How willfully ignorant do you have to be to read it that way? He specifically excluded the girls and told them to sit down while he spoke to the boys about how girls are meant to be quiet but they (the boys, who he was speaking to) can do whatever they want.
NFL QB Jameis Winston tells classroom that girls "[a]re supposed to be silent"
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How willfully ignorant do you have to be to read it that way? He specifically excluded the girls and told them to sit down while he spoke to the boys about how girls are meant to be quiet but they (the boys, who he was speaking to) can do whatever they want.
I think the whole quote makes it pretty clear he didn't mean that.
PandaPandaPanda
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I really liked him this season since he seemed like good team leader for the Bucs but won't be cheering for him anymore.
Feel the Swift
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If you actually believe he's that dumb to go into an elementary school and preach that rhetoric, then sure.
don't answer that, I know you do lol
Ace Harding
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Its really hard to know just seeing that quote, but I can imagine he was attempting to say something like:
"Men are SUPPOSED to be strong and loud - why am I not hearing you? Society says women are SUPPOSED to be quiet, but it doesn't have to be like that - you can be whatever you want to be so let me all hear you scream."
That's not a great thing to say either, but I don't take what he said to mean "I believe women should be silent."
I don't know anything about the dude so maybe I'm giving him too much of a benefit of the doubt.
"Men are SUPPOSED to be strong and loud - why am I not hearing you? Society says women are SUPPOSED to be quiet, but it doesn't have to be like that - you can be whatever you want to be so let me all hear you scream."
That's not a great thing to say either, but I don't take what he said to mean "I believe women should be silent."
I don't know anything about the dude so maybe I'm giving him too much of a benefit of the doubt.
Captainbojanglesiii
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Jameis is and always has been a good leader on the field. He's just kind of dumb off the field.
Watch the video. He's that dumb.
http://video.tampabay.com?ndn.trackingGroup=90964&ndn.siteSection=tampabaytimes&ndn.videoId=32028345
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It was crab legs actually.
Stormhammer
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hittin the kids with the wisdumb
Sarcastic Poster
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Innocent until proven guilty, except when it's sexual assault and then it's guilty after proven not guilty.
InfiniteBento
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Fucking stupid
I did say hoping...
Winston was honestly doing so well since he left FSU in terms of being a person
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Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Poor choice of words, he had no harmful intent at all.
Gentleman Jack
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I did not get that impression at all from the video.
Goro Majima
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Kinda crazy that the boys weren't paying attention to the starting quarterback for the local team.
If Paul Molitor or Robin Yount from the Brewers came to speak at my elementary school in Milwaukee, we would have been on the edge of our seats.
Obviously the comments he made were pretty awful but it's just a weird situation unless he read the room wrong.
If Paul Molitor or Robin Yount from the Brewers came to speak at my elementary school in Milwaukee, we would have been on the edge of our seats.
Obviously the comments he made were pretty awful but it's just a weird situation unless he read the room wrong.
If they were dungeoness, then I'm not saying I think it's right, but I understand.
Truth. Just because someone is in position to be a role model doesn't mean they are one.
HarryDemeanor
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What is it going to take for him to learn?
Settling is not proof of innocence.
Carpe Carnim
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As someone who lived through the farce of Winston's "innocence" wrt sexual assault, I can say with all certainty that you have no earthly idea what you're talking about, especially considering that he was never brought before a court to adjudicate guilt or innocence. But you keep capin' for your heroes, bruh.
Reptars Revenge
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He definitely meant well but didn't convey his message correctly, mostly because he's an idiot. What can you expect from face snacking university. People should be more concerned with the message that you don't need to learn anything and accomplish anything as long as you have raw talent.
Carpe Carnim
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We prefer Free Shoes University.
Then don't tell the girls to sit down. Otherwise if men should be strong and women silent, is he telling the guys they shouldn't be strong?
He just forgot to pay which is different than stealing.
Jazzy Network
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Guy's an idiot. This pretty much cements that notion.
rocketskates
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Alot of tone deaf gaffers ITT.
That man is clearly trying to bludgen these kids with an outdated and harmful message. Video is clear as day. I know he won some games for you but this shit is reprehensible
Reptars Revenge
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He ate their facessss
Bay Maximus
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This is a nonevent imo. Poor choice of words, he even said as much himself. I mean, he's not a trained public speaker or a politician so yeah, people are bound to say dumb sounding things off-script. Moving on
It's doesn't sound like you read all the words.
soul creator
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Yeah, I was only going by the written quote at first, but the video finally loaded and it definitely supports the "It's Jameis Winston" position, haha.
I don't think he's a bad guy, and I agree that his intentions weren't harmful.. but that "choice of words" is indicative of a belief system and an attitude about the way different genders should behave that is problematic.
He's rightly catching flack for this. As someone who works with kids, I could very easily lose my job for saying something like this to a group of girls.
bucknuticus
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Weird, Jameis is a piece of shit? Who could have ever guessed.
Vegetable Lasagna
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Hopefully there are no girls posting to this forum. You need to sit down, be silent and make me some crab.
Pai Pai Master
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What a piece of shit thing to say. We've told young women for decades that they're not worth our effort. I hope every girl in that class comes out of that experience more empowered and in defiance of the bullshit he's peddling.
Reptars Revenge
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Tampa radio is super pissed at ESPN for blowing this out of proportion. "Now Jameis will never have the courage to talk to students again and the students will suffer because of it"
TheLostBigBoss
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Guy accused of rape says women should sit down, stay quiet and be lady like?
Huh.
Huh.
TangoAlphaLima
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Not just a poor choice of words. Why is he even discussing gender differences to a group of boys and girls? Women can't be strong? Women can't do anything they put their minds to? Terrible message overall.
Who vetted this speech anyway? Does the school administrator just rubber stamp any pro athlete that wants to come speak to the students? The content of the speech doesn't matter?
Nah, pretty sure they won't.
Ninja Scooter
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I don't understand why you have him speaking to school kids anyway. Outside of being famous and being good at football what possible insight could he have for a group of kids?
Captainbojanglesiii
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There are 53 players on the roster at all times. I'm sure the kids would be cool with any other player coming in
Regardless, it was a pretty stupid thing to say/do, and Jameis has no shortage of pretty short-sighted moments. I don't think him saying this makes him a monster, but I think it was incredibly stupid, and it's not like the sentiment behind it is anything special. "Boys, you can do anything. Girls, sit down". Like, if you're bringing in Jameis just to say "You can do anything", any other player who isn't gonna screw it up is a better option for 'someone who made it'
Being famous and good at football is enough, especially in Florida. The teachers and administration were probably just excited to meet a football player.
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