Redheads on TV? Yes. Real-life? Can't find those quality.
Brunettes for me, especially because I prefer Latin women. Too bad I'm awash in blondes here in the South.
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NFL Offseason Thread |OT4| Fingers Crossed for a Homicide-Free July
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Redheads on TV? Yes. Real-life? Can't find those quality.
Brunettes for me, especially because I prefer Latin women. Too bad I'm awash in blondes here in the South.
The_Darkest_Red
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Paul Soliai pledged $250,000 to the University of Utahs new football center. What a man.
ActStriker
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You win a day with Aaron Hernandez.
Dutch Gronk
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@Edwerderespn said:
#GetWellSoonGronk #PrayForGronk #Gronk/Tebow2016
I have not really met many hot red heads in real life, but I never really care about a girls hair or skin color. If you are hot you are hot.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Going back to Stafford, I really don't think the record argument is 100% applicable here.
The Lions' defense and special teams have been horrible over the past few years. Stafford isn't responsible for that. They easily had the one of the (if not the) worst secondaries in the league during his first two years. Opposing receivers were catching TDs without a Lions defender within 10 yards of him. Without a running game, Stafford was pretty much the only guy putting up points and to keep up he almost had to score a TD every drive. No QB can do that. Plus, the offensive line has been horrible.
As I said before, I think Stafford is middle-of-the-road in the NFL--I'd put him around #12 or #13. But I believe that "bad record" argument is a bit unfair.
The Lions' defense and special teams have been horrible over the past few years. Stafford isn't responsible for that. They easily had the one of the (if not the) worst secondaries in the league during his first two years. Opposing receivers were catching TDs without a Lions defender within 10 yards of him. Without a running game, Stafford was pretty much the only guy putting up points and to keep up he almost had to score a TD every drive. No QB can do that. Plus, the offensive line has been horrible.
As I said before, I think Stafford is middle-of-the-road in the NFL--I'd put him around #12 or #13. But I believe that "bad record" argument is a bit unfair.
The_Darkest_Red
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Also, Andrew Luck.
I see where you're coming from Plinko, and you're right to some degree, but at the end of the day QB is the most important position on the field and they are the biggest difference maker. The great QB's can elevate an otherwise bad team to above average or an average team to excellent. I agree with where you'd rank Stafford for the most part though, although I might drop him down a few more spots. Once we see how 2012's rookie QB class handles their second year we'll know a lot more about how to rank all the starters.
Checkmate.
Is CJ that much better than Fitz?
Futurevoid
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The Lions' front office was put it an unenviable situation because of Stafford's previous insane contract. I guess that taking all of the variables into consideration, the Stafford extension was the most sensible course of action. Since the extension is only until 2017, it might be prudent for them to invest a reasonably high draft pick in a young QB that can learn behind Stafford and be an insurance policy incase Stafford doesn't become the QB they need to him to be in the next three years.
The Rams are in much the same position as the Lions, having a 'franchise' QB scheduled to make a large amount of money without having won anything for the team, but Stafford's 2011 gave him an advantage in negotiations that Sam Bradford's poor performance, whether it was his fault or not, does not afford him. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams do what the Lions weren't willing to do and move away from Bradford.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Except that's a one-off situation. Having to deal with one is fine. Stafford has to deal with every other aspect of his team being terrible.
I agree. That's why I never said he was great--just average to slightly above average.
When Johnson is healthy Schaub puts up those numbers.
Not going to disagree with your assessment of the Lions' defense, but Detroit's offense was still in the bottom half of the league last year (PPG). It's not like they were some elite squad on one side of the football that was completely dragged down by the other two phases of the game.
Plus, an awful defense should actually result in more PPG for an offense than they would normally score in a vacuum. More possessions and more opportunities to score, especially if you have a terrible secondary that allows quick strike scores as you described. This seems to play out, as Detroit was 3rd in offensive TOP last year despite being a pass-first team. Yet they were still in the bottom half of the league offensively.
The_Darkest_Red
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Wait a second... are you telling me the winner of a football game is determined by points scored as opposed to yards passing?
Kaaaaaaas! Why did you lead me astray!?
The Jags are clearly owned by iaepetus.
Also there is so much debate on Fatford. I honestly have not seen enough of him to judge one way or the other. I think though that Ben is the only fat slob qb in the entire history of the NFL to be a winner. I am going to hold that he is the exception to the rule until some other fatty can prove otherwise. You can't really compare anyone to Ben though. He does everything wrong and yet it works more often than not for him and his team.
Dutch Gronk
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Since joining the league, The Sanchize has fumbled the ball 43 times of which he lost 20 balls.
In the same period of time :
Brady: 15 fumbles, lost 5
Godgers: 23 fumbles, lost 9
Fatford : 17 fumbles, lost 7 (But was injured a lot, so missed games)
Flacco : 37 fumbles, lost 16
Fat Ben : 28 fumbles, lost 14
Eli : 33 fumbles, lost 18
Drew Breez: 25 fumbles, lost 10
In the same period of time :
Brady: 15 fumbles, lost 5
Godgers: 23 fumbles, lost 9
Fatford : 17 fumbles, lost 7 (But was injured a lot, so missed games)
Flacco : 37 fumbles, lost 16
Fat Ben : 28 fumbles, lost 14
Eli : 33 fumbles, lost 18
Drew Breez: 25 fumbles, lost 10
As awful as Sanchez has been, I'm not going to be surprised when he becomes the backup QB in Seattle come 2014 and Pete Carroll manages to put his career back on track. He has the basic skillset to be a better QB than he's shown in the NFL.
The_Darkest_Red
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Is sitting on the bench as a backup for the rest of your career really getting your career back on track after you've played in two AFC Championship games?
These guys seem pretty fortunate. Especially Tammy, she is not even close to losing even half of her fumbles.
And :lol @ Flacco.
Ninja Scooter
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Does the whole "I'm going to have a contest and the winner gets the privelage of hanging out with me" come across as douchey to anyone else?
Perhaps. I'm sure a lot of former QBs envied Mark Brunell's ability to stay in the league for as long as he did, even if it was only as a backup. No doubt Sanchez has fallen off a cliff since 2011, but his downward trajectory has occurred with such quickness and force I'm sure he'd be happy for any stabilization that allows him to stay in the league in his post-Jets career.
Futurevoid
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I can see where it would as it could come across as having a level of self-importance that's off-putting but his heart seems to be in the right place and the fact that he specifically mentions no media (i.e. doesn't seem like some big publicity stunt) earns some good will.
Fumbled snaps by QBs are recovered more often by the offense than other fumbles. Fumbles on sacks are recovered more often by the defense. w/o knowing the source of Dutch's numberw, I'm guessing it includes all fumbles. So it would seem Ben has some bad luck on those
http://www.footballperspective.com/the-definitive-analysis-of-offensive-fumbles/
Bradford has three years left on his deal, and after this year none are guaranteed. They've gone through the "bad" part of the contract already. The Lions had to move b/c they needed cap relief. The Rams don't.
Really, the big thing is that the Lions fucked their cap b/c they drafted Megatron while the Rams drafted Jason Smith. Each team had three top 2 picks, just the Rams busted one of theirs so he isn't on the books anymore.
Considering Ben is on pace to be the most sacked qb of all time I think his fumble rate is remarkably low.
When you get hit that often no matter how strong and masculine you are, sometimes the ball will come out.
Futurevoid
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Got my 10pm tickets for Thursday night. Can't wait.
Grover Cleveland
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I could definitely see that. I think at this point I'd consider the Browns and Chiefs better than the Lions, but he could very well be right.
Fitz is essentially a less athletic version of CJ, significantly less athletic. Andre in the peak of his prime isn't quite CJ because Megatron is Megatron who is starting maybe peak.
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