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We just watched the crane collapse during the construction of Miller Park in a mechanics class.
Which made me realize just how damn beautiful that stadium is.
Which made me realize just how damn beautiful that stadium is.
Unconditional
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Us jags got a plan in place... Punter for 2nd Overall pick. Lets go!
The_Darkest_Red
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Wrayfield, what do you think about Eifert to the Dolphins?
Bucs made the same mistake the Jets did
You don't ask for that unless you plan on holding out
edit: It's soooo one-sided. It's always from Revis' side. I wonder how much Jets fans actually like him with all the drama he has caused. I mean he got a ton of money last year to not play, and then wanted to redo the contract. Why would the Jets be in a hurry to do that?
You don't ask for that unless you plan on holding out
edit: It's soooo one-sided. It's always from Revis' side. I wonder how much Jets fans actually like him with all the drama he has caused. I mean he got a ton of money last year to not play, and then wanted to redo the contract. Why would the Jets be in a hurry to do that?
The_Darkest_Red
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If I needed a skill player, I would take Eifert over any WR or RB. All the WRs except Austin have big bust potential, and none of the RBs are special. Eifert is a cut above all the other TEs and is a legit RZ target. I know the Jets are supposedly interested as well. Doubt he lasts past 13
DeaconKnowledge
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Unless he holds out next season I doubt it will do him much good. Tampa was smart to make a divorce from the guy painless.
God am I glad the Steelers didn't get him.
The_Darkest_Red
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Yeah, I feel the same way. Specifically with the Phins there are safer picks to make, like Rhodes or maybe one of the two big guards if they're still available, but Eifert seems like the best combination of safe and potentially explosive. I've come around on the idea enough that I actually want to see the Phins go after him, but in the back of my mind I know they still have some other more obvious needs.
An RZ target is a big need for the Phins even after bringing in Wallace, Gibson, and Keller. None of those guys will be as big of a threat in the RZ as Eifert, I'd say.
DeaconKnowledge
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No way Eifert gets past the Iggles.
Dutch Gronk
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Bill to trade all his picks this year to the Chiefs, just to pick up Eifert with the first overall pick.
Gronk+Eifert+Hernando = Unstoppable offense
Gronk+Eifert+Hernando = Unstoppable offense
yankeehater
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Yeah if Revis has a good year this year he will be holding out for sure. I am so glad the Eagles didnt wind up with this headache.
At #4? I havent heard a single "expert" say Eifert was even a possiblity for the Eagles. They also have Celek and signed Casey as a FA. I think TE is one of the spot they are set at.
That first preseason game where they are all healthy would be amazing to see
BlackGhost
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Nassib at 8 makes sense to me. I figured if it's not him they would use to pick on a Wr. Why not just take him at 8 and get him or trade down and draft him. Instead of getting into a potential bidding war later in the second or late 1st with other teams to get him and wasting picks. Take him at 8 and still get a pretty good Wr in the second without wasting extra picks if they really believe in him. At least that's how I see it.
The_Darkest_Red
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Don't be mean squicken, I'm sure Gronk will catch on quickly with his new robotic arm after his inevitable arm amputation.
Revis is like LT (the original).
He always held out, but as a Giants fan I didn't care ... he was that fucking good.
I doubt that. I see him going Top 10 but I don't see anyone taking him out of the Top #5 teams. Maybe the Jags shock everyone and take him at #2 but when was the last time a TE was taken that high?
Also interesting to see Ryan Nassib as the highest rated player by SI as Wes pointed out. If I'm the Bills and I really believe in Nassib, you take him at #8 and don't risk someone else taking him before the 2nd round. You don't pass up on a potential franchise QB (in the Bills eyes).
The more QBs taken in the first round, the better for Detroit. We have our franchise QB so that means more talent at other positions falls to us in the 2nd round. I'm hoping Geno, Nassib, EJ Manuel and Barkely are all picked before the Lions pick at #37.
But the problem with Revis is that his agents say shit like "the owner doesn't want to win, the GM is stupid". All he cares about his getting paid, no matter how poisonous he makes everything around him. The Bucs will win or lose this year b/c of Freeman. Revis just isn't worth the trouble imo
yankeehater
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EJ will be gone before #37 for sure.
So you think EJ is a lock for the Eagles in the 2nd round or potential trade up? I've heard the rumors of Chip and the FO being huge fans of EJ.
Going to be really interesting seeing where Barkley and Geno land. God, I hope the Jets draft one of those two for the :jncs.
yankeehater
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Yeah Chip has gushed over him. He talked about how disappointed he was when EJ turned down Oregon. I think he is a perfect fit for the Eagles and Chips offense. My guess is they trade up into the end of the 1st to get him just to be sure. I guess it could all be a smokescreen, but everyone that covers the team is saying they love EJ, and even EJ came out and said the Eagles are interested in him. I think this is a case of where there is smoke there really is fire.
Is there a particular reason for the surge in Nassib's stock? As someone who saw a fair amount of his games, I just don't see it. He was a nice enough player for sure, but if you told me he would be the top QB taken in a draft class (even a bad one) or a first round pick, let alone in the top 10, I would have laughed at you.
Except the Jets are a zoo of an organization.
Hard for anyone intelligent to take them seriously.
Revis might have acted differently if he had started with a real team that had a coach worth of respect (not a wannabe plus size porn star) and a GM that was not retarded.
yankeehater
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Mayock was saying yesterday that he is super smart and that teams feel like he will be a good leader.
Gronk with one arm = better than any of the Dolphins tight ends!!
BlackGhost
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He'll be gone before your pick tooEJ will be gone before #37 for sure.
Here is a page full of all the latest draft rumours 72 hours out.
I've seen that mooted blockbuster Bills-Falcons trade a fair bit recently. I think it was on NFL Network too. Would be huge.
I've seen that mooted blockbuster Bills-Falcons trade a fair bit recently. I think it was on NFL Network too. Would be huge.
The_Darkest_Red
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Eh, I'd take Keller over uni-armed Gronk. Plus this discussion will be irrelevant once Efiert is drafted by the Phins.
DCX
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I would have laughed too. He is a nice QB. Franchise QB? Nope. Spot starter and career backup? Most likely.
The depth at QB in this draft is weak and if you are a team in need of a shot in the arm at QB he may provide just that. His ceiling seems to be of a Matt Moore.
Second round at best but hey Tebow was a first rounder so there's that.
DCX
yankeehater
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He'll be gone before your pick too
Note to self, kill blackghost.
darkside31337
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Revis was the best player to ever wear a Jets uniform. A total diva but really who gives a shit about that?
He'll be pretty insufferable though once his play dips. The no guaranteed money is double sided to an extent, it lets them cut and dry before he becomes too much of a hassle but of course he's going to hold out after a year for a new deal.
True but reports were out that Chip wants to add more power to the TE position. I don't know if they are done just yet but hell no at #4. If they pick him at 4 it might be an all time dumb move even if he pans out. Now if they trade down to the bottom of the 1st then yeah pick the best TE left on the board. Pick anyone at that point.
I really hope we don't have to and don't trade back into the 1st for him. I think he will be there at #35. From all indications Geno will slip and possible be there near the end of the 1st. If any team moves back in it would be for him. EJ at #35. Hopefully they pick up another second round pick if they move down from the #4 pick.
Futurevoid
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Where are we with the consensus mock?
Dutch Gronk
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We all came to the conclusion that the Giants are big meanies.
When I went to sleep it was at the Steelers pick.
From your link on the Eagles
Seems about right and what we have been hearing from most analysts. I would add Lane Johnson to the mix because while he might not be as good day 1 as the other two top tackles, his athletic ability and upside is higher than both. The dude is a freak and might fit Chip's freak offense best.
If at 4, the Eagles find themselves in a position where Jordan, Fisher, and Luke are all gone they might go for Lane Johnson if they can't trade down with Miami or SD.
Also very curious about the monster deal possibility between the Colts.
The_Darkest_Red
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yankeehater
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Yeah I have hear that Chip wants to add a blocking TE since he wants to run so much, but that would be later in the draft. No way would you take a guy like that in the 1st. There is so much talk about what they are going to do with Casey, both as a FB and TE, so I expect him to be on the field in passing situations, and then Celek will also get a lot of plays. Eagles just dont have a spot for another pass catching TE.
I also hope we dont have to trade up for EJ, but every single year teams reach for QBs early and once a QB or 2 goes there will probably be a bit of a run on them. Teams always need QBs. It would be great though to wait for him and take him with our 2nd.
I wouldn't mind Greg's boy becoming the next Gronk (w/o the STDs, of course).
"Spot starter and career backup" was how I projected him as well. Badly reaching for players that you know aren't great but you are desperate for is a mistake that bad teams seem to make over and over again. It's the type of decision making that causes your team to have starting quarterbacks of JP Losman, Trent Edwards and Ryan Fitzpatrick.
I thought that the Marrone connection would be enough to get him drafted in the 4th or 5th instead of later. The way he's being projected now is nuts though.
DeaconKnowledge
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Eifert is shooting up boards. He's the best skill player in this draft as far as measurables, and Kelly has a noted hard on for tight ends. I think he'll go quick.
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