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[The_Darkest_Red]

Good points on both sides but I'd say Fisher is the safer and smarter option.

 

[JABEE]

Bucs coach Greg Schiano is picking Darrelle Revis up at the Tampa International Jet Center right now

https://twitter.com/RCummingsTBO/status/326040698489028608

snes Freakout!!!!

Schiano is getting his man.

More:

You'd have to think that if Schiano is picking Revis up this trade has to be all but agreed to

https://twitter.com/RCummingsTBO/status/326041149984890881

The intrigue. The draft!

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I really enjoyed this debate. I really want to chose a defensive guy, but none stand out. Fisher is safe, and I think the earlier you pick, the more you stay true to BPA

I say go defense. Why go out of your way to protect Gabbert? He's horseshit anyway. Solid defense will help keep them in games and is harder to build than an oline.

 

[slightconfuse]

2000 Baltimore Ravens say hi, granted they did have Priest Holmes and Jamal Lewis. Really all they had to do was not turn over the ball.

Jaguars d is no where near 2000 ravens. JAgs need O to play all 4 quaters cant rely on D to save them

 

[squicken]

We can go with Fisher, that seems to be the consensus pick, but Dion Jordan is my pick. I feel like Bradley would want to go with a defensive player, but with a rookie GM, it's possible they'll want to play it safe and draft a franchise tackle.

Like FV said, debate is what this is all about. We've had a good one on this pick and can now see where we all stand and make the pick. Now when Jordan is the pick, or turns out great, you can lord it over the rest of us

 

[Goro Majima]

I think the Jags just need to trade down if possible. Need to save up those picks for the new Los Angeles Jaguars.

I'm 99% serious too, the Jaguars have so many holes and are going to have the misfortune of competing against Luck the next decade and a half.

 

[MechDX]

I think the Jags just need to trade down if possible. Need to save up those picks for the new Los Angeles Jaguars.

I'm 99% serious too, the Jaguars have so many holes and are going to have the misfortune of competing against Luck the next decade and a half.

I was going to me some snarky remark but then I remembered the Texans are in the same division so the Jags will still face Luck every season. Andrew Coming Home Tour 2016!

"Keep my seat warm bitch!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ImCpNqbJw

 

[BlackGhost]

Why hasn't Gata put his 2 cents in yet? But pretty sure the gata would want Dion too

 

[squicken]

I think the Jags just need to trade down if possible. Need to save up those picks for the new Los Angeles Jaguars.

I'm 99% serious too, the Jaguars have so many holes and are going to have the misfortune of competing against Luck the next decade and a half.

No trades. And we are really split on this. Need a few more folks to chime in. The choice is Jordan or Fisher

 

[Colonel Nasty]

https://twitter.com/RCummingsTBO/status/326040698489028608

snes Freakout!!!!

Schiano is getting his man.

https://twitter.com/RCummingsTBO/status/326041149984890881

The intrigue. The draft!

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes. Still need the compensation though.

 

[Colasante]

I think it's 9 votes for Eric Fisher so far, and 3 votes for Dion Jordan.

 

[Futurevoid]

I say go defense. Why go out of your way to protect Gabbert? He's horseshit anyway.

Yeah, let him die and get sacked 70 times. Same for the next QB they waste a draft pick on when they have no tackle talent to protect him.

can't wait to see what the total package is for revis

Haha the lone 3 :/

Like Squicken said, think how much you make fun of us if they do go Jordan!

 

[BlackGhost]

can't wait to see what the total package is for revis

I think it's 9 votes for Eric Fisher so far, and 3 votes for Dion Jordan.

Haha the lone 3 :/

 

[chuckddd]

I'm voting for Monty Brewster.

 

[squicken]

I think it's 9 votes for Eric Fisher so far, and 3 votes for Dion Jordan.

I feel like the passion has been on the side of Jordan. The Fisher votes are mostly shoulder shrugs. If no one else chimes in we'll go Fisher. I'll give it 5 minutes are so. But generally we're going to try and keep it moving

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I just cant see the Jags drafting a guy who will be a RT for a few years.

I say Dion Jordan, but I dont think he's that good for the Jags.

 

[Rorschach]

Are you guys doing a mock based on what you think will happen or what you would do?

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Yeah, let him die and get sacked 70 times. Same for the next QB they waste a draft pick on when they have no tackle talent to protect him.!

Yeah, the league is sure to miss Blaine Gabbert!

 

[chuckddd]

I certainly think that Jordan is the more likely pick. I also think he's the more likely bust.

 

[squicken]

Really good debate on this one, bros. Really don't feel like we got a consensus, so we'll have to settle for a majority. Think it really just comes down to the Jordan side arguing more for "defense" than for Jordan specifically

1) Chiefs--Luke Joeckel
2)Jags-- Eric Fisher
3)Raiders--On the clock

 

[mastershake]

My vote: Dion Jordan


Pack

Yeah... the D is certainly charmin soft

 

[squicken]

Are you guys doing a mock based on what you think will happen or what you would do?

What you would do. All are welcome. Lurkers as well as double-secret insular Madden GAFfers

 

[chuckddd]

Are you guys doing a mock based on what you think will happen or what you would do?

What the team should do.

 

[Rorschach]

Gotcha.

 

[Colasante]

For the Raiders... Star Lotulelei. Possibly the best player in the draft, his heart condition has checked out, can be a bedrock defensive tackle for a team that sorely needs blue chip players. Also, Dennis Allen is another defensive-minded coach and Reggie McKenzie comes from the Packers, which I believe had a best player available philosophy.

 

[chuckddd]

I say Lotulelei or Floyd.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

So, the general consensus seems to be that the Raiders are drafting a defensive player. Floyd seems to be the populair pick, but I don't really like him. Think Star would be awesome for them.

 

[squicken]

For the Raiders... Star Lotulelei. Possibly the best player in the draft, his heart condition has checked out, can be a bedrock defensive tackle for a team that sorely needs blue chip players. Also, Dennis Allen is another defensive-minded coach and Reggie McKenzie comes from the Packers, which I believe had a best player available philosophy.

Of all the defense guys I like Star as well. They've lost two guys off the line, so it's a need as well.

 

[Godslay]

For the Raiders... Star Lotulelei. Possibly the best player in the draft, his heart condition has checked out, can be a bedrock defensive tackle for a team that sorely needs blue chip players. Also, Dennis Allen is another defensive-minded coach and Reggie McKenzie comes from the Packers, which I believe had a best player available philosophy.

I like this. I was going to do a joke post with the faster player, "For Al", but that would be Tavon. I don't want to have to deal with him twice a year.

 

[chuckddd]

Who ran the fastest 40 at the combine? Let's let zombie Al make the call.

 

[yankeehater]

Fisher for sure.

 

[ChanHuk]

Raiders; Star over Floyd. Reggie has shown that he wants good players not flashy ones that can be the foundation of a team. Floyd is definitely flashy but I'll still bring up he had little production in college he's pretty versatile though and only 20. All I have to bring up is Haloti Ngata, who wouldn't want a Ngata type player on their team? Otherwise, they're going to trade this pick away to someone needing Lane Johnson. Or who knows, maybe they'll get trick the Vikings into trading both their 1sts this year, their 2nd, 4th, and a 2nd next year for the 3rd overall. Things can happen.

 

[Futurevoid]

Yeah, the league is sure to miss Blaine Gabbert!

It's not really about Gabbert. They aren't drafting a tackle in a vacuum for one player. You know that.

 

[Colasante]

For what it's worth, Daniel Jeremiah just tweeted this: "I've had Dion Jordan going to JAX for a long time. However, I've talked to several GM's/Personnel Directors that expect JAX to take an OT". Looks like the Fisher fans might have been right on the money.

 

[slightconfuse]

i was going to say floyd for oakland but Star might be a better fit for the front line

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I say Star for the Raiders.

 

[BlackGhost]

For the Raiders... Star Lotulelei. Possibly the best player in the draft, his heart condition has checked out, can be a bedrock defensive tackle for a team that sorely needs blue chip players. Also, Dennis Allen is another defensive-minded coach and Reggie McKenzie comes from the Packers, which I believe had a best player available philosophy.

I have to go Star also, I have a feeling our shirtless mock drafts are gonna look pretty similar until mine gets to the Browns pick that is.
Edit: actually I lied just looked at my mock and I went with Floyd so I'm sticking to my guns and going with him

 

[yankeehater]

Star for the raiders.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

It's not really a out Gabbert. They aren't drafting a tackle in a vacuum for one player. You know that.

They don't need a franchise left tackle now. The Jags are years away from being contenders. Get a utility player from the second round and down and build the D.

Look at Jake Long. Wasted his good years protecting bums and washouts. When a QB of note came around dude was sent packing.

 

[Dutch Gronk]

"When life gives you lemons, just say 'Fuck the lemons,' and bail"

Watching 'Forgetting Sarah Marshall', it's kinda funny.

 

[Wes]

Floyd for Raiders. Whilst Star started off as the higher level pick his medical scare at the combine has unfairly dropped him down the board a bit.

 

[Futurevoid]

Look at Jake Long. Wasted his good years protecting bums and washouts. When a QB of note came around dude was sent packing.

Lots of good defense did the Dolphins.
Regardless, we're going in circles when the mock has already moved on.

I believe Raiders fans picked Star in the previous mock and I don't see a need to go against that.

 

[squicken]

Is Rors going to chime in? Seems like Star is the guy, but I'll give it a bit

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

Lots of good defense did the Dolphins.
Regardless, we're going in circles when the mock has already moved on.

Discussion is discussion dammit!


It's a philosophy difference, to be sure. I just don't see the point in using high picks to protect losers. Draft is seven rounds. Build your identity on defense and try to build a solid line with role players until you find your jewel at qb. O-lines aren't built solely in the first round anyway.

 

[squicken]

Discussion is discussion dammit!


It's a philosophy difference, to be sure. I just don't see the point in using high picks to protect losers. Draft is seven rounds. Build your identity on defense and try to build a solid line with role players until you find your jewel at qb. O-lines aren't built solely in the first round anyway.

I'm almost certain JAX, CLE, and BUF take QBs. If I were JAX GM, I'd take the tackle. So he's got a good OL, MJD, and Shorts and Blackmon. That's a good way to nurture a young QB.

 

[yankeehater]

So star it is?

 

[Futurevoid]

Discussion is discussion dammit!


It's a philosophy difference, to be sure. I just don't see the point in using high picks to protect losers.

I see it as an ivnvestment in a future non-loser. The damage done to Bradford in St. Louis should be a lesson in throwing a potential young QB behind a non-existent line. It's obvious they'll move on from Gabbert sooner rather than later. Lay the groundwork where games are won - in the trenches. I don't feel that Jordan is the defensive equivalent of Fisher from a value perspective which is why I'm not high on him at #2.

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

I'm almost certain JAX, CLE, and BUF take QBs. If I were JAX GM, I'd take the tackle. So he's got a good OL, MJD, and Shorts and Blackmon. That's a good way to nurture a young QB.

Isn't that putting the cart before the horse though? Tackle in the first, QB second? i really don't see Geno, Landry and co. Slipping into the second round. If the Jags have their eyes set on a qb they're taking him the first chance they get.

I see it as an ivnvestment in a future non-loser. The damage done to Bradford in St. Louis should be a lesson in throwing a potential young QB behind a non-existent line. It's obvious they'll move on from Gabbert sooner rather than later. Lay the groundwork where games are won - in the trenches. I don't feel that Jordan is the defensive equivalent of Fisher from a value perspective which is why I'm not high on him at #2.

I'm not really making a case for Jordan so much as I am a defensive player high. A stud left tackle is a luxury you should take when your team building is almost complete, not when you have every possible need like the Jags do.

As for the tackle, I see your point, I just don't think it's a great idea because you could potentially waste the tackle's rookie years, or career. I think the Jags should admit they're shit, let teams chase Gabbert out of the league as they build around him, then draft their crown pieces when the rest of the team has fallen into place.

 

[BaltimoreLarry]

Floyd. Every Raider fan I talked to while in Oakland seem convinced he's the pick.

 

[Futurevoid]

Isn't that putting the cart before the horse though? Tackle in the first, QB second? i really don't see Geno, Landry and co. Slipping into the second round. If the Jags have their eyes set on a qb they're taking him the first chance they get.

This is about what they should do though. What they will do? Geno is a possibility for the Kags at 2, IMO.