Most teams aren't as idiotically blatant about it.
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Most teams aren't as idiotically blatant about it.
DeaconKnowledge
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Sad but true. When both commentators on Sunday Night Football are chuckling about it openly, the league has to do something.
Anton Sugar
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I thought these were tracked somewhere...PFF?
FrenchMovieTheme
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Lol fucking cheating steelers. Their season is * now no matter what they do
Pretty much.
How about they crack down on flopping next. Victor Cruz getting cracked in the shoulder, and dropping to the ground like he had brain damage last week is an excellent candidate.
Yes, and after that incident the league issued the warning. NFL rules aren't retroactive.
It was against the league's rules before the warning, the example should have been made at that particular time. It's not like the league hasn't singled us out before. Goodell amending the wording of the player conduct rules so he can suspend Roethlisberger despite the fact that he was never charged with a crime. The league fining James Harrison for hits, and subsequently changing the rules mid season after legal hits by Harrison and Hines Ward. And now this.
You have my favorite persecution complex on this board by far.
Are you STILL bitching about this? It was a huge hit and he got the wind knocked out of him, there was never any indication that he had a head injury and the Giants never reported it as such. Cruz had bruised ribs. It was a shitty call for sure and the refs screwed it up, but you've been acting like someone fucked your girlfriend.
I've played football, and I've had the wind knocked out of me under a number of occasions. You don't lay on the floor lifeless when you have the wind knocked out of you, you squirm on the floor struggling to breath, it's a necessary bodily reaction. Seriously, watch the play again (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVv8yqkt6pw) and point to me the signs of injured ribs and the air being knocked out of him. There are none.
Not PFF, maybe Football Outsiders? I'm not a subscriber there and don't see anything about it in the free area. btw, here's a piece on saw on why the Colts are frauds. Usual stuff. Negative points diff, winning close games, bad offense and defense, easy schedule, brutal upcoming schedule
http://sportskeptic.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/the-colts-are-an-illusion/
Wrap it up, harSon is infallible
How about you levy an actual argument instead of being an overly confrontational jerk to me every chance you get.
Yeah, use an actual argument like "I played football."
DeaconKnowledge
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It was an act. Cruz got up easily and jogged off to the sideline pain free.
That said, he did it in an attempt to get an advantage and succeeded. Can't blame him for trying, especially when it works.
Or possibly the common human experience of having the wind knocked out of you, the tidbit that both you and he ignore, and something that you can't refute because it's 100% factual. Nobody gets the wind knocked out of them by dropping to the ground, completely still and lifeless, seemingly not even trying to breath. Same goes for rib injuries.
^ everyone reacts to injuries identically. Ok, harson.
I've had the wind knocked out of me as well and while I definitely writhed on one occasion (hockey I think) I also tried to stay as still as possible on one occasion and figure out why they fuck it felt like my throat had been crushed (that one was football). People are different, have different pain tolerances, and react differently to injuries. The fact that it happened to you doesn't make it the only way an individual could possibly ever react.
Also, who gives a shit? The flag was thrown as a result of the hit, not as a result of him laying there.
I've had the wind knocked out of me as well and while I definitely writhed on one occasion (hockey I think) I also tried to stay as still as possible on one occasion and figure out why they fuck it felt like my throat had been crushed (that one was football). People are different, have different pain tolerances, and react differently to injuries. The fact that it happened to you doesn't make it the only way an individual could possibly ever react.
Also, who gives a shit? The flag was thrown as a result of the hit, not as a result of him laying there.
Flags are also picked up, unless the refs initial assumptions are reinforced by someone lying on the ground like they've just received trauma to the head.
I really think us armchair folks forget how much it fucking hurts to have a grown man tackle you. I'm a fucking pansy when someone gets near my ankles even when playing basketball.
Yes, this is true. That is how interceptions tend to happen.
If you're saying that a QB throws interceptions when under pressure.
Yes, this is true. That is how interceptions tend to happen.
Hey guys,
I have Sidney Rice on my FF team. I also just picked up Golden Tate this morning off FA as he was available and I need some insurance bench WR.
Seeing as Sidney Rice will be matched on Cromartie and Tate on K. Wilson more than likely do you think I should start Tate?
Or should I throw both guys out there this week.
WRs I have:
Jordy Nelson is on Bye for me.
Dez Bryant is a roller coaster and still has hip issues
Brandon Lloyd I have starting.
A. Roberts is on Bye this week
Thanks!
I have Sidney Rice on my FF team. I also just picked up Golden Tate this morning off FA as he was available and I need some insurance bench WR.
Seeing as Sidney Rice will be matched on Cromartie and Tate on K. Wilson more than likely do you think I should start Tate?
Or should I throw both guys out there this week.
WRs I have:
Jordy Nelson is on Bye for me.
Dez Bryant is a roller coaster and still has hip issues
Brandon Lloyd I have starting.
A. Roberts is on Bye this week
Thanks!
DeaconKnowledge
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I'm sorry, but I think it's really fucking stupid to bother complaining about these individual incidents like this. All 32 teams pander to refs for calls and all 32 have succeeded at some point or another. It happens. It's not a conspiracy against your team.
It's their M.O. Has been forever.
I'm sorry, but everyone's body reacts similarly to this type of stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti4XJXSwXDc
It's a natural reaction for the body to go into anxiety at the seemingly sudden loss of breathing capabilities, as is attempting to position your body in ways to reignite normalized breathing.
I'm not even sure how you defend Cruz in this case outside of the fact that you're blinded by an agenda. I mean, it's not the end of the world to admit he was putting on a spectacle for the betterment of his team like DeaconKnowledge suggested. Similar to Sander's fake injury, I'll stomach his bullshit actions since it helped our team, but I'm not going to sit here and second guess the fact that he was bullshitting the league after it has happened.
Guy was hurt and sat out the next play, not sure why this is an issue? If he was faking, he was properly punished.
As far as head/neck trauma, I don't pretend to be a medical expert so I don't pretend that a 200 lb man running into another 200lb man and coming to a sudden stop has zero possibility of causing some level of head trauma.
I mean it's just two 200+ dudes in peak physical condition colliding at 20-ish mph. Obviously no one could get their bell rung.
hahahahaha, yeah, my pro Giants agenda is well known. Cruz was punished. What's the issue outside of your bizarre compulsion to feel put upon?
I posted this a few pages back, but there was guy from a Vegas book on ESPN's betting podcast, and since the real refs have been back, the favorites and public teams are covering at a crazy rate. He thinks it's due to a star system like the NBA had with Jordan as far as shitty officiating. Steelers fans just discovered their place on the hierarchy
BannedEpisode
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When I played varsity football I got trucked by a running back and I thought I was going to die for a moment.
Cruz got his shit rocked and reacted accordingly.
Cruz got his shit rocked and reacted accordingly.
Nah, in this case it's the League offices fault for over-emphasis of certain calls like defenseless receiver. I don't think it had anything to do with star fueled favoritism.
Futurevoid
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Ok:harSon said:
- You take your team getting fined far too personally. I'd have thought the fines were coming out of your bank account from reading your posts.
- I've read more whining from you in the last two threads about that Cruz hit and bad PI call than most of the Republican talking heads going on about Obama being reelected.
I generally don't comment on this stuff but it's really rather impressive how truly outraged you are about a few bad calls in a game the Steelers won and won handily had it not been for those calls.
I would dare say that most of the Packers fans in this thread weren't as whiny as you are right now when they got fucked against Seattle and that cost them an actual game!
Sanity.DeaconKnowledge said:
Eznark was too busy schilling for the scabs!
I for one applaud harSon.
It's obvious you fools fail to realize that the Illuminati in conjunction with the reverse vampires are out to fuck over the Steelers.
I mean really why would Big Ben be accused of rape. Does this look like a potential rapist to you?
It's obvious you fools fail to realize that the Illuminati in conjunction with the reverse vampires are out to fuck over the Steelers.
I mean really why would Big Ben be accused of rape. Does this look like a potential rapist to you?
Yeah I feel really bad about that. There hasn't been a complaint since the Real Refs came back, I was blind.
Not saying you should feel bad about it. Just saying you were busy. Had your hands full.
He made a really nice tackle last night too.
T.M. MacReady
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The fact that the Steelers won that game in spite of the Giants getting 14 free points makes the Steelers seem a lot scarier than they were a few weeks ago when they looked like shit. They tend to peak at the right time.
Anton Sugar
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I don't think many people are comparing the Colts to playoff bound teams or saying they're a great team. Luck does not deserve to be smelling a whiff of an MVP fart.
Luck's gonna be awesome--we've already tripled wins from last year--but the team is not good.
DeaconKnowledge
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I think that's bullshit frankly. The NFL does have a star system but it overwhelmingly favors the offense over defense, not star players.
When the real refs came back they were content to let the guys play, but it's slowly regressed back to normal (normal being favoring the offense of course).
And they handed you a Super Bowl against the Seahwaks. Fair trade.
They're gonna unleash hell in December!
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DeaconKnowledge
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Shut uuuup
I don't care that the Steelers were fined, Sanders and the team deserved it for the bullshit that they pulled. I'm just saying that faking injuries have been illegal for a while now, and the league should have made an example of the team that prompted them to issue a warning in the first place.
I wasn't the only one complaining about the bad calls, but like always, my posts are handpicked out of a flood of like minded posts and put on a pedestal for sentiments held by dozens of other posters. It's not like I was misguided in my disgust, considering Sports media wasn't exactly mute in its coverage of the calls.
I don't understand the notion that one shouldn't be outraged in bad calls that didn't cost a team the game. A bad call is a bad call, and I'm going to call it as such regardless of the outcome of the game.
And I'm opinionated, vocal and loud. I type out everything that I think, and leave very little to the delete key. Get over it.
Dutch Gronk
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I love it when somebody plays music and I'm not sure if the music player is half broken or that it is part of the song.
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