He probably can't even do that right.
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NFL Offseason Thread 3 - Drowney for Clowney Mech, Drowney for Clowney.
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He probably can't even do that right.
Coldnoodle
Member
Marvin Jones looked alright.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
How has Sanu been?
Grover Cleveland
Member
Since I love the Brownies, I'll offer yall a deal.
Tavarres King and a pack of gum for a 2015 6th rounder
Tavarres King and a pack of gum for a 2015 6th rounder
id take any bengals receiver over the best browns receiever
Where's your avatar?
Redskins acquire Cody Hoffman WR BYU.
Overview
Had a reception in 43 consecutive games to finish college career. 2013: Honorable mention FBS All-Independent choice after recording 894 yards receiving and five touchdowns. Was suspended for one game for violation of team rules. 2012: Had 100 receptions for 1,248 yards (ranking second in school history behind Austin Collie, 2008) and 11 touchdowns. 2011: Started all 13 games and led team in receptions (61), yards (943) and touchdowns (10). Had five 100-yard receiving games. 2010: Played in 13 games with 10 starts. Led team with 527 receiving yards. 2009: Redshirted.
Strengths
Outstanding size with long arms. Extends outside his frame and can snag throws outside his body. Wide catching radius. Deceptively quick coming out of breaks. Has NFL pedigree. Experienced, four-year starter. Played through a shoulder injury during 2011 and '12 seasons. Is tough and durable.
Weaknesses
Comes off the line too gingerly and will struggle beating NFL press coverage. Limited agility to shake defenders releasing and does not create in space. Monotone route runner. Many of his catches are contested (minimal separation). Does not play to his size in the run game -- uses too much finesse as a blocker. Average athlete with limited burst and explosion. Average leaping ability. Must learn what it means to be a pro and could benefit from committing more to the craft.
Bottom Line
A big, outside-the-numbers possession receiver with good length and hand-eye coordination to fend for a roster spot as a No. 4 or No. 5 receiver.
Overview
Had a reception in 43 consecutive games to finish college career. 2013: Honorable mention FBS All-Independent choice after recording 894 yards receiving and five touchdowns. Was suspended for one game for violation of team rules. 2012: Had 100 receptions for 1,248 yards (ranking second in school history behind Austin Collie, 2008) and 11 touchdowns. 2011: Started all 13 games and led team in receptions (61), yards (943) and touchdowns (10). Had five 100-yard receiving games. 2010: Played in 13 games with 10 starts. Led team with 527 receiving yards. 2009: Redshirted.
Strengths
Outstanding size with long arms. Extends outside his frame and can snag throws outside his body. Wide catching radius. Deceptively quick coming out of breaks. Has NFL pedigree. Experienced, four-year starter. Played through a shoulder injury during 2011 and '12 seasons. Is tough and durable.
Weaknesses
Comes off the line too gingerly and will struggle beating NFL press coverage. Limited agility to shake defenders releasing and does not create in space. Monotone route runner. Many of his catches are contested (minimal separation). Does not play to his size in the run game -- uses too much finesse as a blocker. Average athlete with limited burst and explosion. Average leaping ability. Must learn what it means to be a pro and could benefit from committing more to the craft.
Bottom Line
A big, outside-the-numbers possession receiver with good length and hand-eye coordination to fend for a roster spot as a No. 4 or No. 5 receiver.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Running a 4.92 forty, with a 25,5 inch vert and a 9 ft 6 in broad jump seem like pretty obvious reasons, and are kinda fair.
Coldnoodle
Member
Serviceable.
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Alligatorjandro
Banned
I like football
Grover Cleveland
Member
Panthers' UDFA so far
Texas CB Carrington Byndom
Ohio State WR Corey Brown
Montreal Carabins OL David Foucault*
Miami OL Jared Wheeler
Missouri WR Marcus Lucas
*Hasn't yet signed a contract but will be present at rookie minicamp
I'll post my (semi) serious draft review in a bit
Texas CB Carrington Byndom
Ohio State WR Corey Brown
Montreal Carabins OL David Foucault*
Miami OL Jared Wheeler
Missouri WR Marcus Lucas
*Hasn't yet signed a contract but will be present at rookie minicamp
I'll post my (semi) serious draft review in a bit
YES I wanted Coyle!! Awesome!!
I believe brother, I believe!! Super pumped about KPL especially!!
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
Gawd damn
PhoenixDark
Banned
This is it, no more excuses for Stafford. He now has:
-Megatron
-Golden Tate
-Eric Ebron
-Reggie Bush
-Joquie Bell
-Joseph Fauria
(and whoever will be the #3 WR)
You could give that to Tony fucking Romo and get 5,000 yards, 40+ TDs and a top 5-10 offense in the league.
When I look at the schedule I see 8 wins, but obviously things change; I saw 8 wins last year when we should have gotten 9-10 due to the other QBs in our division literally dying; instead we got 7. The Lions have put all their chips on an explosive offense. If it doesn't translate into 10 wins and a playoff berth, it's a failure. I think Caldwell and Mayhew get two years at the most to do something (playoff win). If that doesn't happen they need to be broomed out, Stafford is gone, and we will have wasted Megatron's prime.
All or nothing time.
-Megatron
-Golden Tate
-Eric Ebron
-Reggie Bush
-Joquie Bell
-Joseph Fauria
(and whoever will be the #3 WR)
You could give that to Tony fucking Romo and get 5,000 yards, 40+ TDs and a top 5-10 offense in the league.
When I look at the schedule I see 8 wins, but obviously things change; I saw 8 wins last year when we should have gotten 9-10 due to the other QBs in our division literally dying; instead we got 7. The Lions have put all their chips on an explosive offense. If it doesn't translate into 10 wins and a playoff berth, it's a failure. I think Caldwell and Mayhew get two years at the most to do something (playoff win). If that doesn't happen they need to be broomed out, Stafford is gone, and we will have wasted Megatron's prime.
All or nothing time.
Buckethead
Banned
Stafford's problem has never been production, it's been getting winded in the 4th and making dumb shit decisions because he's a fat piece of shit with no discipline.
Lions are putting it all on the table for a "run" they can finish. Stupid as fuck.
Lions are putting it all on the table for a "run" they can finish. Stupid as fuck.
First off I still stand by my point that Ebron is going to be a receiver, Jimmy Graham style.
Second off no one has PMed the avatar which I agree to change. I've been busy and saw one avatar but no one has given me a final avatar till the season starts.
WesternHeretic
Member
Well Utah finally has something I like.
I'll be posting more complete draft thoughts in a little while, after I finish my check-in at work, but this is a good place to start with my thoughts as well. Frankly I'm not sure I'd even give them two years. And there is no convincing me at this point that the selection of Eric Ebron is not a complete waste of one of the most important team-improving resources we had. Stupid, useless, and more infuriating the more I think about it.
sky is blue, grass is green, etc
WesternHeretic
Member
When I was in HS they were like 4-5 Mormon kids at my school. They were all hideous and terribly awkward.
Coldnoodle
Member
We don't like your kind around here.
Combine stats are important but not the be all end all.
You can have track athletes that kill at a combine but can't play football. And there are players that have bad combine stats but are football players.
Put aside the combine stats for a second: he was SEC first team defense. He did his work on the field and should've gotten drafted higher than the 7th round.
Also someone PM me the avatar por favor so I can change it.
That's how it was from my experience as well.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
you should trade a first for a running back who sucks. I'm sure that will help your team
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Dammit Sam, get that shirt out of your pants. You're not a 40+ year old dad.
BlackGhost
Banned
LOL. Jason White won the Heisman and went undrafted. There are plenty of examples on the defensive side as well. He also racked up a good portion of his stats against weaker teams. Some guys just don't translate to the pros.
brady & belichick retiring together next year is going to crush you
Steelers draft summary -
Coming in, the consensus was that the Steelers would select a corner and wr in the first two rounds. Well, that didn't happen. Pittsburgh has, hopefully had, needs at pretty much every defensive position but safety. On offense, a weapon or a tall wr was wanted, but not truly necessary.
Onto the picks:
Rd 1 - #15(15) Ryan Shazier (OLB) Ohio St
Last year, when the Steelers played nickel or dime, Troy Polamalu was forced to play lb, where he is not exactly great. Well, that problem is solved. Shazier is fast, athletic and a great character guy. Had a long talk with my brother about him moving to safety from lb, ala Carnell Lake or Jack Tatum. I don't think that'll happen, but it could be an option.
Rd 2 - #14(46) Stephon Tuitt (DE) Notre Dame
Ziggy Hood never panned out as a number one pick a few years back. He left in free agency. Brett Keisel was not resigned. Tuitt had good production at Notre Dame and should be a good DE in the Steelers' scheme.
Rd 3 - #33(97) Dri Archer (RB) Kent St
A bit of a puzzling pick here. I'm sure the Steelers had this guy targeted and I thought they'd take him. Just not this high. Archer has ridiculous speed. He can play rb and wr. But initially, he'll be a sub package weapon and a returner.
Rd 4 - #18(118) Martavis Bryant (WR) Clemson
The fact that Bryant fell to this position makes my comments about Dri irrelevant. Just thought they'd take them in reverse order. Bryant is the tall receiver Steeler fans have been clamoring for. Hopefully, he can be an immediate redzone option.
Rd 5 - #17(157) Shaquille Richardson (CB) Arizona
And now, the picks get iffy. Richardson is a project. The Steelers will be going into next year's draft still needing a cb, I fear.
Rd 5 - #33(173) Wesley Johnson (C) Vanderbilt
Started at all offensive line positions in college, so Johnson offers good options there. Munchak likes him, so maybe he can make the practice squad.
Rd 6 - #16(192) Jordan Zumwalt (OLB) UCLA
Played for Lou Spanos in college, who is a former lb coach for the Steelers, adding some familiarity. Plays with passion and knocked Logan Thomas the fuck out. Better be able to play special teams, because the linebacker room is looking stacked.
Rd 6 - #39(215) Dan McCullers (DT) Tennessee
Big as a house. A developmental NT in Pittsburgh. If he can keep his weight under control and get his technique straight, could become a mainstay.
Rd 7 - #15(230) Rob Blanchflower (TE) UMass
Rob Gronkflower. Can block and catch but isn't the greatest athlete. Once again, better be able to play special teams or he's going to be relying on his college degree.
Overall, I think the Steelers added 3 or 4 guys who will be playing the league for a long time. If 1 or 2 of the late picks pan out, it'll be a great draft.
Coming in, the consensus was that the Steelers would select a corner and wr in the first two rounds. Well, that didn't happen. Pittsburgh has, hopefully had, needs at pretty much every defensive position but safety. On offense, a weapon or a tall wr was wanted, but not truly necessary.
Onto the picks:
Rd 1 - #15(15) Ryan Shazier (OLB) Ohio St
Last year, when the Steelers played nickel or dime, Troy Polamalu was forced to play lb, where he is not exactly great. Well, that problem is solved. Shazier is fast, athletic and a great character guy. Had a long talk with my brother about him moving to safety from lb, ala Carnell Lake or Jack Tatum. I don't think that'll happen, but it could be an option.
Rd 2 - #14(46) Stephon Tuitt (DE) Notre Dame
Ziggy Hood never panned out as a number one pick a few years back. He left in free agency. Brett Keisel was not resigned. Tuitt had good production at Notre Dame and should be a good DE in the Steelers' scheme.
Rd 3 - #33(97) Dri Archer (RB) Kent St
A bit of a puzzling pick here. I'm sure the Steelers had this guy targeted and I thought they'd take him. Just not this high. Archer has ridiculous speed. He can play rb and wr. But initially, he'll be a sub package weapon and a returner.
Rd 4 - #18(118) Martavis Bryant (WR) Clemson
The fact that Bryant fell to this position makes my comments about Dri irrelevant. Just thought they'd take them in reverse order. Bryant is the tall receiver Steeler fans have been clamoring for. Hopefully, he can be an immediate redzone option.
Rd 5 - #17(157) Shaquille Richardson (CB) Arizona
And now, the picks get iffy. Richardson is a project. The Steelers will be going into next year's draft still needing a cb, I fear.
Rd 5 - #33(173) Wesley Johnson (C) Vanderbilt
Started at all offensive line positions in college, so Johnson offers good options there. Munchak likes him, so maybe he can make the practice squad.
Rd 6 - #16(192) Jordan Zumwalt (OLB) UCLA
Played for Lou Spanos in college, who is a former lb coach for the Steelers, adding some familiarity. Plays with passion and knocked Logan Thomas the fuck out. Better be able to play special teams, because the linebacker room is looking stacked.
Rd 6 - #39(215) Dan McCullers (DT) Tennessee
Big as a house. A developmental NT in Pittsburgh. If he can keep his weight under control and get his technique straight, could become a mainstay.
Rd 7 - #15(230) Rob Blanchflower (TE) UMass
Rob Gronkflower. Can block and catch but isn't the greatest athlete. Once again, better be able to play special teams or he's going to be relying on his college degree.
Overall, I think the Steelers added 3 or 4 guys who will be playing the league for a long time. If 1 or 2 of the late picks pan out, it'll be a great draft.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
not as much as Luck is going to get crushed
Yes but that'll be by Clowney & Watt. You only get one team per division and you already have Jacksonville!
Already investing in that Jag D, I see.
Dammit Sam, get that shirt out of your pants. You're not a 40+ year old dad.
...he looks like a 40 Year old Straight Man.
Dutch Gronk
Banned
We wouldnt put a team together the way Indianapolis did it, BB says when asked about QB succession
#Burn
With the Bucs, the draft was all offense. As it should have been. The talent on the defense is there; they've already made several improvements in FA, particularly on the d-line. They needed to rebuild this offense and that's what they did.
Evans and ASJ were solid picks. Not hard to see the philosophy with these picks; huge, big-ass targets for McCown to throw to. It probably won't be a particularly explosive offense, but if everything pans out as they should, holy hell it is going to be hard to defend. Having a 6'5 Mike Evans lined up on other teams 2nd corners should be a huge advantage for him. A huge ASJ open in the middle of the field should also make plays.
Again, I'm still iffy on the Charles Sims pick. May be wary after Martin's (and Mike James' for that matter) injury, but this seemed to be a position where we had a decent amount of depth. His versatility will be appreciated, and if he becomes a good player then all for him, but still...think somebody else may have been better here.
Fifth round was about the o-line. Kadeem Edwards fills a glaring hole at guard, but I'm not really sure why they went with him instead of David Yankey. Then they traded back up into the fifth to take David Pamphile, which was puzzling. Though I'm admittedly not too familiar with him.
Really liked the Robert Herron pick in the sixth. Put the speedster in the slot, and he may make some big plays down the field while defenders are trying to defend the bigger guys.
Overall I'm happy. Bucs didn't have many picks, and I think they did about as much with them as they could have.
Evans and ASJ were solid picks. Not hard to see the philosophy with these picks; huge, big-ass targets for McCown to throw to. It probably won't be a particularly explosive offense, but if everything pans out as they should, holy hell it is going to be hard to defend. Having a 6'5 Mike Evans lined up on other teams 2nd corners should be a huge advantage for him. A huge ASJ open in the middle of the field should also make plays.
Again, I'm still iffy on the Charles Sims pick. May be wary after Martin's (and Mike James' for that matter) injury, but this seemed to be a position where we had a decent amount of depth. His versatility will be appreciated, and if he becomes a good player then all for him, but still...think somebody else may have been better here.
Fifth round was about the o-line. Kadeem Edwards fills a glaring hole at guard, but I'm not really sure why they went with him instead of David Yankey. Then they traded back up into the fifth to take David Pamphile, which was puzzling. Though I'm admittedly not too familiar with him.
Really liked the Robert Herron pick in the sixth. Put the speedster in the slot, and he may make some big plays down the field while defenders are trying to defend the bigger guys.
Overall I'm happy. Bucs didn't have many picks, and I think they did about as much with them as they could have.
BannedEpisode
Member
Dude was deep undercover for like 23 years. Gonna pick up some of those traits over that time.
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...s-jack-penn-state-coach-replacing-joe-paterno
Impressive that he deals with this and is an NFL head coach now. I still feel having Texas Childrens Hospital in Houston helped with his decision.
Straight men have a look now? Typical racist Boston fan.
BannedEpisode
Member
That is horrible.
Its not the same thing but my mother is mentally and physically disabled due to a stroke. Epilepsy and the challenges that go along with brain related injuries and conditions are incredibly difficult for everyone involved.