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[Lee Chaolan]

1 Joeckel

7 Fisher to Cards
8 Cooper to Bills

10 Warmack to Titans
11 Johnson To Chargers
12 Fluker to Miami

He can go to the chargers...at 6. Mwahaha.

Spoiler

I really want that 2nd rounder back

It's taken 2 months, but today is the first time I actually miss football this year :-(

I think it misses you too.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Grown ass man.

 

[Milchjon]

Yo cuevas, didn't know you were into soccer.

Your drinking habits didn't change tho, from the looks of it.

 

[Greg]

You cuevas, didn't know you were into soccer.

Your drinking habits didn't change tho, from the looks of it.

:jnc

 

[Alligatorjandro]

3 weeks for draft!

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Watch your eyes around those things, I hear they can blind!

 

[Mackenzie 92]

1 Joeckel

7 Fisher to Cards
8 Cooper to Bills

10 Warmack to Titans
11 Johnson To Chargers
12 Fluker to Miami

Was hoping for a trade down possibility for someone to snag Fisher, but not seeing it.

Hmm maybe someone will hop the Eagles for Geno. Doubtful though. Well that's assuming the top 10 goes as predicted which is doubtful as well.

Also still hoping we take Star over Floyd if we do pick at 3.

 

[Nori Chan]

you people need to stop bumping the old thread

greg

 

[squicken]

Was hoping for a trade down possibility for someone to snag Fisher, but not seeing it.

Hmm maybe someone will hop the Eagles for Geno. Doubtful though. Well that's assuming the top 10 goes as predicted which is doubtful as well.

Also still hoping we take Star over Floyd if we do pick at 3.

I think it will come down to a team getting desperate for Lane Johnson, and it just seems like CLE is in the spot to trade down. But if KC takes Joeckel or Fisher, and someone isn't in love with Johnson, it could happen.

Chase Stuart from Football Perspective has come up with a new trade value chart, that values top choices much less than the old Jimmy Johnson chart did, using the historical career performance of the players taken in those spots. If teams adjust their expectations, there should be more trades. But it's all about perception. GMs don't want to look like they are getting fleeced, even if they are really getting good value

http://www.footballperspective.com/yet-another-draft-value-chart/

According to this, the third pick is worth 18.4 points. Let's say you want to trade with SD at 11. That pick is worth 12.9 points. Would you be happy trading down to 11 and getting SD's 3rd and 6th?

I'm certainly not saying this new chart is somehow the end all be all, but I think it's better than JJ's old chart

 

[Mackenzie 92]

I think it will come down to a team getting desperate for Lane Johnson, and it just seems like CLE is in the spot to trade down. But if KC takes Joeckel or Fisher, and someone isn't in love with Johnson, it could happen.

Chase Stuart from Football Perspective has come up with a new trade value chart, that values top choices much less than the old Jimmy Johnson chart did, using the historical career performance of the players taken in those spots. If teams adjust their expectations, there should be more trades. But it's all about perception. GMs don't want to look like they are getting fleeced, even if they are really getting good value

http://www.footballperspective.com/yet-another-draft-value-chart/

According to this, the third pick is worth 18.4 points. Let's say you want to trade with SD at 11. That pick is worth 12.9 points. Would you be happy trading down to 11 and getting SD's 3rd and 6th?

I'm certainly not saying this new chart is somehow the end all be all, but I think it's better than JJ's old chart

Yeah I don't think Reggie is going to be asking for a lot of compensation, probably a 3rd depending on who/if he is able to trade. Best case scenario for me would be trading down and still landing Star while picking up a extra 3rd rounder. I know we aren't gonna get a 2nd.

 

[Tamanon]

you people need to stop bumping the old thread

greg

OK snes3.0

 

[squicken]

Yeah I don't think Reggie is going to be asking for a lot of compensation, probably a 3rd depending on who/if he is able to trade. Best case scenario for me would be trading down and still landing Star while picking up a extra 3rd rounder. I know we aren't gonna get a 2nd.

Yeah that's the thing. People seem to think they can drop 5 or six slots and get a second. Browns fans seem to be setting themselves up for disappointment if they can't get back their missing 2nd

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Yeah I don't think Reggie is going to be asking for a lot of compensation, probably a 3rd depending on who/if he is able to trade. Best case scenario for me would be trading down and still landing Star while picking up a extra 3rd rounder. I know we aren't gonna get a 2nd.

Wait, if I'm reading this correctly, trading down from 3 to 11 and you don't think you'd get a 2nd? That'd madness.

Although, I suppose Butch Davis ruined it for everybody when he traded a 2 to go from 7 to 6 to just get Winslow.

Yeah that's the thing. People seem to think they can drop 5 or six slots and get a second. Browns fans seem to be setting themselves up for disappointment if they can't get back their missing 2nd

Value is subjective. You can have a chart all you want, but as my Butch example goes, we could ask for whatever price we want if they're desperate enough. I can see it happening easily, I'm not going to 'count' on it though.

Of course, if Oakland hates the 3 spot, then they could ruin things by asking for pennies.

 

[jakncoke]

69 million is a lot of money for the raiders, they'll waste it but lots of it

 

[Kave_Man]

Batman you got your wish.

The Browns will play St. Louis in the first preseason game.

 

[squicken]

Value is subjective. You can have a chart all you want, but as my Butch example goes, we could ask for whatever price we want if they're desperate enough. I can see it happening easily, I'm not going to 'count' on it though.

Of course, if Oakland hates the 3 spot, then they could ruin things may asking for pennies.

Absolutely. It's like the Rams last year. When the player is RG3, the chart goes out the window. But when you are talking later in the first, it's nice to have a reference. Like if STL moved from 22 to 36, that chart says the value the Eagles give up is a 4th. Sure doesn't seem like much from what we've seen traditionally

 

[Futurevoid]

Lions update:

@caplannfl: Veteran K Jason Hanson is retiring, according to the #Lions official website.

Giants preseason schedule:

Week 1 at Pittsburgh
Week 2 vs. Colts (nationally televised game, 8/18 at 8PM ET)
Week 3 vs. Jets (Giants are the home team)
Week 4 at New England

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Batman you got your wish.

The Browns will play St. Louis in the first preseason game.

They will pay for not trading the draft rights to RGIII to us by playing a meaningless preseason game with us! Mwahahaha. *cough*

 

[Goro Majima]

Lions update:

That makes me sad for some reason

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Lions update:

Hanson gone in DET, Akers gone in SF, Dawson gone in CLE. All the old guys are leaving

Spoiler

Wish we could have kept Dawson.

 

[Futurevoid]

That makes me sad for some reason

Garafolo posted that sources claim the Lions low offer to him and the fact that he's coming off of a foot injury pushed him to consider retirement.

 

[effzee]

Lions update:

I wonder if the addition of Reggie Bush will be able to off set this loss.

Maybe they should sign TO just to be sure. Don't want to mess that SB run up.

In sad news Ebert passed away. Not always agreed with him but I felt like he was able to defend his views really well without coming across as some too good for movies elitist critic half of GAF even pretends to be.

 

[Futurevoid]

I wonder if the addition of Reggie Bush will be able to off set this loss.

They won't need a kicker when he's running wild for 1800 yards. TD's or bust.

 

[BlackGhost]

TRENT TRUCK

Greg you owe Browns Gaf 10 cents now.

69 million is a lot of money for the raiders, they'll waste it but lots of it

J Russell should be finished with his comeback soon.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

They won't need a kicker when he's running wild for 1800 yards. TD's or bust.

Yeah, and even extra points are out the window when a 2 point conversion from the wildcat is a guarantee.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

We're gonna give those Rams the dirtiest looks from across the sideline, lemme tell ya.

 

[WedgeX]

Lions update:

We've had some good times.

Some bad.

Some weird times.

And nearly all clutch despite being surrounded by mediocrity.

He retires holding these records:

• Most field goals of 40 or more yards (total) - 189
• Most consecutive field goals of 40 or more yards (total) - 24 (2007-2009)
• Most field goals of 50 or more yards (total) - 51.[8]
• Became the second player in league history (after Jason Elam) to score 200+ points against 3 different teams (division rivals Packers, Bears, and Vikings).
• Most career games with one NFL team (327 as of December 31, 2012).
• Most career seasons with one NFL team (21).
• On December 18, 2011, became the first player in NFL history to score 2,000 points with one franchise.
• Most career game winning field goals in overtime - 9 - tied with Jason Elam, Jim Breech, and Steve Christie

 

[Lee Chaolan]

We've had some good times.

At least he retired with the Lions. Dawson was one season away from the Browns all-time scoring record, and a Pro Bowl kicker last season, yet Banner doesn't want him. =/

 

[jakncoke]

So steelers preseason schedule

giants
at washington
kc
at carolina

http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/04-04-13-preseason-schedule.pdf

 

[Futurevoid]

Yeah, and even extra points are out the window when a 2 point conversion from the wildcat is a guarantee.

 

[squicken]

What I noticed from preseason last year was that teams played their starters at home, disregarding typical Week 3 rule. Except for Week 4, which is the worst game to have at home

 

[jakncoke]

Last player from 1992 draft retired, next to last was Brad Johnson in 2008. I had a list of people that started before I started watching football, but its super lost in all the NFL age threads/posts

 

[Greg]

you people need to stop bumping the old thread

greg

it was that other guy

and then yankee!

Greg you owe Browns Gaf 10 cents now.

I'll give you a dollar!

 

[jakncoke]

lol your failures got that thread on the front page of biggest threads in the ghetto

 

[Striker]

What I noticed from preseason last year was that teams played their starters at home, disregarding typical Week 3 rule. Except for Week 4, which is the worst game to have at home

Often times doesn't matter, at least for the east coast teams. Giants playing teams like the Ravens, Jets, Patriots, and Panthers was frequent, and were all close by.

Get Steelers, Colts, Jets, and Patriots this year. Traveling to PIT and NE.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

it was that other guy

and then yankee!


I'll give you a dollar!

Yay, all our tailgating will be paid for at this rate!

Also, your avatar cracks me up everytime. :jnc

 

[Mackenzie 92]

Wait, if I'm reading this correctly, trading down from 3 to 11 and you don't think you'd get a 2nd? That'd madness.

Although, I suppose Butch Davis ruined it for everybody when he traded a 2 to go from 7 to 6 to just get Winslow.

Of course, if Oakland hates the 3 spot, then they could ruin things by asking for pennies.

Just the way it is in this draft, not a lot of incentive to trade up. I don't think we'll be trading with SD though, don't want to help them out and vice versa.

 

[jakncoke]

Ta'amu is so fucking lucky

What punishment did Ta'amu receive? He was sentenced Thursday to 18 months of probation and will spend four days in a program that's an alternative to jail.

 

[squicken]

Ta'amu is so fucking lucky

"luck"? Rooney money

 

[jakncoke]

"luck"? Rooney money

You're just jealous that your 11 teams have never had such a dedicated owner

 

[Wes]

Batman you got your wish.

The Browns will play St. Louis in the first preseason game.

Preview of the Superbowl

Spoiler

in 2018.

 

[Goro Majima]

I may go spit on soldier field later today......not sure.

 

[NihonTiger90]

Hanson retirement =

Would have loved to win himplayoff game Super Bowl. 

 

[mastershake]

I may go spit on soldier field later today......not sure.

Piss or bust

 

[Futurevoid]

Akers recently visited the Lions if memory serves. Lawrence Tynes is also out there. The Giants aren't brining him back as they've moved on with the signing of Josh Brown.

 

[WedgeX]

Hanson retirement =

Would have loved to win himplayoff game Super Bowl. 

With how much Suh is making, he should be refining his kicking right now.

 

[Buckethead]

Came to pay my respects to the dearly departed Jason Hanson.

 

[ChanHuk]

I'll take the Chargers 11th overall, their 3rd and next year's 4th for the Raiders 3rd overall. One guy isn't going to make this team.

 

[sf2fanatic]

We need to trade up to get Lacy....CJ-2K needs some help in the backfield

 

[cashman]

How do NFL contracts work? No way Romo plays through his entire contract right? He's gonna get cut in like 3-4 years right guys? guys?