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NFL Offseason Thread - Who cares who won we got a draft to prepare for!

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Rorschach

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I see what you are saying. I like Ellington as well, but Arians just has such a fetish for bigger, traditional I-Formation type RBs. Vereen is in a larger volume offense, but I guess ultimately I agree that we have seen his ceiling, and Ellington's is probably higher

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Amazing that you shrunk it to the point where you can't read it...
 
Shaun King with one of the better mocks I've seen, dude knows whats up.
1. Houston Texans
Needs: QB, OT, Safety
The pick: Teddy Bridgewater (QB, Louisville) – The most complete NFL ready QB since Andrew Luck. Unlike most teams with the first pick, the Texans are a QB away from being legit playoff contenders. Bridgewater's tape is excellent. He consistently delivers all the throws and makes his own decisions at the line of scrimmage. For those who have injury concerns, why? Show me the games he has missed due to injury.

2. St Louis Rams
Needs: OL, WR, Safety
The pick: Greg Robinson (OL, Auburn) – Not as polished as Jake Matthews but a higher upside, Robinson has a rare combination of size and athleticism, with a little more polish in his pass protection footwork. The ceiling for him: best tackle in football.

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The Jags getting Jadeveon Clowney at No. 3 would be a steal.
3. Jacksonville Jaguars
Needs: QB, DE, OT
The pick: Jadeveon Clowney (DE, South Carolina) – The No. 1 player on my draft board falls to the Jags, who need pass rush help. Clowney is a once-in-a-decade-type athlete, who will only get better. Gus Bradley knows you build a great defense from the inside out. Jags pass on a QB here to grab the best defensive player in this draft

4. Cleveland Browns
Needs: QB, RB, OG
The pick: Sammy Watkins (WR, Clemson) – The most electrifying playmaker in the draft, Watkins is explosive in and out of routes and a home-run threat every time he touches the ball. I think the Browns will draft a QB, just not at No. 4. The threesome of Watkins, Josh Gordon and Jordan Cameron would give the Browns the best group of young pass catchers in the league.

5. Oakland Raiders
Needs: QB, WR, OT
The pick: Aaron Donald (DT, Pittsburgh) – Donald has skyrocketed up draft boards with his postseason work (Senior Bowl and combine). He gets drafted here because his tape backs up what his workouts imply. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie understands how difficult it is to find athletic big guys who show up on tape. If the Raiders also re-sign Lamar Houston in free agency, that defensive line that was a weakness now becomes a strength.

6. Atlanta Falcons
Needs: DE, OL, TE
The pick: Jake Matthews (OT, Texas A&M) – This is a no-brainer for the Dirty Birds. You have an elite QB that needs protection. Matthews is the most polished and NFL ready tackle in this draft. Also, his pedigree – he's the son of Hall of Famer Bruce Matthews – would lead me to believe he will be good for a long time.

7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Needs: DE, TE, OT
The pick: Khalil Mack (LB, Buffalo) – If I'm Tampa, I'm trying to trade out of this spot and get a couple more picks. But I'm not doing trades in this mock. Lovie Smith saw first-hand the impact Derrick Brooks had in Tampa. Pairing Mack with Lavonte David would give Tampa an outstanding pair of outside backers. Mack's ability to rush the QB also fills a major need for the Bucs as well.

8. Minnesota Vikings
Needs: QB, DE, OG
The pick: Blake Bortles (QB, Central Florida) – I'm not as high on Bortles as some because he needs a lot of development and you shouldn't draft QBs in the first round unless they are plug-and-play guys. However, this is a unique situation. I love the fact that he will get tutored by Norv Turner, and Bortles has two years outside in the cold to hone his skills in preparation for Minnesota moving into their new stadium, which gives him the growth period he needs.

9. Buffalo Bills
Needs: LB, TE, RT
The pick: Eric Ebron (TE, North Carolina) – He's a dynamic matchup nightmare. Good speed, great body control and top-shelf mitts. Another weapon to put around second-year QB EJ Manuel.

10. Detroit Lions
Needs: CB, WR, Safety
The pick: Mike Evans (WR, Texas A&M) – The Lions could go corner here, but with so much emphasis on Matthew Stafford, why not add another tall, physically imposing option opposite of Calvin Johnson? Evans high-points the football better than any wide receiver I've seen enter the league in the last couple years. He really utilizes his height (6-foot-5) and has a gigantic catch radius. Bombs away in Motown!

11. Tennessee Titans
Needs: Safety, DE, QB
The pick: Kony Ealy (DE, Missouri) – Explosive edge rusher fills a major need for this Titans. Plus, he has the talent deserving of a top-15 pick. He's equally adept playing the run or rushing the passer. Ealy possesses a good first step and relentless motor.

12. New York Giants
Needs: LB, CB, OL
The pick: Darqueze Dennard (CB, Michigan State) – The most complete conerback in this draft, Dennard is capable in zone or man-to-man schemes. He does an excellent job of playing the football in the air. He's tough and physical versus the run and will come up and hit. He can eliminate the opposing team's best WR.

13. St. Louis Rams
Needs: OL, WR, Safety
The pick: Calvin Pryor (Safety, Louisville) – The Rams continue to check off boxes with talented young defenders. They secured their OT at No. 2 and now solidify the back end of their defense with the draft's most physically imposing safety – not in stature but in in-game impact. Pryor flies around and hits people. He fits in with Greg Williams' aggressive, attacking schemes.

14. Chicago Bears
Needs: DL, Safety, OL
The pick: Timmy Jernigan (DT, Florida State) – With the uncertainty surrounding Henry Melton following ACL surgery, the Bears need to replenish their defensive front that was among the worst in football last year. Jernigan is a stout, strong, physical presence that dominates with power more than speed. At his best, he's a nightmare for interior offensive lines to contain.

15. Pittsburgh Steelers
Needs: OT, Safety, CB
The pick: Taylor Lewan (OT, Michigan) – The Steelers will be sprinting to the podium if Lewan is still available. They have a major need at OT and Lewan is a top-shelf talent who's huge and has elite athleticism for a guy his size.

16. Dallas Cowboys
Needs: DE, CB, Safety
The pick: Louis Nix III (DT, Notre Dame) – In a surprise, the Cowboys go Nix here instead of safety. Rod Marinelli, who was promoted to defensive coordinator, will be banging on the table to get the big defensive tackle. Nix will instantly make the guys behind him better and force teams to alter how they currently scheme the Cowboys' front. Light on his feet and exceptionally quick for someone his size, Nix is scheme versatile and would fit perfectly in Dallas.

17. Baltimore Ravens
Needs: OT, C, WR
The pick: Odell Beckham (WR, LSU) – Explosive and fearless are just a few words that come to mind when watching Beckham's tape. Joe Flacco finally gets the missing piece to the puzzle on offense. After re-signing Dennis Pitta, the Ravens still need an elite WR opposite Torrey Smith and this fills that void. Beckham also can step in and replace Jacoby Jones in the return game.

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Marqise Lee participates in a pass catching drill during the 2014 NFL Combine (USA TODAY Sports)
18. New York Jets
Needs: WR, OG, CB
The pick: Marqise Lee (WR, USC) – After an inconsistent season, first-year QB Geno Smith finished up the year on a strong note. The best way for him to continue that upward tick is to get him better weapons. Lee is polished and if you go by his sophomore tape this could be a steal for the Jets. Lee is an excellent route runner good in and out of his breaks and does a lot with the ball after the catch.

19. Miami Dolphins
Needs: OT, OG, RB
The pick: Zach Martin (OT, Notre Dame) – The versatile lineman is an elite prospect at guard and solid prospect at tackle. This pick will allow Miami maximum flexibility moving forward. I will have a much better feel for this pick based on what the Dolphins do in free agency.

20. Arizona Cardinals
Needs: OT, CB, OLB
The pick: Anthony Barr (LB, UCLA) – Every year a player falls for no significant reason. I think Barr is that player this year. Luckily for him, he won't get past here because Arizona has a need for an OLB who can rush the quarterback, and he fits the bill perfectly.

21. Green Bay Packers
Needs: TE, Safety, LB
The pick: Ha Ha Clinton Dix (Safety, Alabama) – Dix has a solid all-around game, is excellent as a centerfielder but also can tackle in space. He fills a major need for Green Bay.

22. Philadelphia Eagles
Needs: OLB, Safety, CB
The pick: Justin Gilbert (CB, Oklahoma State) – Speed, speed and more speed. Gilbert is fast, and it shows on tape. He's not as aggressive in man-to-man coverage as I'd like but is still a good fit for Philly. He has decent but not elite ball skills. What puts Gilbert over the top is his return ability. He would be an instant upgrade for the Eagles' special teams.

23. Kansas City Chiefs
Needs: WR, DL, ILB
The pick: C.J. Mosley (LB, Alabama) – The Chiefs already have an elite group in their front seven. Mosley gets them over the hump. Some will say go wide receiver here, but putting Mosley next to Derrick Johnson makes them better in the long run. It's a deep draft at receiver and they can grab one later.

24. Cincinnati Bengals
Needs: CB, OLB, Safety
The pick: Kyle Fuller (CB, Virginia Tech) – For a defense that has excelled, the Bengals have not gotten above-average play from their corners (injury and performance). Fuller passed all his medicals at the combine, so now it's just about the tape, and boy is his tape good. Put on Va. Tech vs. Alabama in last year's opener if you don't believe me. An instant upgrade at corner, Fuller has elite playmaking skills, is aggressive and plays with All-Pro confidence.

25. San Diego Chargers
Needs: CB, OG, OLB
The pick: David Yankey (OG, Stanford) – A lot like Atlanta, the Chargers have an elite quarterback who needs protection to flourish. They need an upgrade along the interior of their offensive line and Yankey fills that void. This won't be an exciting selection for Chargers fans, but it makes the team better.

26. Cleveland Browns
Needs: QB, RB, OG
The pick: Bradley Roby (CB, Ohio State) – I know, I know, no QB here. I think the Browns again bypass QB and go best available. Roby gives them an outstanding tandem of corners (opposite Joe Haden) and a tremendous back end assuming they re-sign T.J. Ward. Mike Pettine is a defensive-minded head coach and will be licking his fingers drawing up ways to get to the QB with Roby and Haden covering.

27. New Orleans Saints
Needs: OT, OLB, CB
The pick: Cyrus Kouandjio (OL, Alabama) – The big 'Bama tackle has struggled a little through the postseason draft process and drops because of it. New Orleans jumps at the chance to snatch up Kouandjio and solidify their tackle positions after the impressive performance at the end of the year by Terron Armstead.

28. Carolina Panthers
Needs: WR, CB, OL
The pick: Brandin Cooks (WR, Oregon State) – Explosive and fast, Cooks has aced the postseason process and his tape validates his performances. I will follow what the Panthers do in free agency closely because Jordan Gross retiring leaves them in a bad spot regarding their o-line.

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Shaun King does not have Johnny Manziel going in the first round. (Getty Images)
29. New England Patriots
Needs: OL, DL, CB
The pick: Dee Ford (DE, Auburn) – One of the best edge rushers in the draft. The Patriots are a perfect fit for him based on Bill Belichick's ability to mirror his defensive scheme to his personnel. What has been a weakness (pass rush) can become a strength with Ford and Chandler Jones.

30. San Francisco 49ers
Needs: WR, DL, CB
The pick: Stephon Tuitt (DE, Notre Dame) – The rich get richer. After taking Tank Carradine last year, the Niners double back and get Tuitt here. Two young, talented defensive linemen in the fold step in and make them younger at this position.

31. Denver Broncos
Needs: OT, CB, DL
The pick: Stanley Jean-Baptiste (CB, Nebraska) – One thing John Elway learned in the Super Bowl loss to Seattle was the importance of having a big corner who can take away one side of the field. Baptiste isn't Richard Sherman just yet, but he has all the skills to eventually be on that level. A great combination of size, skill and athleticism, he has excellent ball skills (which I love in a corner) and a corner's mentality (ability to move on from bad plays). A great legacy enhancer for Champ Bailey would be to impart his knowledge of the nuances of the position onto his new understudy.

32. Seattle Seahawks
Needs: WR, TE, OL
The pick: Antonio Richardson (OT, Tennessee) – I almost went tight end here because of the fit with Austin Sefarian-Jenkins. But Richardson is too talented a prospect to pass up. Also not having to defend Russ Wilson's blindside from Day 1 will allow "Tiny" the time he needs to refine his rough edges.
 
Shaun King with one of the better mocks I've seen, dude knows whats up.

19. Miami Dolphins
Needs: OT, OG, RB
The pick: Zach Martin (OT, Notre Dame) – The versatile lineman is an elite prospect at guard and solid prospect at tackle. This pick will allow Miami maximum flexibility moving forward. I will have a much better feel for this pick based on what the Dolphins do in free agency.

Seeing how we are pushing hard for a FA LT, I think Miami has other plans for this pick.
 

squicken

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hmm I was just wondering the other day how high Donald could conceivably go. 5 seems so high, but then I had wondered if there was an outside chance that Tampa would take him
 
hmm I was just wondering the other day how high Donald could conceivably go. 5 seems so high, but then I had wondered if there was an outside chance that Tampa would take him



I think he's gonna have a much bigger impact than Mack, so I'd be really happy with the pick, myself.

Not sure Tampa would take him since they have McCoy and need to get him some help on the edge. I think Mack would be a better fit for them, assuming he falls that far.
 

MRSA

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Fuck taking Aaron Donald at #5. DT is probably the most high risk/high reward position. Other than that thug Suh, most of the DTs are not top 5 material.
 
JFF dropping out of the first round would make for an entertaining social media day.

I haven't really been following a lot of these mock draft but just last week I read like 4 of them where he was projected to go first overall.

Crazy.... since at least 3 teams need a QB.
 

squicken

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JFF dropping out of the first round would make for an entertaining social media day.

It's the time of the smokescreen. No one can watch Derek Carr and Jimmy Garopollo play college ball and think they are going to be better pros than JFF. If Manziel falls it's b/c he fails the off field stuff, which he very well may. He likes the lights, and maybe too much
 

MechDX

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Packers and B.J. Raji are close to completing a 1-year deal that will keep the DT in Green Bay and off the free-agent market, per sources.--Schefter
 

squicken

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Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

The backup/pseudo starting QB market is interesting. Michael Vick, Josh McCown, Matt Schaub, (likely) Mark Sanchez, Matt Cassel, etc.

Assumed Josh McCown would return to #Bears. But they haven’t seemed committed to it. As of now, looks like he’ll hit the market #Jets #Bucs

When Matt Cassel opted out of his deal with #Vikings, it made him a FA. The interest from his Pats connection Bill O’Brien & #Texans is real

Bears didn't pay Cutler all that money for fans and media to wonder if the backup might be better and much cheaper
 
Maybe we can bring Champ back on a reduced contract. Champ in his prime was too good but he really started to fall off.

That would be great (or even if we can move him to safety like people have been talking about forever), but I don't see it happening. Unfortunately, since he really helped on recognition and communication of plays. He just didn't have the step he had to before to not get burned often - at least not for $10 mil a year.
 

squicken

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Chickens were #4

The argument also could be made that defensive football has regressed in recent years. New rules limiting offseason preparation and in-season practices have led to a poor tackling epidemic. But the Seahawks went against the trend. "The thing that is outstanding about Seattle is they are very, very good tacklers," Hall of Fame coach Bill Parcells said. "The majority of them are good tacklers. They particularly tackle well in the secondary. That is a place where poor tackling shows up. Not there."

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The Seahawks secondary plays differently than many of the other great secondaries and most other current ones. These DBs try to interfere with the route running of receivers, both at the line and beyond. "That secondary is well put together, and the cornerbacks get away with holding," Marvin Lewis said, echoing a common refrain. "They didn't hold in the Super Bowl, but they did it all year long. They play the game very aggressively."

Lewis is on the competition committee, so is Fisher, and both have spoken about the officials looking to re-enforce defensive holding. Also look for the trash talking, if not the ban on the n-word, to get flagged a lot more
 
Bears didn't pay Cutler all that money for fans and media to wonder if the backup might be better and much cheaper

The Bears are insane if they let a backup that can run the offense leave because they are afraid of what the fans might say. Cutler has shown that he does get hurt, they should want the best backup they can possibly get.


That defense list is a joke. The 1990 Eagles D was most definitely top 10 at the very least.
 

squicken

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B/R Warning

How Valuable Is Free Agent Safety Jairus Byrd?

"He has great instincts and ball awareness," a personnel director said. "He's a leader back there. When the ball is in the air, he finds it."

He also is the only potential difference maker of the UFAs who aren't tagged, according to five front-office men I spoke with.

"There aren't many like him," said one NFC high-ranking exec. "Athletic play-making safeties are hard to find."

Since he has been in the league, Byrd has more interceptions and more forced fumbles than any other safety. He has come up with 33 interceptions or forced fumbles in 73 games—or one every 2.2 games.

"Interceptions change games, and that's what he does," said a pro personnel director. "When you have an elite talent like that, you better pay him. The fall off after the elite guys is pretty drastic. Most of the league is playing with safeties they just hope get lined up right."

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Many teams still remain hesitant to invest an inordinate amount in a safety unless that safety clearly tilts the field, though.

"I'm not in the market of overpaying for safeties," an AFC front-office man said. "I'd rather pay cornerbacks. You can find safeties. They are easy to replace if you have good corners."

The pro personnel man said Byrd is "not an elite athlete. He is a good athlete with ball skills."
 
"I'm not in the market of overpaying for safeties," an AFC front-office man said. "I'd rather pay cornerbacks. You can find safeties. They are easy to replace if you have good corners."

Nice of them to interview Andy Reid for that article.
 
On Ward, mainly for Eagles Gaf if you really did get him. He's a good player. great run stopper, plays well in the box. You can expect to see a couple big hits from him a season on highlights. But he's not great in the coverage department and lacks the big play Int ability, he's never really had those. He's also never really been able to stay healthy for a whole season besides last, maybe because of his play style. He's a good player, but is he a difference maker at the position? I would say no.
 

squicken

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Well, he turned down all that money the bills were gonna give him. So he's not really looking to be overpaid at this point.

Article says he wants $9m/yr. We don't know what BUF was offering him. I think if he was willing to play for $5m/yr all 32 teams would be at his door at midnight on the 11th

Jackson signing with the Colts means they may be out of the Mack market. Bummer, b/c the Colts desperately need interior OL help
 
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