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Seriously, a Kindle was one of my best decisions.
Futurevoid
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Fuck, there goes any sleep tonight.
Belichick cannot smile, so it would take something like that to bring it out of him.
Sounds like the perfect QB to me!
I'd be happy with their 2nd this year (for Cyprien!) and their 2nd next year. It's next year that I'd really want to stockpile picks if for no other reason than to use them to move further up.
Their 1st pick in 2014 straight up would be the best scenario.
Supposedly that is what SF wants to do with all their picks. Use value of 2013 2nd and 3rd rounds to get picks in 2014. But the Chiefs can't get anything close to what STL got for RG3. I don't think, if someone is selling, that Clwoney, Bridgewater or Boyd will be cheap next year, either. I think I am forgetting someone as well. 2013 is a good year to tank. Not making fun, but OAK fans will probably be happy by the end of the year
edit: just looking at Walter Football
ASJ, Jake Matthews, Lee could be top 10 picks in this draft, right now as well
edit2: Little tidbit. Eagles interviewed Kevin Sumlin while Chip was still making up his mind. So that's a coach that could be in play next year
Have read they really like the Joekel. Gotta figure they take Fisher is he's there as well
DeaconKnowledge
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Steelers would give up too much to get higher and there really isn't much there. I really hope that whatever the Steelers do, they don't reach. For obvious reasons i'm confident they won't.
No one really knows what happens at #1 since KC could trade it. But would you want Fisher at 3? Most stuff I've seen has Floyd going there
BlackGhost
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Are we having a new thread for the draft next week? Or just continuing with this?
Edit: I guess we're technically not even half way to a new thread, post count wise.
Edit: I guess we're technically not even half way to a new thread, post count wise.
Buckethead
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I was thinking about it but yeah we're half way and it doesn't add much.
I'd really like to do a more in-depth analysis of the draft/roster moves for the week 1 thread though (or at least closer to the season).
I liked that last year.
AngmarsKing701
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Would the draft + analysis constitute the kind of thread EviLore is talking about having in OT, or would it be paired alongside this hive of insular villainy in Community?
B For Bendetta
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I don't think NFL-age has the false sense of self importance NBA-age has
Also I know I'm quite a few years too late on it, but the last book I read was Franzen's The Corrections. What a phenomenal, perspective changing read. John Updike's Rabbit novels are really important to me too. Especially growing up in a divorced household and seeing how ostracized my father has become, and seeing the beginning signs of it in myself. Got a nook, but never really used it. I hear the Kindle is way better.
Also I know I'm quite a few years too late on it, but the last book I read was Franzen's The Corrections. What a phenomenal, perspective changing read. John Updike's Rabbit novels are really important to me too. Especially growing up in a divorced household and seeing how ostracized my father has become, and seeing the beginning signs of it in myself. Got a nook, but never really used it. I hear the Kindle is way better.
I want either Fisher or Star at 3. Lets be honest here, Floyd was a 2nd rounder before the combine. The guy did NOT produce in college. I honestly rather have big boy Star in the middle stuffing runs. Most those draft experts had Star as the best player available in the 2013 draft until that heart condition shit came up. Now nobody talks about the guy. He's not flashy but he's as Gruden says, a football player. If he's anywhere near as good as Ngata, he's better than Floyd.
goldlion054
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Really, if any of you top 4 guys lets Fischer fall to 5, that would be super. If anyone has any tout among their franchises, now is the time to use it. Let me be happy!
I think we should probably have a draft thread. There will be casual fans who will be interested. Probably not an OT thread, but something in Community that people can see in the title
More tidbits from podcasts and such:
-Arians will take Fluker if he can't get one of the top 3. Like physical maulers in run game. Supposedly he likes to run more than he has in PITT and IND, but lines always prevented it
-Jets OC really wants Austin. Will test where power of org is, as Rex really wants a pass rusher. Could be moot after Revis trade, since they can get both
-No one with the Browns likes Weeden. They want to move on, but it won't be in first round. But they are looking to replace him ASAP
I'd rather have Star as well, but I was hearing stuff about Floyd pre-combine. Everyone likes him except for the short arms
More tidbits from podcasts and such:
-Arians will take Fluker if he can't get one of the top 3. Like physical maulers in run game. Supposedly he likes to run more than he has in PITT and IND, but lines always prevented it
-Jets OC really wants Austin. Will test where power of org is, as Rex really wants a pass rusher. Could be moot after Revis trade, since they can get both
-No one with the Browns likes Weeden. They want to move on, but it won't be in first round. But they are looking to replace him ASAP
I'd rather have Star as well, but I was hearing stuff about Floyd pre-combine. Everyone likes him except for the short arms
goldlion054
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Explain por favor
Dutch Gronk
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Is there like an award for 'Looking like the biggest douchebag' at Coachella?
Star > Floyd; although Floyd would be a definite lock for the Raiders if Al were drafting, he's an athletic freak. Al made the mistake once of drafting Huff over Ngata, now they're on the same team ironically.
Already explained, Lions' shitty management made Barry quit, I will forever hate the Lions because of that.
ZootedGranny
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Obviously pulling this out of my ass, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Chiefs took something like a 2nd rounder and a 4th to move into the 10-14 range.
In Romeo Crennel news:
You already have Stafford. Now you're just being greedy. :kas
BlackGhost
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Squicken what podcast are you referring to?
goldlion054
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You can't blame the fans for that. I think its pretty well documented that the ownership is awful. Too much faith in impotent leadership. Look at Wayne Fontes and Mtt Millen. No owner should have ever stuck with them for any extended period. But here I am (and other Lions fans) dealing with it. No one wanted to see Barry retire, but thems the breaks. We as fans suffered far more than you do as a fan of just Barry Sanders
Lance Zierlein had Adam Caplan on his show today and they did a full mock draft, dropping tidbits and such. Remember, LZ's dad works with the Cards and Caplan and Banner know each other. So certain things they are better on than others
http://www.sports790.com/cc-common/...st=041613_CharlieLance_1_1366156234_12509.mp3
Also, Charlie Campbell from Walter Football and Matt Williamson from ESPN did a live mock draft today as well
http://t.co/pFbYaCZsUr
I saw that earlier. It was so obvious they should have never hired Romeo. Just too much of a players' coach. OC was also terrible. But maybe they sneak into the playoffs?
Wayne Fontes was the one that convinced management to draft Barry. Otherwise you woulda gotten the other Sanders, Deion. So I hate Wayne Fontes most, Lions fans should be thanking him for GOAT Barry.
BannedEpisode
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I cant make a draft thread. Im still drained from this one.
I didn't see if these were posted earlier, sorry if I'm reposting, but NFL.com put out their game movie trailers for 2013 today.
Here's the Patriots vs. Broncos trailer, 'Slot Machines'.
Here's the Patriots vs. Broncos trailer, 'Slot Machines'.
Buckethead
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That's what I had in mind for a "pre-season" launch thread.
Reminding everyone what happened in the draft, what happened since, and what GAF lifelongs(TM) think of their team and their chances in 2013.
So I think it'd be best to hold off.
sf2fanatic
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We still got CJ-2k at RB. Little hope. Unless we get lucky and draft Lacy
BannedEpisode
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Thats a good plan.
HarryDemeanor
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I'm going to be dreaming about this tonight.
Someone needs to make a GAF group on http://predictpick.nfl.com/groups/directory
NBA age is just filled with really angry assholes. When I first joined I gravitated more to NBA side because it used to be hilarious. But now it is just a bunch of assholes who jump on everything.
One of the problems is the statistics movement in basketball. If it is this bad NBA side God knows what goes in the MLB thread.
Thankfully the NFL still exists, where luck and "clutchness" are still the most important elements of any championship. Praise Tebow for a one game take all playoff format. That is what hurts the NBA and MLB the most. In a 7 game series the best team is almost always going to win. In one game anything can and does happen.
Who gives a fuck about your good decisions.
Other then being a Ravens fan tell us about some of your bad decisions.
ActStriker
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isn't he a Colts fan
MLB-GAF is the friendliest community group on this board.
The only people that get shit on are the inevitable lifelongs come WS.
Same thing.
Even I behave in MLB GAF. Only people I shit on are Brewers.
Wow thats impressive if you guys can get ez to behave.
I "behave" because there is intelligent discussion to be had with the vast majority of people in that thread (vast majority of baseball fans, really). This thread is for knuckle-draggers and mouth breathers and the only thing you people respond to is brute force and humiliation.
Love you guys.
I guess I should have specified. The only humans I shit on are Brewers. Sub-human sewer suckers are not exempt from my ire.
Love you guys.
I guess I should have specified. The only humans I shit on are Brewers. Sub-human sewer suckers are not exempt from my ire.
yankeehater
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If only the universe was unsafe for Durbin. sigh
Edit: The Phils get more grief than any other team in thread by far. There is a huge number of posters from the other NL East teams.
Yeah the NBA threads are unbearable especially with the group of Lakers fans and anti-Heat fans just yelling and crying about the same thing over and over.
Anyway there is an excellent Sal Pal interview with the Eagles PR guy Dave Spadaro on the Eagles website:
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/m...irection/4a2c1881-1d0a-4002-9171-483e5201a5d3
Some interesting notes:
- Sal Pal says how he hasn't seen such a change from top to bottom before in the NFL when a new HC comes in. Only thing even close to resembling it was when Mangini and his serious regime was replaced by the clown show of Rex Ryan
- Never seen so much detailed change from how players eat to what and how they work out; referring to the navy seal ex marines trainer brought in for strength and conditioning
- Dave admitted that there is new buzz and energy that was lacking even from the new players the past few years. That everything had become stale from the practices to the locker room. This is the first time he has ever admitted anything about the Reid regime not being amazing.
- Dave also admitted that back in 99 he and the PR department knew at least a week before the draft that McNabb was going to be the pick. They were told to make the highlight reels and prepare the fluff pieces. No such thing right now with Chip. No indication of who they will pick
- Sal Pal's feeling on the # 4 pick: assuming Reid takes Joeckel, the Eagles take Fisher if he is available. If Fisher is gone then Dion Jordan. If both Jordan and Fisher are gone then the phone will be ringing off the hook with the Eagles possibly looking to trade down and teams looking to move up for Geno.
- While he won't be shocked if they picked Geno Smith, he seems to think they will focus on the DL/OL since this is more of a draft for the trenches. Says nothing dooms a coach, especially a first time coach, more and faster than missing on a QB. Unless they are sure about Geno no need to risk it.
The "grief" Phillies fans get is generally for being baseball Luddites and is generally done in a considerate (if not condescending) fashion. Like patting the slow kid on the head as you try to teach them the alphabet.
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