ActStriker
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Oh yeah, HUGE improvement.
Coming from Sanchez though..
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Coming from Sanchez though..
Sweeney Tom
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‏@mikerodak
Bills QBs very mediocre today. From 11-on-11s that I watched:
Cassel: 5 for 7, INT
Taylor: 2 for 4, 3 sacks, TD
Manuel: 0 for 1, 2 sacks
WANDERINGWIND, TYROD LEADING THE WAY
IT'S HAPPENING
DDDDD
Bills QBs very mediocre today. From 11-on-11s that I watched:
Cassel: 5 for 7, INT
Taylor: 2 for 4, 3 sacks, TD
Manuel: 0 for 1, 2 sacks
WANDERINGWIND, TYROD LEADING THE WAY
IT'S HAPPENING
DDDDDCrocMother
Banned
Eagles worst defense in the league? That's news to me. I didn't think they were even the worst in the division.
Don't tell me you are delusional enough to believe this right? Bradford is horrendous.
No they are both equally as shitty.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
They had the worst pass defense rating. Their run defense was tops though.
Something to keep in mind in regards to the Eagles and Bradford. The Eagles scored more points with Foles/Sanchez than Dallas did with Romo (who was the most accurate passer last year, more accurate than Rodgers as I recall) playing basically a full season. System is QB friendly. If Bradford reduces turnovers and 3 & outs I expect the Eagles to be a better team than last year. If the defense doesn't put up league worst pass defense I expect them to be a better team than last year.
...is a downgrade.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Haha, that is a great gif.
In return I offer you a picture of Cameron Wake and a tiger:
Haha, that is a great gif.
In return I offer you a picture of Cameron Wake and a tiger:
That tiger looks so sad.
‏@mikerodak
Bills QBs very mediocre today. From 11-on-11s that I watched:
Cassel: 5 for 7, INT
Taylor: 2 for 4, 3 sacks, TD
Manuel: 0 for 1, 2 sacks
WANDERINGWIND, TYROD LEADING THE WAY
IT'S HAPPENING
Rex Ryans defense is just that good.
Yeah, Redskins and Giants had worse defenses. No Beason, all the corners injured, Safeties abysmal, Kiwi starting most of the year, Perry Fewell not using the young guys. Just pure shit.
On that note: Giants DL at the moment in camp is George Selvie, John Hankins, Cullen Jenkins, and Robert Ayers. I hope Odiggy gets a good opportunity.
The Eagles defense was bad because of Chip Kelly's offense. You can't have a no huddle offense, on the field for 20% of the game and then expect the defense to carry the burden for 80% of the game. Defenders will eventually get tired, it doesn't matter what personal you put on the field.
Can't wait to watch Suh and Wake tear up the league this season. Luckily the Lions don't have to play the Dolphins for another 4 years unless we happen to meet in the Super Bowl (which is possible IMO).
Can't wait to watch Suh and Wake tear up the league this season. Luckily the Lions don't have to play the Dolphins for another 4 years unless we happen to meet in the Super Bowl (which is possible IMO).
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Yeah, Giants D was bad last year in both pass and rush. Eagles were only bad in pass defense.
Chip Kelly's offense didn't make the offense go 3 and out at a very high rate. Chip Kelly's offense didn't cause the defense to give up a ridiculous number of 3rd and long conversions either. The terrible pass defense caused the conversions. The Eagles were more successful defending 3rd and short last year than 3rd and long. And the offense went 3 and out often because Shady would dance around in the backfield and it would be 3rd and 15 before you knew it. I think two of Kelly's goals in the offseason were to address exactly those two things by signing North/South runners and signing the best CB he could get his hands on, and drafting another high in the second round.
You can have a no-huddle offense, you just can't have a hurry-up no-huddle offense and expect your defense to hold up. You can eat clock without huddling - just go to the line immediately and then read the defense, make adjustments, etc.
CrocMother
Banned
Dallas was a running team that would score and run down the clock while pounding the opposing D with their O line.. Phillys offense would score way too quick and teir D would get tired, which is why they gave up so many big plays downfield. More points scored doesn't equal a better team overall.
The Giants run defense was just horrendous on the edge. The DE's didn't contain that great, and the OLB always over-pursued. And as I said, Safety play with Rolle, Demps, and Stevie Brown was all really bad.
I know Spags doesn't have a ton to work with this year, but they can't possibly be any worse.
Alligatorjandro
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How do you get sacked in practice‏@mikerodak
Bills QBs very mediocre today. From 11-on-11s that I watched:
Cassel: 5 for 7, INT
Taylor: 2 for 4, 3 sacks, TD
Manuel: 0 for 1, 2 sacks
WANDERINGWIND, TYROD LEADING THE WAY
IT'S HAPPENING
Alligatorjandro
Banned
Thank you gramps
Who's down with JPP?
DUMB AS FUCK
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
We can have the TOP argument if you want, but it's pretty useless. The vaunted Dallas O-Line put up basically their worst run numbers against the Eagles front seven last season. There was absolutely nothing worn down about the Eagles run defense all season. The problem was the pass defense. TOP is as much about not giving your opponent the opportunity to score as it is about wearing out defenses. Kelly's offense eliminates one of those two advantages. Kelly's offense gives an advantage over other defenses by tiring them out. It's a wash really.
Now get off my lawn.
:jnc
Dutch Gronk
Banned
Dumber than Richardson?
Who's down with JPP?
I don't understand where his head's at. Why is he avoiding his team and the league? Embarrassment? Is he retired now but forgot to inform anyone?
Who's down with JPP?
What fingers did that dumb ass blow off?
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wasnt it just the index finger?
Money, Money, Money, Money and Money.
CrocMother
Banned
If the Eagles have a QB playing well their system works like a charm. Sanchez looked like Joe Montana on thanksgiving. If you are playing a ruining team like the cowboys and your d line wins up front it turns into an ass whooping, again like on thanksgiving.
He gets more money by not playing football? I don't understand.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
Even in the second game the Eagles held Murray to 80 yards. They lost that game because their pass defense sucked and Sanchez threw two INTs. If they reduce turnovers the D wouldn't have been as tired and they'd have had more scoring chances. That's the game Bradley Fletcher got burned by Dez for like a 30 yard TD reception. I think Bradford has a good chance of reducing the INTs. I think Maxwell can cover Dez better than Bradley Fletcher or Cary Williams. Kelly tried to address those two gaping issues this offseason, now it's just a matter of seeing if he was successful.
We'll see. Maxie won't have Earl & Kam behind him anymore.
The players said themselves that they felt good at the end of the season, the defense was not tired. Cary maybe, but that's because he refused to put the work in.
We were also 3rd in the NFL in offensive PPG behind only DEN and GB. That was with Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez. Bradford is better than both of them. Be scared.
You guys may not have Kam back there either.
AbortedWalrusFetus
Member
No, he won't. Malcolm Jenkins is pretty damn good though. There is a huge questionmark with Walter Thurmond or whoever else plays safety. But can it really get worse than Nate Allen? You don't need Kam, you just need to get a safety that can actually be the deepest man on the field once or twice a game, something which Nate Allen could never do.
Giants could put him on the NFI list if he signs the tender, which would cost him money, he has no obligation to report to the team as he's not under contract with the Giants.
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2015/07/jason_pierre-paul_fallout_what_is_nfi_and_why_he_s.html
Basically, the NFI list is like the pup list and he won't get paid for the first six games of the season, he wants to rehab and come around game 5 instead of game 7.
trembling, thank god the Packers won't play them this year, they might only win by 30
Yep, we don't need to be the best defense in the NFL by any means, but we need to be better than last year, and Nate Allen is just an addition by subtraction. WT3 has Maxwell's back, fuck Seattle.
You guys beat Mark Sanchez. Congrats.
:jnc he's losing 30 G's everyday he holds out, never mind how much he'd lose by holding out into the season.
He'll be there.
So he's hoping he can force the Giants to release him and then get someone else to pay him? Am I reading that correctly?
Fucking guy blew up his hand on purpose; that slippery bitch!
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Pepiope is closing in on kas' long held title of "Most Delusional NFL-GAF member."
CrocMother
Banned
I'm really curious how DeMarco does in that system. He is a player that thrives on getting into a groove with lots of carries, but was noticeably wore down by the end of the season. He will have a lighter load but less opportunity to get into a rhythm.
Nah, he just doesn't want to be put on the NFI list, basically he wants to rehab and be ready by game 3-4-5 instead of game 7.
There's no reason for the Giants to release him and have him sign with the Cowboys/Eagles this year (next year otoh he'll be a true free agent so there's nothing the Giants can do).