
- Thread starter DeaconKnowledge
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LZ was just talking about Clowney. Said he talked to guy on a team in the top 10.
-Team wouldn't trade up for him and there would be a debate if he fell to them
-Lot of stuff covered up about his work ethic at South Carolina
-Diva, bad practice habits, people can't wait for him to leave
-Texans won't take him. Not their kind of player b/c of attitude
-He made sure to point out not everything you disagree with is a smokescreen. Guy he trusts gave him that info
-Team wouldn't trade up for him and there would be a debate if he fell to them
-Lot of stuff covered up about his work ethic at South Carolina
-Diva, bad practice habits, people can't wait for him to leave
-Texans won't take him. Not their kind of player b/c of attitude
-He made sure to point out not everything you disagree with is a smokescreen. Guy he trusts gave him that info
When I heard he wasn't working out because he was assured a high draft pick anyway, I figured as much. Manziel might pan out somehow, but Clowney's gonna bust.
Not saying they'll use all those picks, or the extra picks they have now but they'll use them to target specific players - namely a CB and ILB which are big needs for us and there is a limited amount of talent at that position in this draft.
I just don't think Farmer will want to tie himself to a 1st round QB in his first year on the job. It's the deathknell of GMs if they don't pan out. At least one taken with the the 26th or 2nd rounder wouldn't weigh as heavy upon him. Also, I think they're being sincere when they say Hoyer is capable of winning if given a good platform to work around.
I go back to the very first thing we heard about Farmer - he loved Mariota. I find usually the first thing you here is the truest in these kinds of cases. Maybe he'll make a big splash for him next year when the coaches are settled in and we already have talent ready to surround him.
That all said, could easily be Manziel or Bortles at 4. I read that Bortles had a 45 minute personal meeting with Haslam. I just don't like that approach personally.
Grover Cleveland
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Happy birthday bro! You too Chris! Even if you're a Fins fan.
Or just rotate him in on passing downs for Joseph. Can't have enough DTs if you ask me.
yankeehater
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Happy birthday Jabee and Chris.
ActStriker
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smokescreens
DeaconKnowledge
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In St. louis, yes means no.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
My daughter randomly decided she wanted to be awake from midnight to 2 AM last night. Thank goodness for coffee.
That doesn't seem very smart though, if they're trying to hold back what's going on...
I can't really afford to take a vacation and travel, and when I do take time off it's generally just to have a day off and I end up being lazy. My own fault I guess.
I'll be 32 later this month, and yeah, I know that's still time to figure things out, but I guess I'm just terrified of change again, making more wrong choices. what I have now is relatively safe, albeit I hate it, so I guess it's all pretty pointless. Oh well.
On a happier topic, it's nice out today, so I'm excited to get outside on my lunch break and read.
What are you reading?
PhoenixDark
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No way. Manziel doesn't have the work ethic to be a starter. His size requires him to be as serious as Russel Wilson but I don't believe he will show that level of dedication. At best he's a second round talent.
Clowney is a physical beast who shouldn't have even had to play college ball last season. I can understand why he got bored of it. He was good enough to be a top three pick last year.
Just made my post in the reading thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=110805406&postcount=108
I was kinda in that rut a few years ago. Had a job as a supervisor of a tech support team that was super safe, but not what I wanted. I had made a shitload of mistakes in life already.
Finally decided to go after what I really wanted and went back to school. Worse thing that can happen is you make another mistake, but then you keep on making choices, because you have to. And you're always going to have more mistakes, but that's life.
Alligatorjandro
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Happy birthday jabee and chris
Come join me in Ireland!
ActStriker
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Is that pretty much a sentiment of he's got that high of an upside that you can't really say no to?
Lets put it this way, if the Seahawks somehow drafted this guy, or the Niners, or the Pats, the focus would shift to how amazing he'll perform in their "systems," how he wasn't challenged at SC, how he was misused, blah blah blah.
The guy is fucking legit freak of nature, a complete wrecking machine. Give him to Pettine or Rex, Harbs or Carroll, and watch destruction ensue.
Dr_LawyerCop
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I think the one thing the Brown's can't do is trade back from 4. You either take one of the 4 elite prospects, or you get the first QB off the board. I wanted them to get Watkins from the start, but I'm coming around to the idea of JFF. I think they're a good QB away from being playoff contenders for the next decade. I don't know if JFF is that guy, but you have to take shots like that.
Wish I could find out "what I really wanted" I guess the biggest hurdle of taking the first step is actually knowing what direction to take.
It's depressing me here at work to realize that almost 2 years ago now I was flying back here from my best friends wedding, and had this revelation that I was hating my life more than I realized and needed a change, and it's been 2 years and nothing has changed. I'm stuck in my safe little rut and I'm terrified of getting out of it.
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That is a mighty interesting proposition. Would be fun!
I feel you. I was in a rut as well working a job I didn't like and then I got laid off and got a job doing the same shit different place. That's when I just up and decided to go to school in Ireland because I needed to drastically change things or I knew Id have trouble getting out.
I really don't know, so I'm curious how Mario did with Pettine last year. Did he get more out of him than they ever could in HOU?
Dick Vermeil was adored by every player he ever had, but could never get through to Lawrence Phillips. Fisher got Haynesworth to play hard but once nearly came to blows with VY. Some guys just don't change
Pretty much this.
Clowney is just the best pure physical athlete since AP/Megatron. LT was the biggest diva ever, but man he was such a good player.
I just think people comparing Clowney to M Williams is foolish, Clowney was considered the biggest threat on that USC(e) team since he signed up, and smart teams game planned for him on day one.
You've got my respect man, that is a big change no doubt. I know you'll be glad you did it. I'll be jealous when you share photos and tell of your golfing there!
Mario feasted on scrubs, but the entire D was put in position to succeed so Pettine helped everyone. It's not an effort thing with Mario, doesn't have a great motor by any means, but if you ask me he's just not that good.
With Rex/Pettine, you have room to freelance as a front 7 player, they let you do your thing when it comes to pass rush/blitz angles. Clowney felt he was used too tight to SC formation, wanted a wider angle, he won't have this excuse if he were on Pettine's team because he'll put him in positions he feels comfortable with. Mingo is going to explode this year.
On the flip side Warren Sapp, Randy Moss, and recently Dez Bryant are all examples of players succeeding even though they had question marks. I'll bet on high end talent with some question marks all day, however I won't stand for guys that quit or get in trouble with the law etc.
LT always played hard. That's the biggest question with Clowney
How old is she?
That honestly doesn't sound that horrible to me.
Though I have twins so my tolerance for bullshit is superhuman at this point.
ActStriker
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...that is the oddest combination ever
DeaconKnowledge
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Just wait until your daughter goes to sleep normally, then wakes up 2 hours later, goes back to sleep in 3 hours, then wakes up 15 minutes later, then takes another 2 hours to go to sleep before waking up at her usual morning time.
Grossi just said on the radio that he thinks trading down is their #1 aim at the moment.
If they moved down in the top 10 he said they'd move to their second group of talents - Evans, Robinson/Matthews or the top Corner they have rated.
Doesn't think they're interested in Manziel.
My kids have slept pretty well through the night for awhile now.
But since I gave them toddler beds with those damn escape hatches one of them wakes up in the middle of the night and instead of putting themselves back to sleep they walk to our room and crawl into our bed.
They put themselves to sleep again, but I am not a fan of kids in the bed.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
My 4 year old daughter will still occasionally try to sneak into our bed in the middle of the night, but for the most part she stays in her room. Her older brother used to do the same thing at around that age.
Gets a lot easier when they're 5/6 and older.
Gets a lot easier when they're 5/6 and older.
Speaking of babies, 
lol x :jnc) ^ :kas @ the Pacers confronting Hibbert and having to tell him to stop sucking balls.
We all scored as many points and had as many rebounds as that pile of shit did last night. Who by the way is 27 years old, an all star and 7 feet. How someone that big could not get a single rebound is astounding.
It is fucking crazy that they had to start begging and yelling at him to actually start playing like an NBA player.
Thats probably the worst thing I have read since Gata's last post.
lol x :jnc) ^ :kas @ the Pacers confronting Hibbert and having to tell him to stop sucking balls. We all scored as many points and had as many rebounds as that pile of shit did last night. Who by the way is 27 years old, an all star and 7 feet. How someone that big could not get a single rebound is astounding.
It is fucking crazy that they had to start begging and yelling at him to actually start playing like an NBA player.
Thats probably the worst thing I have read since Gata's last post.
PhoenixDark
Banned
http://www.prideofdetroit.com/2014/5/6/5684596/2014-nfl-draft-rumors-lions-mike-evans
why the fuck....
We can get a great WR in the second or third round. And if we need a first rounder why not trade back and get Odell Beckham Jr?
I severely doubt that'll happen, personally. All indications feel like Watkins or no trade.