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NFL Week 10 |OT| Wish You Were Here

LJ11

Member
He used to. Then all the good defensive players retired or were traded. He's left with Vince Wilfork and a secondary that consists of swiss cheese, a failed cornerback turned safety, and some other practice squad quality players.

In all seriousness, I have to think it's the coaching at this point, they have the talent to be a middle of the pack defense, and indeed they're allowing points in that range, but man are they frustrating to watch.

I don't think it's the coaching, it's personnel.

Lets look at the linebackers, the only LB with any sort of range in coverage is Mayo. They go out this year and draft, what in my mind, is a two down backer. Spikes can't cover at all, good in the run game, can be an effective blitzer, good at headhunting. Bottom line, LB core is built to play in the 90's.

Days of the big physical linebackers are over, you need speed and guys who can cover, forget about size. Just a bad matchup against Gailey's offense, and he doesn't even have that many weapons on O outside of OL/Steve/Spiller/Fred.

A legit spread and shred offense, with multiple receiving threats and QB, will rip most NFL defenses apart. Guess it's why you see all the Chip Kelly talk. Don't even need the option, most of these LBs can't play in space. Most safeties are shit at scraping and filling, league is bereft of safety talent.
 

K-19

Banned
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I am sure it comes from a porn video.
 

Dragon

Banned
Bears signing josh mccown. Season is officially over. Go fuck yourself packers. Pieces of shit. Yaw too texans you lucky cock suckers.

Yeah the Texans are lucky that Jay Cutler is a ball-less coward who stunk before he got concussed. You're right!

I don't think it's the coaching, it's personnel.

Lets look at the linebackers, the only LB with any sort of range in coverage is Mayo. They go out this year and draft, what in my mind, is a two down backer. Spikes can't cover at all, good in the run game, can be an effective blitzer, good at headhunting. Bottom line, LB core is built to play in the 90's.

Days of the big physical linebackers are over, you need speed and guys who can cover, forget about size. Just a bad matchup against Gailey's offense, and he doesn't even have that many weapons on O outside of OL/Steve/Spiller/Fred.

A legit spread and shred offense, with multiple receiving threats and QB, will rip most NFL defenses apart. Guess it's why you see all the Chip Kelly talk. Don't even need the option, most of these LBs can't play in space. Most safeties are shit at scraping and filling, league is bereft of safety talent.

They definitely have one of the bigger LB cores in the league. Belichick in the past always stopped the run first and then would have opportunitistic corners who could actually make plays on the ball like Samuel and Law and they simply don't have that anymore. So when teams are forced to pass (and the Bills weren't even forced to do that on Sunday) they just carve up the Pats. Their safeties are terrible though, you're right. It's pretty disheartening, although they proved last year you can win despite having a shitty defense now.
 
He used to. Then all the good defensive players retired or were traded. He's left with Vince Wilfork and a secondary that consists of swiss cheese, a failed cornerback turned safety, and some other practice squad quality players.

In all seriousness, I have to think it's the coaching at this point, they have the talent to be a middle of the pack defense, and indeed they're allowing points in that range, but man are they frustrating to watch.



All went downhill when we lost him in the Cassell trade, plus I want Seymour back, damn Raidahs.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
Bears signing josh mccown. Season is officially over. Go fuck yourself packers. Pieces of shit. Yaw too texans you lucky cock suckers.

Bears tears lol

lucky? did you not see what happened to our team last season
 

eznark

Banned
Yeah the Texans are lucky that Jay Cutler is a ball-less coward who stunk before he got concussed. You're right!

By the end of the year Bears fans will have convinced themselves that the Cutler led offense was basically last years Saints.
 

Dragon

Banned
Do you believe cutler wasn't our best chance at winning?

Based on how he performed yesterday? No. Your best chance of winning was to run Forte three times on every possession and hope your defense could turn over the Texans and get a short field. And even when they did that, they still couldn't punch it in.
 

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
By the end of the year Bears fans will have convinced themselves that the Cutler led offense was basically last years Saints.

It's amazing how delusional everyone is about Cutler.

Look at this stats, compare him to other quarterbacks, and then tell me what about Cutler makes people believe he's a winner? One good season in Denver? Derek Anderson had one good season too!
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
CAR fired its ST coach? I wonder if Kubiak know he's allowed to do that

Kubes is too loyal. Look how bad it had to get for us to get Wade.

Cutler was hot shit like Schaub last night, but ari makes it out like he was gonna all the sudden become Manning against the Texans D the rest of the game.
 

ari

Banned
Based on how he performed yesterday? No. Your best chance of winning was to run Forte three times on every possession and hope your defense could turn over the Texans and get a short field. And even when they did that, they still couldn't punch it in.
With so many opportunities in the second half i find it hard to believe that cutler wouldnt make some plays with the texans only having 40+ yards in the entire 3rd and 4th quarter.

Im not in lala land here folks. Cutler is better then cambell.
 
It's amazing how delusional everyone is about Cutler.

Look at this stats, compare him to other quarterbacks, and then tell me what about Cutler makes people believe he's a winner? One good season in Denver? Derek Anderson had one good season too!

Delusion is what people do when they desperately want to believe something is true.

Bears fans think Cutler is good, Lions fans think they have a good defense, Packers fans think their run game is anything beyond D-2 NCAA level, and Patriots fans think Brady is male.

It's tragic, really.
 

eznark

Banned
Delusion is what people do when they desperately want to believe something is true.

Bears fans think Cutler is good, Lions fans think they have a good defense, Packers fans think their run game is anything beyond D-2 NCAA level, and Patriots fans think Brady is male.

It's tragic, really.

Jesus, you talk to some really retarded Packers fans. Time to leave Michigan.
 

Dragon

Banned
Delusion is what people do when they desperately want to believe something is true.

Bears fans think Cutler is good, Lions fans think they have a good defense, Packers fans think their run game is anything beyond D-2 NCAA level, and Patriots fans think Brady is male.

It's tragic, really.

Go make another OT for a trailer for a vidya game! :(
 
With so many opportunities in the second half i find it hard to believe that cutler wouldnt make some plays with the texans only having 40+ yards in the entire 3rd and 4th quarter.

Im not in lala land here folks. Cutler is better then cambell.

or he could have continued playing like shit and turned the ball over some more... there is always that
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
It's not delusion about Cutler. The truth is that the Bears O-Line is horrendous, the receiving core, outside of Marshall, can't even catch the ball. Cutler is the best chance this team has. He helps mask just how bad this offense is, and his stats would be much better on a more decent team. As we learned last year, this team can't win or even score without him. It's not to say that he's amazing, he's just the best chance they've got.
 

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
Let's put it this way, this season Alex Smith is a vastly better QB than Jay Cutler.

Josh Freeman is vastly superior to Jay Cutler.

Tony Romo and all his Romo'ing is superior to Cutler.

Fitzpatrick and Sam Bradford are better than Cutler.

This season statistically, Cutler has far more in common with Mark Sanchez than Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Manning.
 

Godslay

Banned
It's amazing how delusional everyone is about Cutler.

Look at this stats, compare him to other quarterbacks, and then tell me what about Cutler makes people believe he's a winner? One good season in Denver? Derek Anderson had one good season too!

The main reason he sucks is inconsistency. He'll have a great game, followed by mediocre games, mixed in with some shit games. In my opinion you never really know what you are going to get with him.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
or he could have continued playing like shit and turned the ball over some more... there is always that

nah it was all a fluke in the first half, dude was ready to light up the Texans.

Cutler feasts on great D's!
 

eznark

Banned
It's not delusion about Cutler. The truth is that the Bears O-Line is horrendous, the receiving core, outside of Marshall, can't even catch the ball. Cutler is the best chance this team has. He helps mask just how bad this offense is, and his stats would be much better on a more decent team. As we learned last year, this team can't win or even score without him. It's not to say that he's amazing, he's just the best chance they've got.

Isn't Marshall in the top 5 for receiver drops this year?
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Let's put it this way, this season Alex Smith is a vastly better QB than Jay Cutler.

Josh Freeman is vastly superior to Jay Cutler.

Tony Romo and all his Romo'ing is superior to Cutler.

Fitzpatrick and Sam Bradford are better than Cutler.

This season statistically, Cutler has far more in common with Mark Sanchez than Rodgers/Brady/Brees/Manning.

hahaha no.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Isn't Marshall in the top 5 for receiver drops this year?
Yes, but he can still catch the ball occasionally. I wouldn't be surprised if the other guys don't even have hands.

I'm amazed that Cutler even has the stats that he does, considering what he has to work with. We learned last year, this team goes nowhere without him.
 

ari

Banned
Not one time ever did i say cutler is having a spectacular season...ever. dude is the bears game manager and he is better at it then cambell.
 

eznark

Banned
Yes, but he can still catch the ball occasionally. I wouldn't be surprised if the other guys don't even have hands.

I'm amazed that Cutler even has the stats that he does, considering what he has to work with. We learned last year, this team goes nowhere without him.

We are 90 games into Cutlers career. Maybe it's time to stop blaming his line, his receivers, his running backs, his head coach, his defense, his tight ends and his offensive coordinator?
 

darkside31337

Tomodachi wa Mahou
Isn't Marshall in the top 5 for receiver drops this year?

He doesn't even have half as many drops as Jordy Nelson.

His catch rate is fine, he's been a top 10 WR on a team thats almost completely devoid of talent on the offensive side of the ball. Their other WRs are scrubs and they have the worst TEs I've ever seen.
 

Talon

Member
Also :jnc at the Falcons. They go from being the worst undefeated team at this point in an NFL season in history to the worst 8-1 team in history.
It must be sad to get more joy from rooting against other teams than rooting for your own team. :*(
We are 90 games into Cutlers career. Maybe it's time to stop blaming his line, his receivers, his running backs, his head coach, his defense, his tight ends and his offensive coordinator?
C'mon, guys. It's the diabeetus.
 

Matrix

LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world he’d rather have. The problem is, Dwyane’s not a woman.
I'm amazed that Cutler even has the stats that he does, considering what he has to work with. We learned last year, this team goes nowhere without him.

Which is beyond pathetic since the Texans went the furthest they ever had with a rookie QB last season.

The fact your team goes nowhere without him says a lot about how crappy your team really is. Cutler having to be a savior of all things smh


"Not one time ever did i say cutler is having a spectacular season...ever. dude is the bears game manager and he is better at it then cambell."

You need a Yates!
 

Goro Majima

Kitty Genovese Member
hahaha no.

Go look at the stats!

Fitzpatrick is outplaying Cutler in every category except YPA.

Checkdown Bradford has a higher YPA than Cutler, completes more passes, more yards, and has a higher passer rating.

The stats don't lie, this season Cutler is not even in his usual middle of the pack, he's in the bottom third of QBs.
 

SoulPlaya

more money than God
Which is beyond pathetic since the Texans went the furthest they ever had with a rookie QB last season.

The fact your team goes nowhere without him says a lot about how crappy your team really is. Cutler having to be a savior of all things smh
Yeah, I know.
 
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