Kidding aside that run vs the Saints is still such a ballsy call, and Alex has the athleticism to run it. If they really do start using some spread concept running plays it could be amazing to see. I think the rules got clarified a bit to stop all that false start/shifting he was doing tho
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NFL Training Camp/Preseason Thread 2012 - A Farewell to snes :(
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Kidding aside that run vs the Saints is still such a ballsy call, and Alex has the athleticism to run it. If they really do start using some spread concept running plays it could be amazing to see. I think the rules got clarified a bit to stop all that false start/shifting he was doing tho
BaltimoreLarry
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No wonder Carlos Rogers looked so good last year.
FrenchMovieTheme
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alex has always been a good athlete but when he got to the NFL he stopped running for whatever reason.
and that false start play we had was such bullshit. i obviously laughed about it at the time but come on everyone knows what it's designed to do. funny to see harbs defend it as if he doesn't realize why the opponents have a problem with it!
FrenchMovieTheme
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carlos rogers had a grand total of 0 ints against NFC west QB's. he had:
1 vs. bengals
1 vs. eagles
1 vs. bucs
1 vs. redskins
2 vs. giants
but i do agree that carlos rogers is awesome
Good call, Freeman running around in the pocket will surely cause an earthquake of some sort
You people.
racist.
You realize there's no way you can quantify this (or vice versa)?
Anyways, yawn either way.
I don't really get how stuffing your face with chicken is a good way to show your problems with the government. If only these people actually did something of substance instead of just looking for an excuse to eat fast food.
BaltimoreLarry
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True. I forgot we established earlier today that only good QBs throw INTs.
DeaconKnowledge
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He has to say that. They're not giving up on him.
Futurevoid
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I love me my new electronic toys (get your mind outta the gutter!). Ordered my new TV today!
Where did you read this?
Gators have brains the size of a peanut. The season starts in 34 days!
EDIT: Actually, more like 39 days, who gives a fuck about the Cowboyz or Los Gigantes?
They sure as fuck don't answer their pm's about fantasy football.
Wait, so this is a real thing? People are going to CFA to support their political stance? The day I choose my lunch based upon my political affiliation is the day I give you permission to shoot me. Use a large caliber bullet, I don't want any chance of living through it and then becoming a political chess piece.
BlackGhost
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That's really interesting if true
When I posted that I kept looking for a link. I can't remember. It was some camp observation about them using "exotic motion" with backs and WRs in running plays. I added the Chip Kelly part b/c of the James connection.
This is not where I read it but he obviously saw the same thing
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/07/31/camp-tour-2012-santa-clara/
It sure sounds like spread stuff even if he's not calling it that
Dutch Gronk
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Man, I wish I had a place to go to show my political statement. What does an airport say about me ? Maybe I'll eat a croissant there, what does that say about me?
I'm so confused about how to express my political views by doing stuff.
BlackGhost
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Wear a Freeman Jersey infront of TacoBell while eating a fresh cut salad and drinking Naked juice if you really want to express something.
Squall ASF
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It's so cute to see you continue to pretend that Alexis is a legit QB. All based off of a good QB rating that came from ultra conservative play and far fewer throws than other top QB's and far fewer passing TD's. You can be pleased that he didn't lose you games last year, no issue there, but to say he's a good QB is still laughable. He has a great coach, that's it. Now that he has some decent WR's to throw to, Alexis will actually start passing and will be fully exposed this year. It will be a contributing factor to why the Niners do not win as many games this season.
And? What TV?
FrenchMovieTheme
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1. never said alex was a top QB
2. alex is the most legit QB in the division and he still has the same coach
3. we have decent wr's now but look at last year by our final playoff game he was throwing to crabtree, kyle williams, joe hastings and brett swain. lulz
4. of course alex had less throws. we had a new coaching staff in place and no off-season. we opened it up more as the season went on and he had more success
maybe we don't win 13 games this year but if you disagree that we are by far the best team in the division you are delusional
If Matt Cassel is your QB, expect to be the fourth best. Even with all the talent at WR, it doesn't matter when Cassel is back there shitting the place up.
I think it will be close between Denver and SD for the division, but I give the edge to Fox over Norv. Fox has done more with less talent. Norv has had plenty of talent, but consistently fails.
Raiders have a lot of talent, but I think that Palmer and a rookie coach will hold them back a bit.
Dutch Gronk
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Doesn't that mean that I'm pro-meth or pro-anorexia since Josh clearly is either a meth addict or throwing up all his food.
So confusing.
Interesting. I thought you had something more concrete, reason being that Chip was making the NFL rounds during OTAs, spent some time with the Bills. Is he trying to get a better feel for what goes on behind the scenes in the NFL, he did flirt with Tampa, or is he helping NFL teams implement faster tempo/no huddle attacks, or both?
I really wonder what these guys show during camp, these reporters are shit, at least the Bills ones. I've only seen one guy mention no-huddle packages, which they were doing a lot of late last season. Most of these beat writers have no idea, they just report on the battles/who fucked up/who made a nice play etc.
I think you're not giving KC enough credit. Cassel sucks, yes. But you have 3 guys coming back from injury that help the team in Charles, Moeaki and Berry. Those guys can be game changers if fully healthy. I expect a 3 horse race in the west, with the Raiders at 0-16.
BlackGhost
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Dont think my friend, just act
That's funny. I've read articles about the Steelers practicing no-huddle with 21 personnel.
He did have that secret interview with TB that went public. Rams reached out and may or my not have interview him as well. Would have been a non-starter as they were always after Fisher.
I have zero doubt he wants to see if his stuff works in the NFL. But he'll need the right QB. Haven't seen enough of Geno Smith to know if he's a candidate.
It's coming. You want more reps in practice, speed up the attack and you'll have more reps. Obviously puts the D on its heals, harder to sub. I expect it to be the norm in the future.
Smith's an intriguing player. He looked awful at times in years past, awful at times last season, but looked very good at the tail end of the season. Read an interview with Holgorsen recently where he knocked east coast players, they don't get enough practice time in school, don't partake in 7 on 7 summer leagues, few passing drills, so he had more to teach when he got to West Virginia. Not sure if any of it applies to Smith, especially since he grew up in Florida where football is life,
Squall ASF
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I've seen you gush often enough about Alex but it's fine, I'm happy he's your starting QB. I hope it stays that way and you never get a real QB. The rest of your team is good enough to ensure you can't draft one so I suppose you're stuck choosing to believe he can be good. I'm not disagreeing with your other points, I'm just saying that looking at all factors, having a 90 QB rating doesn't mean he played particularly well at the position, he just didn't throw games away. I just don't believe he's a good player and I think seeing him have to take more throws this year will reveal that beyond a doubt. We shall see but I look forward to watching the Niners take a drop this year
While I concede you are the favorites at this point, I do not feel that the Niners are better by far, I would not be surprised if we beat you out for the division this year but I think it more likely a bit later when we actually know who the hell our starting QB is without a doubt. Might have one more topsy turvy season figuring that out for good, this is Kolb's last chance. That said, our D will be phenomenal and give us a chance to win despite who's behind center much like the Niners. We will be competitive.2 of the three are dependent on what Cassel does. Moeaki especially. If a team can either build up a lead, or stop the run Charles becomes less and less of a gamebreaker, due to the fact that Cassel will have to throw and make plays.
The problem in my eyes with KC, is that they do have a decent defense it really doesn't matter if your offense can't hang points. Let's say for the sake of argument that Rivers knocks out 2 TDs on KC, would you put your faith in Cassel to be able to strike back? I don't, even with Charles. As long as you can stop the run with some consistency and you have somewhat of secondary, KC isn't coming back. If you have a lead you can also bring the pass rush which Cassel does not do well with.
I might be way off, but mediocre teams with great QBs do better than talented teams with shitty QBs. It's still the blueprint imo.
Yeah, but from 21 personnel? 11, sure. 10, all the time. I'm guessing the Steelers will want David Johnson playing FB so he can at least line up at TE, but then you're in 12 personnel, another wonky no huddle situation. The no-huddle, smashmouth approach. That Haley is a genius!
FrenchMovieTheme
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I've seen you gush often enough about Alex but it's fine, I'm happy he's your starting QB. I hope it stays that way and you never get a real QB. The rest of your team is good enough to ensure you can't draft one so I suppose you're stuck choosing to believe he can be good. I'm not disagreeing with your other points, I'm just saying that looking at all factors, having a 90 QB rating doesn't mean he played particularly well at the position, he just didn't throw games away. I just don't believe he's a good player and I think seeing him have to take more throws this year will reveal that beyond a doubt. We shall see but I look forward to watching the Niners take a drop this year
ok, what indication am i supposed to use to tell me who is the best QB in the division? alex smith had the most wins, the most TD passes, the most yards, the best qb rating and the least amount of turnovers (with a minimum of 200 passes attempted). i mean what else am i supposed to base it on?
i realize people love a good bust, especially when he's on a division rival, but the bottom line is alex smith is the best qb in the division. now if he bombs this year then fine, but people are desperate to make excuses for his success when every other QB in the division HAS HAD NO SUCCESS!
and your D isn't phenomenal. i'm not sure where that's coming from. you were 17th or worse in every major statistical category on defense. BU BU BU BU BU BU BU BU BU BUT IT WAS A NEW DEFENSIVE SYSTEM AND WE ARE ONLY GOING TO GET BETTER! funny how you can make that argument for the cardinals defense if you choose but when the niners are working with a new offense there is no possibility it will get better.
i think the cards will be competitive. that is their problem though. they really aren't a good team but they're going to get a few wins here and there and finish with 6-8 wins, preventing them from getting any elite talent in the draft
Auburn does it, or did it with Cam. Guess it depends on how versatile your players are. If you have a good TE you can flex out and another good pass catching back, a Sproles for example, you can motion him out and be in a one back set easily.
A team like the Jets is vulnerable to this sort of thing, they love to get big and slow when they see 21, and sub quickly when they see an extra receiver, plus they have all those sub blitz packages. If you have the personnel (two versatile backs, good TE) you can catch them in that heavy d, motion guys around and gash them until they manage to sub or call a TO.
Possibilities really are endless if you have versatility.
Futurevoid
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http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55VT50squicken said:
BannedEpisode
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I'm ready!
True. But the Steelers don't have said versatility. Rainey isn't going to stay in and block. Johnson won't be running with the ball. I'm thinking more along the lines of what Wheeden and OSU were doing: running west coast no-huddle. But they were in 10 mostly. And fell in love with comeback routes...
Can I come over and watch some 3D porn?
:jncI'm ready!
Big Baybee
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FMT, you coming to New Orleans for the game?
Right, but they could use two RBs instead a FB, they're probably practicing with Johnson so all we can do is create what ifs at this point. Can always put Rainey in the slot, may be a better receiver than runner anyway.
Bills used Fred Jackson as an H-Back during the second half of the Raiders game. Spiller was the main back with Jackson lead blocking, they must have netted 60 yards on 3 plays. Didn't do it again the rest of the season however, but that was probably due to injuries.
DeaconKnowledge
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FrenchMovieTheme
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i wish! if my 3 buddies would agree to go i would go. that would be a really fun weekend. but i'm usually relegated to games in or near california
come back to los angeles, rams!
Very cool.
Very nice. I've owned a few Panny plasmas. I've always regretted not getting a Kuro way back when, but the higher end Panasonic's have been pretty darn good
DeaconKnowledge
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I often wonder why Panasonic never encountered the problems Sony did. Aside from gaming and movies they line up in a lot of their product line.
snesfreak wasn't working against them
yankeehater
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This really is it. Panasonic doesnt have a large group of fanboys who would never buy a product with their name on it.
DeaconKnowledge
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Are you seriously saying that Nintendo fanboys are the reason for Sony's downfall?
"Mission complete".