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NFL Training Camp/Preseason Thread 2012 - A Farewell to snes :(
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"Have you accepted Tim Tebow as your sunday savior?"
Wow, you're just digging yourself even deeper.
Too late for the Shirtless league.
I'm considering starting yet another one. If I do, I'm going to post it in here and it'll be a free-for-all. Anyone else still want to play?
Sounds great, im loving NCAA atm.(Badgers whoo!) If its anything like that ill be happy!!
yankeehater
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They brought in Vick when Mcnabb was the starter, and before Kolb had even started a single game. They signed Vick because it was 0 risk and because Dungy/the league asked them to. Kolb was not a factor in that in any way. The followiung season the Eagles named Kolb the starter, and gave him all the 1st team reps in practice/training camp. The Eagles traded him after he got hurt and Vick had such an amazing year.
Futurevoid
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO7I31VwUYgG-Fex said:
Honestly how I felt when I realized I was doomed when I picked the Browns as my team. I can't just jump ship, I don't care what anyone says as soon as the new team shows some promise everyone would be ripping on me for being a bandwagoner. Whether people want to admit it or not.
But I am having fun seeing these Browns. The amount of PMs and messages I got from people a few seasons ago when they beat the Pats was amazing. As of now that is my SUPER BOWL!
Spectral Glider
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That's the company line, yes.
You must have felt good when the weather and Cribbs combined forces to basically knock us out of the playoffs. Not often you can give the cities weather an assist in a win.
Also :lol @ yh. dude must work for the Eagles. Sounds like gaming age levels of denial.
Just so you know, I get what you are saying. It was a nuanced situation. But since you've been pegged as the Kolb guy, it will always be hyperbole. It's not like Whiz has shown any ability besides having Kurt Warner fall from the sky. Kolb isn't good enough to make it in any situation, which is similar to all but 5 or 6 guys. Maybe in Philly or SF he could have flourished. As it is he's pretty much broken. Plays scared. Skelton sucks too. At least their mistakes didn't cost $60m
Pfft, you just can't handle the #1 QB in the demo.
FrenchMovieTheme
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And there it is ladies!
It's really no different than FMT's argument that Harbaugh turned around Alex Smith. Kolb certainly benefited from working with Reid. So much so that he looks like a completely different QB in Arizona. You can replace Harbaugh with Niners and Reid with Eagles and it would certainly hold true.
TheLegendary
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Man, what an amazing start to the season that was.The reason Kolb sucks:
Oh great, now squicken needs an Eagles avatar.
I don't know about yankeehater but LMAO@ at the stupid idiots in Eagles fan-base who always clamored for the back up because almost everyone was always better than McNabb!
Kolb always sucked. The Eagles picked for no good reason in the 07 draft way too early (in the 2nd round). I still can't believe they pulled that off. Still pissed that they did that. McNabb coming off of two back to back season ending injuries, TO gone, 0 weapons at WR, and instead of improving the team for now they traded out of the first round and then selected Kolb for the "future". And hell if you are going to select him for that, select him the 4-5 round where he would be still available. But that is the great Eagles FO. They always know so much more than everyone else. Smartest men in the room.
As for the actual execution here is my theory and I always believed in this. McNabb contract was up. He played terrible in the wildcard game against the Cowboys in 09. They saw an opportunity to finally ship him out of town (which they lost out on in 08 when McNabb and the team made a miraculous run into the playoffs to the NFC Champ game). Couldn't get rid of him after that run but the writing was on the wall. After that miracle run they continued to tear the team down rather than improving it. They got rid of key veterans and replaced them with unknowns which for a team that was just knocked out of another championship game doesn't signal "going for it".
So in 09 when the D still stunk and McNabb shit the bed in the playoffs, they had their out. They never wanted to give him another big money contract and they already wasted a high pick and invested money into Kolb. So ready or not he had to start. Good or bad he had to take over. Over half the fan base had already magically concluded he was better than McNabb and Reid can apparently make everyone into a good QB.
So they trade McNabb and now Kolb is the man. He has all the weapons at his disposal minus a stellar OLINE. He has DJAX, Maclin, and McCoy. He has the genius that is Reid running the offense. 4 years to sit and learn. All we hear is how accurate he is and how unlike McNabb he always hits the guys in stride and every pass is a gift from the gods above.
Too bad he can't stay healthy and at the very first chance to lose his job, he does lose his job. To who? To a guy who just got out of prison, who even before going to prison wasn't a great QB, never put in the time, never cared to learn the position, and someone brand new to the system. Someone who was brought in only to repair his image, run the wild cat, and possibly turn into trade bait (they tried trading him after that first season but no one wanted him). Kolb was so terrible that he lost out to Vick. Now Vick has turned his life both on and off the field around and say what you will about his ability to play, at least he is trying now. To me this is his make or break year (hopefully along with Reid) but the fact that he won the job over Kolb is laughable. To me Kolb was never better than McNabb, never ready to take over, and not because he is a bad guy, doesn't try hard enough, or whatever else character defining trait you can think of. Its because he just wasn't good enough to begin with.
They could have kept McNabb for another 2-3 seasons, run the same offense that even in his last season was putting up tons of #s in the passing game, and had the same end result with a bad/terrible D. The real problem was the D.
But then they addressed that by replacing McDermott with OLINE coach Juan Castillo.
THIS TEAM
Kolb always sucked. The Eagles picked for no good reason in the 07 draft way too early (in the 2nd round). I still can't believe they pulled that off. Still pissed that they did that. McNabb coming off of two back to back season ending injuries, TO gone, 0 weapons at WR, and instead of improving the team for now they traded out of the first round and then selected Kolb for the "future". And hell if you are going to select him for that, select him the 4-5 round where he would be still available. But that is the great Eagles FO. They always know so much more than everyone else. Smartest men in the room.
As for the actual execution here is my theory and I always believed in this. McNabb contract was up. He played terrible in the wildcard game against the Cowboys in 09. They saw an opportunity to finally ship him out of town (which they lost out on in 08 when McNabb and the team made a miraculous run into the playoffs to the NFC Champ game). Couldn't get rid of him after that run but the writing was on the wall. After that miracle run they continued to tear the team down rather than improving it. They got rid of key veterans and replaced them with unknowns which for a team that was just knocked out of another championship game doesn't signal "going for it".
So in 09 when the D still stunk and McNabb shit the bed in the playoffs, they had their out. They never wanted to give him another big money contract and they already wasted a high pick and invested money into Kolb. So ready or not he had to start. Good or bad he had to take over. Over half the fan base had already magically concluded he was better than McNabb and Reid can apparently make everyone into a good QB.
So they trade McNabb and now Kolb is the man. He has all the weapons at his disposal minus a stellar OLINE. He has DJAX, Maclin, and McCoy. He has the genius that is Reid running the offense. 4 years to sit and learn. All we hear is how accurate he is and how unlike McNabb he always hits the guys in stride and every pass is a gift from the gods above.
Too bad he can't stay healthy and at the very first chance to lose his job, he does lose his job. To who? To a guy who just got out of prison, who even before going to prison wasn't a great QB, never put in the time, never cared to learn the position, and someone brand new to the system. Someone who was brought in only to repair his image, run the wild cat, and possibly turn into trade bait (they tried trading him after that first season but no one wanted him). Kolb was so terrible that he lost out to Vick. Now Vick has turned his life both on and off the field around and say what you will about his ability to play, at least he is trying now. To me this is his make or break year (hopefully along with Reid) but the fact that he won the job over Kolb is laughable. To me Kolb was never better than McNabb, never ready to take over, and not because he is a bad guy, doesn't try hard enough, or whatever else character defining trait you can think of. Its because he just wasn't good enough to begin with.
They could have kept McNabb for another 2-3 seasons, run the same offense that even in his last season was putting up tons of #s in the passing game, and had the same end result with a bad/terrible D. The real problem was the D.
But then they addressed that by replacing McDermott with OLINE coach Juan Castillo.
THIS TEAM
Futurevoid
Member
Best tune in tonight folks.
Damn, I was wondering if that footage would make it in time for this week's episode.
That's going to be entertaining.
huh?
I'm pretty excited, should I pick up the games between 2 and 3?
I kind of view Kolb like Matt Schaub. Put him in the right system and he can be good enough. If Schaub was in AZ everyone would be making fun of Talon and RBH for how shitty he looked. There's really only a handful of guys who can do it no matter where they are. And there's only a handful of teams that know how to develop QBs and/or put them in situations where they can't screw things up.
I wish it was a league where good not great QBs like Tarkenten, Bradshaw, Griese, and Simms could steer well built teams to SBs. But it's not anymore.
DeaconKnowledge
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The reason Kolb sucks:
Matthews should thank Kolb for helping Trick everyone into thinking he was good.
TheLegendary
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Gonna be a good show tonight
I thought that was you standard answer when someone complains about not having access to something?
Wasn't actually supposed to make a lot of sense.
I have HBO Go, it doesn't have Hard Knocks. Not even I have the financial means to force the NFL to allow HBO to make it's programming viewable on all devices.
Grover Cleveland
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Best tune in tonight folks.
Philbin: "Chad...uh...(looks away)...we...uh decided that we...needed...uh...(looks back at Chad)...we needed to...uh...part ways with you...uh (looks away again)...it's not you...it's...uh...us. But...uh we just uh...(looks back at Chad)...don't think you're a...you're a....good fit for this...uh...football team.
cashman said:
Get Brotherhood. Revelations is pretty much a throwaway game (a good one, mind you, but still a throwaway game).
Futurevoid
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Brotherhood, yes. Revelations is forgettable and some of the new stuff they added is fucking horrid (tower defense and those ridiculous first person levels).cashman said:
Bolt Vanderhuge
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Seeing as the proper definition for swag is stolen property then yes, it fits.
cuevas. PhD.
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Watch it on tv, boom problem solved.
But you have the financial means to get a normal subscription.
Actually, I thought HBO Go was only available to people who have HBO anyway? Why not just watch it on your TV?
You know what, I have no idea how HBO works. I wanted to make a stupid comment and it looks like I succeeded with the stupidity :jnc
TheLegendary
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He was amazing in the beginning of 2010. But he's still been good since then. Itd be impossible to expect him to keep up the level he was playing at. Looking beyond the stat sheet shows he's still a good rusher though.
I don't have time, it's baseball season. If I am watching TV I am watching baseball. Only time I watch shows is when I am running.
Thanks for the advice. If I can, I'll pick up both because I'm a sucker for the story, but Brotherhood is my first priority (and probably cheaper).
I think it might be worth it to take a day off from this current season of Brewers Baseball™
Futurevoid
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Marty B came through with his usual off the wall commentary in that regard:Draxal said:
The black unicorn FTW.
He didn't win DPOY (he's no Polamalu - that's for sure!), but I think that season turned out pretty well for him:
yankeehater
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OMFG you nailed it. What ever the over is on awkward uhms is I would still take the over. I really hope we see that Philbin had no power over the move at all.
I don't get the love for the AssCreed franchise. The combat is ass.
yankeehater
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I only played the first AC game and I didnt like it, but 3 looks so good and the setting sounds so awesome that I will be getting it.
Futurevoid
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.Milchjon said: