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NFL votes to move the St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles for the 2016 season

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Klotera

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Read this today. Really scummy of them. Kroenke really has no morals. They also tried to have new player contracts signed under Missouri law to avoid California labor laws, well after relocation was approved (the players association immediately called foul on this).

All the while, Kroenke has also been asking for public funding in the St. Louis area for other developments. You know, that city that isn't financially viable?
 

RBH

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The authority that operates O.co Coliseum has approved a new lease extension for the Oakland Raiders that more than triples the team's rent to use the stadium and its training facility in nearby Alameda.

The Oakland Tribune reported Friday that the team will now shell out $3.5 million in rent, up from the $925,000 it paid last season.


The Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Authority approved the agreement at a meeting Friday morning. It now heads to the Alameda County Board of Supervisors and Oakland City Council, which must approve the deal.

Coliseum Executive Director Scott McKibben says the rent hike accounts for increased costs for game-day security, among other factors, the newspaper reported.

"We're more or less trying to pass along some of these (costs) to the Raiders, which is not unlike any other NFL team," McKibben said, according to the Tribune. "I spent a lot of time visiting with a lot of other NFL teams and this has been customary throughout the league. And quite honestly at the end of the day the Raiders were very cooperative with us on that."

Authority officials say the extension, which includes options to play in Oakland for two additional seasons, opens the door for a long-term stadium plan in Oakland.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15068016/oakland-raiders-paying-much-more-stay-put-oco-coliseum
 

RBH

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http://www.lgclawoffice.com/charger...ing-could-affect-voter-approval-requirements/

TL, DR :

Chargers can avoid the 2/3 vote requirement by getting the vote on the ballot via an initiative, not by doing of the local government.

This is a recent development, made possible by a recent ruling by the state of CA earlier this month.

This article is well written, fact checked, and stems from a legitimate law firm. It is a breath of fresh air from the typical "bolts from the blue" or "union tribune" trash we are accustomed to basing our opinions off.

This is great news. If this article holds true, then a majority vote will get us a new stadium.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Chargers/comments/4bxvx1/chargers_stadium_effort_new_ruling_could_affect/
 

foxuzamaki

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I really wish this thread would stay off the main page. Painful as fuck. Fuck you Stan. I have attended in excess of 100 Rams games in St. Louis with my son and family. Fucking. Hurts. There. Got it out. Now to never click this link again.

Fuck stan
 

RBH

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As the Chargers move forward with their efforts to remain in San Diego, the team has pulled the sheet off the legal process that will be used to position the effort for an up-or-down vote of the electorate.

A “Citizens’ Initiative” has been finalized. If successful, the team will have the green light for a new stadium in San Diego.

“We are excited to report that our Citizens’ Initiative has been finalized,” Chargers chairman Dean Spanos said in a team-issued release. “We believe this is a great opportunity for the community to come together and create something special: an iconic, modern multi-purpose venue while also supporting and expanding our tourism and convention industries.”

The ballot box opens on November 8 (the same day as the presidential election), if the Chargers can gather 66,447 signatures through a petition drive by the middle of June.

The city’s contribution of $350 million toward the $1 billion proposed stadium would come from a hotel tax, and the effort to gather signatures for the petition can begin three weeks after publication of the Citizens’ Initiative in the local newspaper.

The real question is whether the effort requires a majority vote or a supermajority of two thirds of the ballots cast.

“There is a brand new California Court of Appeal decision that will help determine the answer to these questions,” the team explains in a question-and-answer session regarding various issues, including the 2/3 majority. “That decision is now being carefully evaluated by the San Diego City Attorney along with lawyers all across California. In the meantime, our goal is to win the support of as many voters as possible.”
-ProFootballTalk
 

RBH

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Chargers officials believe they can build a new football stadium in downtown San Diego to replace aging Qualcomm Stadium by 2022, according to a report by ABC 10 News in San Diego.

The stadium would be municipally owned by a new Joint Powers Authority, which would be created to run the stadium and all non-football entertainment events, including concerts, the report said.

ABC 10 News, citing a source with knowledge of the team's plans, said the proposed 65,000-seat downtown stadium would call for the Chargers to apply $650 million in private funding toward the new venue, which would include a $300 million contribution from the NFL.

The team's proposal to build a football stadium downtown with an expanded bayfront convention center would clash with mayor Kevin Faulconer and San Diego County Supervisor Ron Roberts, who back a stadium in Mission Valley, site of the Chargers' current home.

The Chargers previously said the downtown venue would "create an unparalleled entertainment and sports district" to host Super Bowls and provide a home for Comic-Con, the annual entertainment and comic extravaganza that has outgrown the convention center.


The Chargers said they plan to seek voter approval in November for the downtown stadium and convention center expansion, which would be financed partly by an increase in hotel room taxes from 12.5 percent to 16.5 percent -- among the highest on the West Coast.

The team needs 66,447 signatures from registered voters by mid-June to place the initiative on the Nov. 8 ballot.

Faulconer and Roberts said their competing plan to build a new stadium on the city-owned Mission Valley site could be done faster and without raising taxes.


"After more than a decade, the Chargers are putting forward a plan of their own and San Diegans may finally have the ultimate say on a new stadium in November," Faulconer said in a statement. "The convention center element makes this proposal more than a stadium and the long term future of San Diego's tourism economy is now intertwined in this plan. As always, my top priorities are to protect jobs, protect taxpayers and do what's right for all San Diegans. I will evaluate the proposal's details through that lens."

Earlier this year, Comic-Con expressed doubts about the Chargers' plan to build a non-contiguous expansion as part of a stadium deal.

April Boling, a board member of the San Diego County Taxpayers Association, said in a statement that the Chargers' proposal "is not a good deal for San Diegans. It is only a good deal for the Chargers and the team's development partner, which wants to build a hotel on property it owns next to the new facility."

Backers of the downtown plan say the hotel tax increase would require approval of a majority of voters, but Faulconer and Roberts said it was "abundantly clear" it would need two-thirds' approval.

If the ballot measure for a new stadium fails, the Chargers could join the Los Angeles Rams in a stadium in Inglewood scheduled to open in 2019.


In January, NFL owners rejected the Chargers' proposal to move with division rival Oakland Raiders to a new stadium in the Los Angeles suburb of Carson but gave the Chargers a one-year option to join the Rams in Inglewood.

Although the Chargers agreed in principle to join the Rams, Chargers chairman Dean Spanos said after the setback that the team would remain in San Diego at least through 2016 in an attempt to get a new stadium. The NFL will give the Chargers and Raiders each an extra $100 million to go toward new stadiums in their home markets. That's on top of a $200 million loan available to each team.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15095391/chargers-believe-new-downtown-stadium-san-diego-open-22
 

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Now that the Rams have returned to Los Angeles, leaving the city of St. Louis with an empty stadium and $144 million of debt, residents of the Gateway to the West probably aren't in the mood to hear about their city's inferiority. That, however, didn't stop an LA-based retailer from putting up a new billboard in Hollywood that's been drawing scorn from social media users for most of the day.

The advertisement, paid for by Popular Demand, simply reads: "Los Angeles>St. Louis," followed by "Welcome to LA, guys."

CEO Blake Ricciardi said that he was proud of the strong reaction the ad has provoked, and that he was sticking by the statement. "Our message was simple," he said. "We felt that the Rams made a great choice to move their team here. This is the best city in the world. It wasn’t a joke at all."
http://la.curbed.com/2016/3/28/11321082/los-angeles-rams-billboard
 

RBH

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The Rams, who received 56,000 season-ticket deposits for their first year back in Los Angeles, are planning to offer eight tiers of tickets, with nine-game packages ranging from $360 to $2,025 for the fall of this year.

The club is scheduled to roll out the pricing plan in an email Thursday that will be sent to the people who made a $100 deposit in hopes of purchasing season tickets for 2016.


The Rams will play at the Coliseum for three seasons while their $2.6-billion stadium is being built in Inglewood. During the next three years, the team will play seven regular-season games at home, as opposed to eight, because the franchise has agreed to play three international games in consecutive years, beginning with a London game in October. Additionally, the packages include tickets for two exhibition games.

Jake Bye, Rams vice president, said the season-ticket pricing is significantly lower than what single-game pricing will be. Those prices will be released this summer.

“We wanted to make Rams football accessible to as many people as we could, so the pricing we’re going with is extremely reasonable when compared to what people might have expected,” Bye said.

Season-ticket packages in St. Louis ranged from $300 to $3,500 in 2015.

Ticket prices are expected to rise dramatically when the Inglewood stadium opens for the 2019 season, and those will include the cost of personal-seat licenses.

The Coliseum seating capacity for Rams games will be about 80,000. The seats at the peristyle end of the stadium will not be used because of the inferior proximity to the field and view.

The pricing tiers for the ticket packages, per seat, are $2,025 (for eight midfield sections behind the Rams’ bench), $1,575, $1,350, $1,080, $810, $675, $585, and $360.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sn-rams-ticket-pricing-plan-20160331-story.html
 

Herbs

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If it's not per game, that's doable. I might even indulge in non shit seats. I'm ditching my Clippers season tix next year so have some extra cash.

yeah, the prices are reasonable but not knowing what the new stadium prices will be is kind of shitty.
 

RBH

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After more than a decade of going in circles, Oakland A’s managing partner Lew Wolff is taking a back seat in the drive to get the team a new stadium and handing the job over to largely “silent” majority owner John Fisher.

“John is spending a little more time looking at the alternatives on the venue,” Wolff told us. “Having some fresh eyes relooking at Oakland is a good thing.”

Fisher appears interested in a ballpark closer to the downtown. But Mayor Libby Schaaf’s push for a new ballpark at Howard Terminal north of Jack London Square looks like a dead end from the team’s perspective because of poor BART and freeway access.

The team is still exploring a site at Laney College, which is within walking distance of the Lake Merritt BART station — but that would mean buying the land from the community college district.

The other option, of course, is staying at the Coliseum site.


Team spokesman Ken Pries said Fisher “is not willing to make statement or do an interview at this time.”

With Major League Baseball breathing down their necks to try and get something done, the A’s are hoping to make a decision within the year.

As for the 80-year-old Wolff, he isn’t saying how long he intends to stay on as “managing partner” — but he is emphatic that he has no intention of selling his minority stake in the team.
http://blog.sfgate.com/matierandros...of-as-takes-over-stadium-hunt-from-lew-wolff/



Maybe there will finally be some progress in regards to both the A's and Raiders situation.
 

RBH

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The Titans have agreed to trade the No.1 pick of the NFL draft to the Los Angeles Rams for the 15th overall pick in this year’s draft, two second-round picks (43 and 45), and a third-rounder (76) in 2016. The Titans will also receive the Rams’ first-round pick in 2017, along with their third-round pick in next year’s draft.

In addition to Tennessee’s No.1 pick this year, the Rams will also receive a fourth-round pick (113) and sixth-round pick (177) in 2016.

As a result of the trade, the Titans now have six picks in the top 76 in this year’s draft – 15, 33, 43, 45, 64 and 76. The Titans already held picks 33 and 64.
http://www.titansonline.com/news/ar...rom-Rams/b958c020-d4f6-4bbb-ab97-2747e1599854
 
Glad I'm not a Rams fan anymore after seeing this garbage. I guess since they majorly whiffed after the rg3 pick trade, why not go the opposite direction. They really must love one of these qbs. Setting themselves up for another 3-5 years of mediocrity.
 

Shiv47

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It doesn't matter one way or the other what happens with this. Kroenke just wants the fan base energized enough in the short term so he can make maximum bank until his stadium is built. He doesn't give a shit about winning.
 

Rbk_3

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Sheffter reported we are leaning towards Goff.

This is Fisher and Sneads last gasp that will set up back 5 years.
 
Well, unless you're the Broncos you need a quarterback to win.

Did the Rams get fleeced? It's hard to say. If you get the next Andrew Luck then job well done. If you get the next RGIII that'll take years to recover from.
 

diffusionx

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I feel like they had to do something like this, they need a franchise QB to get people excited.

Tough to get a new fanbase excited by a Jeff Fisher coached team that goes 8-8 into perpetuity.
 

Rbk_3

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I feel like they had to do something like this, they need a franchise QB to get people excited.

Tough to get a new fanbase excited by a Jeff Fisher coached team that goes 8-8 into perpetuity.

Except the Rams have never even made it to 8-8 under Fisher.
 

RBH

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Preliminary renderings unveiled this week by the San Diego Chargers for a new stadium downtown show a retractable roof and artificial turf field for the $1.8 billion project.

If approved by voters in November, Chargers stadium advisor Fred Maas said the earliest a stadium could get completed is 2021.


“If all the stars and the moon were aligned -- which I’ve rarely seen in San Diego -- but if they were, I would like to think that we could be playing in the 2021-22 season,” Maas said.

Manica architecture is serving as the team’s architectural firm for the project.

According to Mass, there was a lot of back and forth in the organization on whether the new stadium would have a grass field, like Qualcomm Stadium, or a more practical synthetic turf field.

“It’s been an internal debate here, as you can imagine,” Maas said. “Obviously, the football folks want a grass field. We have some of our fans and sponsors that want an open-air stadium. It’s San Diego, remember. But you have to make concessions to make this work.

“We think we’ve kind of reached a really fair compromise of the design elements to really accomplish a facility that is more than just 10 days a year.”

Maas said the team looked at other alternatives, including a movable grass field like University of Phoenix Stadium uses for the Arizona Cardinals, but there’s not enough room to make the mechanics work.

So, as it stands now, tentatively the stadium will have a turf field. Maas said the main issue is covering the field for convention use without destroying the grass.

Chargers general manager Tom Telesco said he had no problem with his players performing on fake grass.

“I don’t think I should be picky or choosy with it, No. 1,” Telesco said. “No. 2, I kind of know where I stand in the pecking order. If they say we will play on FieldTurf, then it’s FieldTurf. If they say grass, it’s grass.”

In terms of the stadium room design, Maas said the Chargers’ stadium will more closely resemble the configuration of Dallas Cowboys’ facility, AT&T Stadium, which also has a retractable roof.

The roof at the Chargers' stadium will be made of the same material used for the Minnesota Vikings new facility, U.S. Bank Stadium.

The Vikings used ethylene-tetraflouroethylene, or ETFE – a plastic-like material that is transparent but can be treated to be translucent, is extremely light weight, very durable and resistant to corrosion.

Maas said because of the tight footprint, the stadium will be much more intimate than Qualcomm Stadium, with fans right on the field. Maas said the stadium can expand to 75,000 for Super Bowls, but also could serve as an intimate setting for San Diego State football games or a Major League Soccer franchise, similar to the way CenturyLink Field is used for the Seattle Sounders.

Stadium design accommodates 100,000 square feet of open exhibit space with a 200-foot ceiling, so the stadium could host boat shows and other events the current convention center space could not host, Maas said.

Maas believes it’s not unreasonable to assume the new facility could host 200 to 250 non-football days a year, and it’s one of the reasons the Chargers decided to put a retractable roof on the preliminary renderings for the project
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http://espn.go.com/blog/san-diego-c...ll-have-retractable-roof-synthetic-turf-field


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RBH

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The Oakland Raiders are on the verge of selling out their season tickets for the first time in franchise history, owner Mark Davis said Sunday afternoon.

"We're excited as hell," Davis told ESPN.com. "Again, we've got the greatest fans in the world. The Raider Nation is strong."

The Raiders have signed a one-year lease to remain at the Oakland Alameda Coliseum for the 2016 season and have two one-year options for 2017 and 2018, though the team recently saw its rent triple before the 50-year-old dual-use stadium lost its naming rights from O.co.

Plus, Davis has toured Las Vegas as a potential new home for the franchise, after the Raiders finished third in a three-team race to relocate to the Los Angeles suburb of Carson along with the San Diego Chargers.

The Raiders could still join the Los Angeles Rams in their Inglewood home, should the Chargers decide to remain in San Diego, but momentum is growing in Las Vegas, and Davis is reportedly scheduled to attend a meeting of the Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee on Thursday. Davis would not comment on that possibility.


Back in Oakland, excitement is growing for a team that improved to seven wins from three a year ago. The team has a nucleus of young players, such as quarterback Derek Carr, All-Pro outside linebacker/defensive end Khalil Mack and receiver Amari Cooper, recent free-agent signees offensive lineman Kelechi Osemele, outside linebacker Bruce Irvin, cornerback Sean Smith and free safety Reggie Nelson, and re-signed outside linebacker Aldon Smith.

As a result, the Raiders, who spent the 1982 through 1994 seasons in L.A., are in line to have a waiting list for season tickets for the first time in franchise history.

The team has grown its season ticket fan base from 30,000 in 2013 to 37,000 in 2014 to 42,200 last year to just under 50,000 so far this offseason, per Raiders president Marc Badain. That's an increase of nearly 67 percent.

The Coliseum has a capacity of nearly 53,250.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...t-season-ticket-sellout-owner-mark-davis-says
 

RBH

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The Oakland Raiders' potential move to Las Vegas has been a hot topic this week, with a report that owner Mark Davis is willing to move the team if he can get a stadium built near the strip.

However, there remains one big obstacle to any plans for relocation: league approval.

The NFL blocked the Raiders from moving back to LA last year and has said it would like them to remain in Oakland, while the team continues to explore other markets.


Roger Goodell joined Colin Cowherd on "The Herd" on Wednesday and reiterated his support for keeping the Raiders in Oakland, while addressing the question of whether the NFL is ready to have a team in Vegas.

"We don't have a proposal," Goodell said. "Ultimately that is a decision of the ownership. There are owners who will feel very strongly about continuing to support our position on gambling, there will be owners that will have the view of whether that's the best market for us to be in, whether there's truly the fan support there, they'll look at obviously the stadium alternatives, and I think that's what you do in any relocation."
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-roger-goodell-042716
 
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