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yankeehater
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This is beyond stupid to me. Eagles have no safeties on their team. If they cant get one in FA they have to pass on guys in the first round because of some made up notion of value? What if BPA at 22 is an OT, do they have to take him even though that have Peters and Lane? You should never just blindly draft the best player, you should draft the best player for your team. A safety that can play as a rookie will help the Eagles next year waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more then another OL would.
I don't particularly want him either, but he does have some Richard Seymour-like qualities to him. With the way this mock fell together though, I'm not sure there's someone I'd prefer they take over him, since Amaro or Black Gronk would be a reach at 29.
Mackenzie 92
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I said a QB not a waterboy.
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Mackenzie 92
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Why waste a 1st round pick when you can address the need in the 2nd or 3rd and get the same or better results.
Also can address the need in FA.
Edit:I like Hageman, ton of upside. Just needs some good coaching. He's still fairly new to playing DL which is where his inconsistency comes from, I don't think it's an effort issue.
yankeehater
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I hope they do address it in FA, but there is no way to say you can get the same or better in the 2nd round. By the time the 44th pick comes around there is no way to know what will be left. If you have a team crippling need you need to fill it before making luxury picks.
Don`t give up jak.
Imagine you`re Matthew Stafford for a moment and you have the Detroit media and fans hounding you, even though you`ve broken every Lions QB record by the age of 25. What does Stafford do? You think he sits around, does nothing and blames other people? No he goes to the gym, study room and works on his game and getting into shape. Stay strong brother, model yourself after Matthew Stafford. You`ll be better for it in the end.
Imagine you`re Matthew Stafford for a moment and you have the Detroit media and fans hounding you, even though you`ve broken every Lions QB record by the age of 25. What does Stafford do? You think he sits around, does nothing and blames other people? No he goes to the gym, study room and works on his game and getting into shape. Stay strong brother, model yourself after Matthew Stafford. You`ll be better for it in the end.
Why not take Ealy or Ford or Shazier or Mosley and wait on the safety until a later round. The NFL just doesn't put guards and safeties that high on the value chart. They'll draft them high if they are exceptional, but in a draft like this, when you can get talent at premium positions, why force it?
yankeehater
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The Eagles most definitely do not need DL help, especially not enough to use their f8irst on a DE. Its not like they went to the SB last year, they had to fight to even make the playoffs and then lost to the Saints. They need guys who will play right away. I guess I could see them take a LB, even though I really dont want them to. Look at their safeties, right now you would rate those guys a 1 or a 2, if they could get a guy that is a 7 at safety it would be a huge upgrade, whereas if they get an 8 OLB to replace the 6 they have there now it is only a minor upgrade.
Mackenzie 92
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I agree with you on this. I don't see any reason to pass up Pryor or Clinton-Dix just because safeties aren't valued highly. They're good players and they fit a need, and there's no reason to think that the players available late in the 2nd or 3rd will be as good as either of them.
yankeehater
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Also no reason to pass on a guy that will definitely help you, hoping to get another play that might possibly be as good later. I just hate the whole, only certain positions can be drafted in the first round thing. Get a guy that can step in and contribute day one at an area of need.
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Also for cajun and the rest of the disgusting animus (Including you Coldplay)
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Himynameischris
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lol at the thread about the 'accidental' prostitution...
I said yesterday, Jak's diet reeks of depression. I hope that's not the case 
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Jak pls
Mackenzie 92
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I have no problem with taking a S in the first, I just don't think Dix and Pryor are that good.
Just my opinion and preference based on looking at fits for the Raiders who also need a safety, I like Bucannon, Loston, Dixon and Boston, all good picks that will be there in the 2nd through 5th.
Regarding your DL, I know you guys only got 37 sacks last year and were often inefficient getting pressure without blitzing, so that could be a need and value pick in the first that would also help your secondary.
I would say how I feel about that, but scared of Gata snitching.
I don't like Pryor in coverage, whatever his speed. He's a box safety. HHCD just isn't fast enough to warrant a first round pick. The Rams also have a desperate need at safety, but he's just not worth it. I think the best free safeties are going to be converted corners, personally. Can't count on the college game to produce them
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yankeehater
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They did blitz a ton, but Graham and Curry I believe where their 2 most productive DEs in terms of getting pressure but Davis wasnt comfortable with using them since they are both so weak in coverage. I am hoping another year in this sytem will allow them to improve so that De isnt a huge need. I have no doubt they will grab another guy for the rotation, but hopefully that will be late in the draft or even UDFA. First round I want safety, WR, or QB depending on how things go.
Mackenzie 92
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Talking about Stafford being thin and good at football is already fanfiction.
Himynameischris
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omg at the headphone thread lmao i can't stop laughing at work fuck I need to stop until my lunch, I'm busy as hell too.
yankeehater
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Best young QB in the NFL.
I'm pretty confifident Edelman is gone after seeing the Cooper signing. I'm confused on how he got that contract. I'm going to go out on a limb and say I doubt his agents phone was ringing off the hook with teams that wanted to sign him. It's like they outbid themselve to me. That being said Edelman will want 5+ Mil.
yankeehater
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If Cooper is worth $5m a year Edelman is worth $10m easily.
And which WR is projected to be available at pick #22 who will be a day 1 starter?
Eagles IMO need help all across defense. There is not one position where they are dominant plus they are still transitioning from a 4-3 roster to a 3-4.
Best defensive player available @ pick #22 should be the pick. Be it S, CB, DE, or LB.
Yup. I remember arguing against but there were tons of even the most liberal posters who were pro war. People just wanted blood. As long as it was brown and muslim blood it was ok.
http://overthecap.com/players-will-cut-coming-days/
Speaking of safeties, I saw the Steelers could cut Troy and save $8m. 50/50 shot he gets cut? I wonder what he could get on the open market?
Speaking of safeties, I saw the Steelers could cut Troy and save $8m. 50/50 shot he gets cut? I wonder what he could get on the open market?
What you would do to any consenting man, woman and sexy sheep is a pretty long ass list.
Can you narrow down what you are now wiling to do with that big breasted beauty?
And Jak keep your head up bro. You got us. Things will turn around eventually. Start working out. Watch some old Steelers DVDs and join some kind of club or something so you can meet some new people and get out of your rut.
Buckethead
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That's my point/argument. Neither Dix or Pryor are 1st round talent.
I like Dix. He's a hard, hairy Dix.
But he's still my 2nd choice.
Grover Cleveland
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Great Q&A with Greg Hardy
Best Quote:
That's my mentally unstable, about to be fabulously wealthy defensive end.
Best Quote:
Greg Hardy said:
That's my mentally unstable, about to be fabulously wealthy defensive end.
yankeehater
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It is impossible to know exactly how the draft will shake out but everyone seems to be saying how deep this draft is for WR, so hopefully one of the bigger WRs will still be around at 22. I agree that the defense could be upgraded at every spot, but some spots are way more in need of help then others. The safeties last year couldnt cover and couldnt tackle and their sucking forced the corners to play so far off the line. If they get even average safeties then the CBs can come up and play more physical, which is what Davis has said he wants. Improving the safeties will have a profound affect on the defense, much more then a DE or LB would have.
Great Q&A with Greg Hardy
Best Quote:
That's my mentally unstable, about to be fabulously wealthy defensive end.
Is he about to be fabuously wealthy? I thought he might be getting franchised?
Well that's the problem with the Cooper signing. It raised the baseline price for all decent WR's. There is a zero percent chance Edleman gets 10M though. Even Victor Cruz money would be ridiculous.
You ain't poor if you get franchised. You just don't get dat long term deal life.
Grover Cleveland
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13 million in the bank ain't bad.
Although barring a restructure, he would still be the second highest paid DE on the roster
We just need to draft pretty much an entire elite defense.
That is easy. You just need one pro-bowl pass rusher. One amazing tackle to eat up space and stuff the run. One really smart and fast ILB. One shut down corner. And another superstar player. The rest can be filled with great coaching, experience, and young, athletic players. Oh yeah and depth.
Are you saying we can't do all of that in this years draft?
We're probably better off drafting a stellar receiver, hoping our offensive line stays healthy (LOL) and relying on our offense to win games
Because we basically have at least one massive liability at all facets of our defense, and it's going to be a few years until we can fix it, assuming our draft picks along those lines aren't complete busts...I remember people (some Giant fans) getting upset over the Phins giving Hartline 5/30M last year.
So I can see Edelman getting something like that, easily.
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