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NFL Offseason Thread 3 - Drowney for Clowney Mech, Drowney for Clowney.
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Great post. People confuse their hate of the media with the hate towards the player. I find some things about JFF, but I think people who aren't fans let those things magnify b/c of the media attention
Fuck man, Gruden don't care any more. Now everybody else is getting drafted, so it's just a bunch of "This guy is a football......player".
The Artful Dodger
Member
Distribution of mentions of players in round 1 last night.
:jnc
seriously it was like every team..."Johnny Manziel, I know they have 5 quarterbacks but this kid, this kid..."
Future PhaZe
Member
Hope we take Lee unless an unbelievable trade down option shows itself
Yea, the defense is ass but nobody ever complained about having a luxury of wide outs in today's NFL and we looked good against Seattle despite our defensive issues before Griff went down.
Yea, the defense is ass but nobody ever complained about having a luxury of wide outs in today's NFL and we looked good against Seattle despite our defensive issues before Griff went down.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
First time I've ever been kind of annoyed with Gruden. I usually love him but man he would not shut up about Manziel. Every single pick he was brought up by Gruden.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
When I want good color, i'll go with Gruden. When I want player eval - Mayock.
Neither guy is good at the reverse.
Producers probably told him too. Also realize that we give too much credit to the discernment of the average ESPN viewer, ESPN wouldn't do this if it didn't work.
Who would the second be?
God no, I want no part of either of those
Why, NFL Network is way better.
Mayock actually nailed like the first 10 picks, accurately predicted Manziel drafted outside the top 15 same with bridgewater.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
2nd Mario Golf 3DS Greg Cup results:
1. XiaNaphryz -19
2. Issac -17
3. zemekis -11
4. c1 -7
Pulled ahead at the last minute again over Darkest Red to retain the trophy.
3rd Greg Cup tournament is up, Mountain Course. Tourney ends Monday 5/12 at midnight Pacific. Code is 13-1984-3457-6356.
1. XiaNaphryz -19
2. Issac -17
3. zemekis -11
4. c1 -7
Pulled ahead at the last minute again over Darkest Red to retain the trophy.
3rd Greg Cup tournament is up, Mountain Course. Tourney ends Monday 5/12 at midnight Pacific. Code is 13-1984-3457-6356.
ActStriker
Member
Oh crap, completely forgot about the 2nd Greg Cup
God dammit, draft is going to be in June next year.
Bridgewater, but he's gone!
Himynameischris
Member
I'm ready for day two!
can you set the amount of tourney attempts? if so, limit the 4th tournament to 1 attempt to switch things up a bit
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
I think my post history shows that I really dislike unwarranted and unearned arrogance (unless you really value college experience/awards....I'm primarily an NFL fan so I don't). As far as I'm concerned he's a young talent who hasn't proven anything yet like everyone else in this draft. You can blame his age for things but then why isn't every player this polarizing or needing to be defended for the things they've done? You can't put this solely on the media, Manziel definitely earned his reputation. Did people have the same questions about a guy like Luck or RG3? Weren't both of those guys high profile dudes under a microscope? Or is it possible that character issues caused Manziel to fall to 22?
BlackGhost
Banned
Crime down! business up! 10 years of prosperity in Cleveland!
I actually woudnt have minded that!
So i get into work today and my coworker is like jacked up about clowney, and im like who's gonna play quarterback? His response is defense wins championships. I'm like -_-
I loved the fun facts NFL Network had last night. Texans have spent 9 of 12 first round picks on Defense, and their the only team since 2006 to draft a defensive lineman first overall... the last team oh wait, the Texans did it in 06. No one else has done it since 2000. That should tell you something right there.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Unfortunately no, the only real way to try and limit that is to put in a super short end time (i.e. 30 minutes). If people can agree on a date/time and get in a score in that small window, that may actually work.
BannedEpisode
Member
Feeling better and better about bridgewater.
Forget Johnny Football, it's all about Teddy Touchdown.
Forget Johnny Football, it's all about Teddy Touchdown.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Also reminds me that the only reason I'd like Manziel to succeed is that I have a soft spot for the Browns. I have absolutely nothing against that franchise and seeing them have modest success would be great for the game.
manfestival
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is it finally safe to post in here?
safe how? it's always been safe!
http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/09/johnny-manziel-celebrating-with-drake-after-nfl-draft/
Here you go. JFF and Drake partying after the draft
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
OrangeJulius
Member
Whaaaat? That's crazy talk. Say what you will about Stafford, but he is a proven commodity. No unproven rookie comes in and immediately overtakes a guy with Staffords proven track record. Same goes for Cutler.
BannedEpisode
Member
I hope he pans out. Would be so nice to not worry about QB for 5 years or so.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
manfestival
Member
twas madness the past couple of days!
Shit it doesn't end there. BOB is supposedly infatuated with Bruce Ellington from UoSC as a slot guy in the 3rd round.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
Are you referring to his proven track record at Chipotle maybe. Or his knack for injuries, losing, sidearm throws, and jump passes to the best receiver since Jerry Rice?
Cutler you may have a point with, maybe 2a and 2b.
yankeehater
Member
McShay said the Texans will take him even though Carr is the better prospect just because of who Carr's brother is. Seems like a terrible way to make decisions to me.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
#JFF #BORNABROWN #DAWGPOUND
Why do you think he is more arrogant than the average CFB star? I guess my point is when someone gets as much media coverage as Manziel it is hard to separate the player from the annoyance over people never shutting up about him.
Also, the media is very good at building narratives. Lets take arrogance.
-They will selectively quote all statements that indicate arrogance, and never mention more humble statements
-They will ask trap questions that one can only appear arrogant in answering. For example, "Do you feel teams that pass on you are making a mistake?" Whereas for another player they would ask a less loaded question like, "What do you think you can contribute to teams that are considering you in the draft?"
-They will non-stop play footage of celebrations on the field any time they need to fill in with a clip. They won't play clips of a player showing encouragement to teammates, etc. Lets take Manziel. They play two types of clips for manziel. Him celebrating and him salvaging a busted play with his athleticism. Why don't they play clips of him sitting calmly in the pocket, or him getting sacked? Or him calmly talking to coaches or the thousands of other things he does in a game? Because it doesn't fit the narrative they have built about him.
The media has a lot of power in influencing perception. See how they hid MJs or Tiger's flaws. They can go both ways. I think it is fair to say about any player with a whole lot of media coverage is that they aren't as bad as the coverage implies if they are negative, and they probably aren't as good either as the coverage implies if the coverage is positive.