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PFT - Report: 49ers ready to move into middle of first round

Hilarious article. The article this is based off of says 49ers MIGHT be interested. Then PFT makes it sound like we have something in the works with the basis being we can't possibly use all 13 picks. Alright. Classic PFT!

Ps

Niners already have 10 picks next year too

 

[squicken]

Going to give Ansah to SD, based on Troutman being there this year. For our purposes, we are assuming MIA is getting Albert for a 2nd. It's not perfect, but the goal is discussion, not perfection



1)Chiefs--Joeckel
2)Jags--Fisher
3)Raiders--Star
4)Eagles--Dion Jordan
5)Lions--Dee Milliner
6)Browns--Sharrif Floyd
7)Cardinals--Lane Johnson
8)Bills--Tavon Austin
9)Jets--Barkevious Mingo
10)Titans--Jonathon Cooper
11)Chargers--Ezekiel Ansah
12)Dolphins--On the Clock

Alright gents, gators, and cats. Time for our Consensus Mock Draft. The idea is that we put ourselves in the shoes of the GM for every team, and pick a player that we feel is best for that team. We aren't trying to figure out what a team will do, but what they should do.

There's no set time limit for each pick. Once we have had enough reasonable and quality debate on a pick, we'll move on. Ideally, fans of each team can weigh in on the fit and needs of the team, but they are just one voice. Anyone with an opinion is encouraged to share. Try to write something a bit more substantial than 140 characters, and be respectful of others (gator). Hope this works out well!

-We are assuming the Revis deals goes through, and includes the #13 pick to NYJ

-We are assuming KC trades Branden Albert to MIA for a second round pick. KC gets a 2nd back but needs a LT, and MIA gets its LT but losses a premium pick

-No other trades. Each team makes its pick

 

[eznark]

I just don't see how Warmack makes it past SD.

 

[Colasante]

DJ Hayden to the Dolphins. Best cornerback in the draft fits the team's biggest need. Rhodes, Trufant, and Jamar Taylor are other considerations, as well as a pass rusher.

 

[squicken]

DJ Hayden to the Dolphins. Best cornerback in the draft fits the team's biggest need. Rhodes, Trufant, and Jamar Taylor are other considerations, as well as a pass rusher.

Agree it's CB. Would go Hayden as well, with Milliner gone

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

I don't feel good about anything with this pick but I guess Rhodes makes the most sense. I don't know much about Hayden but if he's as good as some of you guys say then maybe that's the more logical choice. Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to Eifert, either.

Hmm... I guess I'll go with Rhodes.

 

[Nightz]

Wait, who's saying that the Chargers are in on Albert? Haven't seen anything from the guys that I follow.

Just got out of a work meeting, but I would vote Warmack at this point (even though we're past the pick). Yes they have Troutman, but they lost Vasquez and he would only plug up that hole. The other guard position sucked too. Don't think they'd reach for a tackle at this point.

 

[jbug617]

I think Miami will probably add a CB (Rhodes or Hayden) in the draft but since Warmack dropped he goes here.

 

[eznark]

I like Rhodes a hell of a lot more than Hayden.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

We're assuming that deal isn't going through for the Chargers.

 

[Fantomex]

This is a second round CB draft. Dolphins are going to have to go with Eifert or move down to #18-22 to get a CB. The CB's are not good enough value, DE is not that terrible of a need, and the OL's are gone. Unless they're stupid enough to get Fluker. They got Keller from the Jets on a one year deal, but they need a TE to stretch the field like Hernandez, Gronk, Graham etc. Dolphins select Eifert. Best value for the pick.

 

[squicken]

I don't feel good about anything with this pick but I guess Rhodes makes the most sense. I don't know much about Hayden but if he's as good as some of you guys say then maybe that's the more logical choice. Honestly I wouldn't be opposed to Eifert, either.

Hmm... I guess I'll go with Rhodes.

I'll say this, if I needed offense, I'd go Eifert before any WR except Austin. And even then, you wouldn't need Austin. You guys could use a RZ target

 

[eznark]

We're assuming that deal isn't going through for the Chargers.

You asked for hypotheticals as to how it would play out in such a manner.

I think there is a possibility that we only got one correct pick so far.

I like Eifert too. I'd say Rhodes/Eifert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hayden

 

[Ninja Scooter]

LMAO they just played the clip of Hugh Douglas being drafted in 1995 on ESPN and showed all the analysts talking about how mature he is and how he's got a wife and kids and has his priorities in order and they asked Hugh where he was on draft day and he said "Freaknik"

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

You asked for hypotheticals as to how it would play out in such a manner.

I think there is a possibility that we only got one correct pick so far.

I was talking about within the context of our mock. I shouldn't have phrased it that way, though.

EDIT: Screw it, change my vote to Eifert!

 

[chuckddd]

Warmack to the 'Phins. They need line help desperately and can get a cb in the second.

 

[jbug617]

I'll say this, if I needed offense, I'd go Eifert before any WR except Austin. And even then, you wouldn't need Austin. You guys could use a RZ target

but wouldn't Warmack be the BPA for Miami?

 

[eznark]

Warmack to the 'Phins. They need line help desperately and can get a cb in the second.

We are assuming they are getting Albert, right? Lots of good guards will still be around when they pick in the second.

 

[Draxal]

Going to go with Rhodes. Just a gut feeling that he's going to develeop like everybody says he going to develop.

 

[slightconfuse]

Phins should draft eifert. If they are getting Albert. Beef up that offense

 

[Colasante]

Going to go with Rhodes. Just a gut feeling that he's going to develeop like everybody says he going to develop.

As far as I'm aware, Rhodes isn't really a good scheme fit with the Dolphins. They play more off man and zone, and Rhodes is mostly a press man corner.

 

[Fantomex]

but wouldn't Warmack be the BPA for Miami?

Not with Philbin as the head coach. He prefers athletic linemen. Warmack and Fluker have problems getting off the line quickly. With the OL free agents currently available, they might as well sign one to a 2 year deal with little guaranteed money. The free agent market makes more sense to them in the draft, now that all the stud OL's are gone.

 

[eznark]

As far as I'm aware, Rhodes isn't really a good scheme fit with the Dolphins. They play more off man and zone, and Rhodes is mostly a press man corner.

You scheme to fit the personnel.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Not with Philbin as the head coach. He prefers athletic linemen. Warmack and Fluker have problems getting off the line quickly. With the OL free agents currently available, they might as well sign one to a 2 year deal with little guaranteed money. The free agent market makes more sense to them in the draft, now that all the stud OL's are gone.

I agree with this. I don't see G as a big need for the Phins, especially considering who would be available at this point in the draft.

 

[chuckddd]

We are assuming they are getting Albert, right? Lots of good guards will still be around when they pick in the second.

I thought we just decided the Chargers were getting Albert.

I'm so confused!

 

[squicken]

The assumption is MIA gives up it's second for Albert. After taking Martin high last year, and spending a 2nd this year on Albert, another OL in the first is too much. It's either CB or Eifert. MIA still would have second round pick from the Davis trade

 

[jbug617]

Okay if Albert is going to Miami, I think they take Rhodes.

 

[yankeehater]

You asked for hypotheticals as to how it would play out in such a manner.

I think there is a possibility that we only got one correct pick so far.

I like Eifert too. I'd say Rhodes/Eifert >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hayden

Jordan to the Eagles?

 

[B For Bendetta]

We aren't trying to make correct picks though. Were trying to make the best picks despite idiotic GMs and head coaches

 

[squicken]

We aren't trying to make correct picks though. Were trying to make the best picks despite idiotic GMs and head coaches

yes.

For MIA, we've got Eifert vs a couple of contending CBs

 

[chuckddd]

I think Eifert will fit the Miami offense well. But does that pick make the most sense? I'd be ok with it.

 

[goldlion054]

If we assume the Dolphins secured Albert, I would say Eifert. This draft has some depth in the CB position and the chance to get a long term safety valve for Tannehill seems too much to pass up. Creates some match up problems and could be great for a long time. Use the 2nd from the Davis trade to shore up the secondary. Protect the young QB!

 

[Draxal]

We should compare the Gaf mock draft to the other ones on Huddle Report after the fact.

 

[B For Bendetta]

They stacked up on offense in free agency. My vote is hayden

 

[Plinko]

Hayden to Miami.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

They stacked up on offense in free agency. My vote is hayden

They also picked up Ellerbee, Wheeler, and Grimes on defense though.

 

[Fantomex]

I think Eifert will fit the Miami offense well. But does that pick make the most sense? I'd be ok with it.

Keller can't stretch the middle, Eifert can. Defenses will already be doubling up on Wallace for the dep route, probably playing zone on Davone Bess and tying up Hartline on the sides. Eifert can cross that middle and stretch it, especially being really good at jump balls in the middle. It makes the most sense at #12 and for the offense. Philbin wants his Jermichael Finley, Vernon Davis, Jimmy Graham type.

The Phins have 2 second round picks and 2 3rd round picks to get a CB or DL.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

Keller can't stretch the middle, Eifert can. Defenses will already be doubling up on Wallace for the dep route, probably playing zone on Davone Bess and tying up Hartline on the sides. Eifert can cross that middle and stretch it, especially being really good at jump balls in the middle. It makes the most sense at #12 and for the offense. Philbin wants his Jermichael Finley, Vernon Davis, Jimmy Graham type.

Hold on, this could change things. Does Eifert have any kids that he refuses to pay child support for?

 

[Futurevoid]

Rhodes/Eifert sounds good. I like Eifert more but Rhodes seems to fit a greater need if you're philosophically going in that direction. Eifert is going to be a beast.

 

[Draxal]

Great Rant by Colin of the Great Blue North Draft Report.

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=470244

Bottom line is best advice I can give to people is to chill out and let the draft play out. Should be really interesting as the Giants are not the only team in the league which has a) given out almost nothing in terms of meaningful clues as to what they are thinking and b) could go in multiple directions this weekend. Indeed, after KC which seems pretty committed to OT Joeckel if they don't get a last-minute trade offer, there are 30 other teams in about the same situation as the Giants.

 

[squicken]

Eifert is getting the most votes. Eifert is the pick. Jets on the clock



1)Chiefs--Joeckel
2)Jags--Fisher
3)Raiders--Star
4)Eagles--Dion Jordan
5)Lions--Dee Milliner
6)Browns--Sharrif Floyd
7)Cardinals--Lane Johnson
8)Bills--Tavon Austin
9)Jets--Barkevious Mingo
10)Titans--Jonathon Cooper
11)Chargers--Ezekiel Ansah
12)Dolphins--Tyler Eifert
13)Jets--on the clock

Alright gents, gators, and cats. Time for our Consensus Mock Draft. The idea is that we put ourselves in the shoes of the GM for every team, and pick a player that we feel is best for that team. We aren't trying to figure out what a team will do, but what they should do.

There's no set time limit for each pick. Once we have had enough reasonable and quality debate on a pick, we'll move on. Ideally, fans of each team can weigh in on the fit and needs of the team, but they are just one voice. Anyone with an opinion is encouraged to share. Try to write something a bit more substantial than 140 characters, and be respectful of others (gator). Hope this works out well!

-We are assuming the Revis deals goes through, and includes the #13 pick to NYJ

-We are assuming KC trades Branden Albert to MIA for a second round pick. KC gets a 2nd back but needs a LT, and MIA gets its LT but losses a premium pick

-No other trades. Each team makes its pick

 

[Fantomex]

Hold on, this could change things. Does Eifert have any kids that he refuses to pay child support for?

I meant athletically hehe, and when Finley was actually good.

Jets select Trufant. Nevermind these are the jets. They go with Warmack, an average football player, overhyped and underdeveloped. Perfect for the Jets franchise.

 

[Draxal]

Warmack. next.

 

[B For Bendetta]

Warmack or Geno. I guess Warmack and then try and trade up from the second for Geno.

 

[jbug617]

Warmack to the Jets. It was also reported today that Rex was the only head coach to attend Hayden's workout today.

 

[squicken]

Warmack for me as well

 

[Colasante]

Can't believe Warmack is still here. Should have gone to the Chargers. Easy pick for the ground and pound offense.

 

[yankeehater]

Geno to the Jets. They are not going to go through a year with buttfumble and Garrard at QB. I really think they need to grab a QB and having 2 firsts let them do that without feeling like they didnt get anything out of their first round pick.

 

[Futurevoid]

Warmack.

Saints showing interest in Tank Carradine at #15:

http://www.bigblueview.com/2013-nfl...-carradine-new-york-giants-new-orleans-saints

Niners also interested later in the first:

Jason LaCanfora of NFL Network tweeted Monday that the New Orleans Saints, who draft 15th in the first round, "seem quite intrigued" by the 6-foot-4, 273-pound defensive end.

CSN Bay Area also speculated that the San Francisco 49ers might be targeting Carradine with the 31st pick should be still be on the board.

EDIT: Sheldon Richardson is still on the board?

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

For those of you saying Geno --- is the cold weather a concern at all or do you thinks it's overblown?