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NFL Week 16 |OT| The Comeback is Bigger than the Win

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TheDrizzlerJ11

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Jake Tower said:
Instead of unreliable human eyes looking at replay for ball spot challenges, how about putting some kind of 'gps' in the football that can be checked to show exactly where it was at any moment?
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
FrenchMovieTheme said:
Definitely. I'm terrified of wussle. He went 12/28 for like 140 yards, including a spine chilling 4 yards in the 2nd half before harbs declined a safety. You can't give wussle the ball!
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Seattle will take it for the sole fact they're at home. No team in the NFL has a better home advantage. Even then it should be a close, great game.

When Seattle was at Ford Field this year Stafford lit them up with something like 350 yards and 3 TDs.
 
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Link

The Autumn Wind
Jake Tower said:
Instead of unreliable human eyes looking at replay for ball spot challenges, how about putting some kind of 'gps' in the football that can be checked to show exactly where it was at any moment?
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I've always wondered with all the technology we have, why first downs are still measured by a couple of guys with a chain.
 
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Wes

venison crêpe
squicken said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...en-rule-the-board-as-the-big-bowl-games-await

Rob Rang has a draft board out. No teams assigned but a nice little wite up on the prospects. Earliest QB is Geno at #12. Joeckel #1
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From what I've followed most of the year there are about 10 top talents in this draft before the quality takes a bit of a drop. 8 of those are on defence. Good year to be looking for a pass rusher. I think the CB Milliner will go top 10.

His latest mock is here by the way.
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
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FrenchMovieTheme

Member
Kastrioti said:
Seattle will take it for the sole fact they're at home. No team in the NFL has a better home advantage. Even then it should be a close, great game.

When Seattle was at Ford Field this year Stafford lit them up with something like 350 yards and 3 TDs.
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you're right. it's not like we won in seattle in this very same scenario last year to wrap up the #2 seed. how can the niners possibly win there?
 
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OriginofHysteria

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Wes said:
From what I've followed most of the year there are about 10 top talents in this draft before the quality takes a bit of a drop. 8 of those are on defence. Good year to be looking for a pass rusher. I think the CB Milliner will go top 10.

His latest mock is here by the way.
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I would like to have Milliner on the team if we were to trade Revis, have him 3rd behind Cro and Wilson. But at the same time I would also like to trade T'eo as well.
 
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squicken

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Wes said:
From what I've followed most of the year there are about 10 top talents in this draft before the quality takes a bit of a drop. 8 of those are on defence. Good year to be looking for a pass rusher. I think the CB Milliner will go top 10.

His latest mock is here by the way.
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Good OL draft too. Thanks for posting this

Lots of Rams fans don't like the idea of drafting two offensive linemen, but I am all for it. It's not even a quality issue at this point as much as getting some youth and durability. I won't make everyone mad again and post the numbers, but they need continuity. Every week it's a new group. Let the young guys grow up in front of the pinata and then get his replacement in 2014
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
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There's a lot on the line when the Lions face the Falcons Saturday night at Ford Field.

No, Detroit's not trying to clinch a playoff berth in its next-to-last home game, as it did a season ago. No, the Lions are not going to salvage their abysmal season with a win on a Saturday night version of ESPN's Monday Night Football broadcast. But Detroit's players have a lot to prove before a national audience.

They're playing for pride, and to prove that Sunday's 38-10 loss to the Cardinals wasn't an accurate representation of their talent. DT Ndamukong Suh said the team will also try and ruin Atlanta's attempt to clinch home-field advantage throughout the postseason.

“You just always want to have something positive going into next season,” he said. “We're going to see Atlanta maybe next year in the playoffs. This is not the first time we've played Atlanta. We [lost to them] last year so I hope to, in essence, I guess spoil their season a little bit even though they're going to the playoffs.”

Suh isn't alone in that hope. Rather than focusing directly on the Falcons, however, quarterback Matthew Stafford said the team wants to end its six-game losing streak on national television to reward faithful fans who have stuck by the team despite numerous unfulfilled expectations.

“We're not going to have a chance to go to the playoffs, But it's still football on [Saturday],” Stafford said. "We're still professional football players. We go out there and try and win every game that we're in. Guys are going to be giving a great effort and… give our fans something to cheer about.”

Stafford's mention of professionalism brings the other, and perhaps more important battle that will take place Saturday into focus: The battle several Lions' players will face to keep their jobs this offseason.

There's a certain security that comes with a 10-6 season and a playoff berth, and that's why Lions' GM Martin Mayhew felt confident during the 2012 offseason that simply retaining 21 of 22 2011 starters would get his team back to the promised land of the postseason this year.

At 4-10, however, no such security exists, and the Lions' players who are free agents this season have 120 minutes of football left to prove they deserve a big payday in Detroit -- or anywhere else -- next season. Stafford said players' behavior and performance when a postseason berth isn't on the line can be a measuring stick for a player's true character.

“You can learn a lot [in the final two games],” he said. “You can just watch people. Actions are louder than words right now. That's part of being a professional, seeing how people prepare this week. Honestly I have no qualms about it. I know our guys are going to be preparing as hard as they can be.”

The Detroit Free Press reported that the Lions have almost $7 million in projected cap space next year -- a small figure in overall salary cap terms. The team will also eventually have to pay the piper for restructuring several players' contracts in previous seasons to comply with the cap.

The Lions have eight defensive starters poised to enter the free agent market -- including LBs DeAndre Levy and Justin Durant, CB Chris Houston, S Louis Delmas and current franchise tag recipient, DE Cliff Avril. It's unlikely that Detroit's available money for next season will allow it to negotiate deals with all those players. Add in T Gosder Cherilus and restricted free agents T Jason Fox, DE Willie Young and Amari Spievey and you quickly begin to understand how a player's effort over the final two weeks could help sort out a very crowded free agent class.

Players like Suh and Stafford, however, both said that the cure for what currently ails the Lions is simply to win Saturday and in Detroit's final home game next week. Suh said the current Lions' squad is more than capable of doing just that.

“I think we have a great team,” he said. “I've said it continuously before that we're a team that hurts ourselves. When we don't hurt ourselves, we're very unstoppable.”
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/n...atchup-with-falcons-about-pride-and-paychecks

Love the leadership Suh and Stafford are showing. They'll be on the roster next year of course, but lets see who wants to be playing in the NFL next year. We've got about 20-30 guys who will be playing for a contract next year either for us or someone else.

We're at home on national TV and we better come out swinging. Bounce back game after our worst game since the 0-16 season.
 
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FrenchMovieTheme

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Kastrioti said:
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/n...atchup-with-falcons-about-pride-and-paychecks

Love the leadership Suh and Stafford are showing. They'll be on the roster next year of course, but lets see who wants to be playing in the NFL next year. We've got about 20-30 guys who will be playing for a contract next year either for us or someone else.

We're at home on national TV and we better come out swinging. Bounce back game after our worst game since the 0-16 season.
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i have no doubt the lions will "come out swining" and jump out to a 10-0 or 14-0 lead. then, like the lions have done all season, they will suck dick the rest of the way and lose 31-10 or 31-14. the team overachieved at 10-6. they have a shitty offensive line, an overrated defensive line, awful secondary and a crappy coaching staff. those are just facts
 
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squicken

Member
Sherman wasn't at practice today for the Chickens. Hearing tomorrow. Maybe he's getting ready to admit his guilt and start suspension?
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
FrenchMovieTheme said:
i have no doubt the lions will "come out swining" and jump out to a 10-0 or 14-0 lead. then, like the lions have done all season, they will suck dick the rest of the way and lose 31-10 or 31-14. the team overachieved at 10-6. they have a shitty offensive line, an overrated defensive line, awful secondary and a crappy coaching staff. those are just facts
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Our offensive line is actually pretty solid, and while the secondary and coaching do suck but our defensive line ain't overrated. Anytime you have Nick Fairley and Suh at the DT positions no way can you call the defensive line overrated. They make old man Kyle Vanden Bosh and overrated Cliff Avril look good.

This season has been the definition of a young team having bad luck all around. Enjoy the shit talking for now, the future is bright in Detroit!
 
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B For Bendetta

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squicken said:
Good OL draft too. Thanks for posting this

Lots of Rams fans don't like the idea of drafting two offensive linemen, but I am all for it. It's not even a quality issue at this point as much as getting some youth and durability. I won't make everyone mad again and post the numbers, but they need continuity. Every week it's a new group. Let the young guys grow up in front of the pinata and then get his replacement in 2014
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I don't see it happening with Fisher's drafting history. I wouldn't do it either. Don't get me wrong, I'd take one, but there are still a lot of holes on defense. You see the thing from STLToday that you could compare Bradford to other QBs?
 
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Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
squicken said:
Sherman wasn't at practice today for the Chickens. Hearing tomorrow. Maybe he's getting ready to admit his guilt and start suspension?
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Sherman is such a cheating piece of shit and I hope he gets suspended just for talking shit on Megatron week 8, yet couldn't even handle our former #3 receiver Titus Young.
 
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squicken

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I never knew this, but way back in the 60s, as part of Congress allowing the NFL to collectively bargain its TV rights (individual teams used to sell their own TV rights), the league agreed to not compete against college and high school football. So the NFL can't air a nationally televised Saturday games until the 3rd Saturday in December. Any Friday or Saturday game before that can only be a regional broadcast
 
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verbum

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Kastrioti said:
Our offensive line is actually pretty solid, and while the secondary and coaching do suck but our defensive line ain't overrated. Anytime you have Nick Fairley and Suh at the DT positions no way can you call the defensive line overrated. They make old man Kyle Vanden Bosh and overrated Cliff Avril look good.

This season has been the definition of a young team having bad luck all around. Enjoy the shit talking for now, the future is bright in Detroit!
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Losing Fairly was a big blow, Suh would tie two people up and Fairly would swoop in. I'm looking forward to the game. It'll be interesting to see Stafford and Ryan against each other.
I'm hoping our OL will give Ryan time to throw.
 
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LJ11

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Wes said:
From what I've followed most of the year there are about 10 top talents in this draft before the quality takes a bit of a drop. 8 of those are on defence. Good year to be looking for a pass rusher. I think the CB Milliner will go top 10.

His latest mock is here by the way.
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I don't agree with this, if anything the talent is much more even than years past.

I've seen pretty much every Manti Teo game, he is not a top ten talent and there's isn't much separating him from a guy like Brown or Minter, in fact Minter has flashed way more, but Im not sure if I should trust LSU linebackers. Teo doesn't run with TEs they leave that to Danny Spond, you can't take a guy like that top ten. Great leader, but as far as football talent, plenty of equals in this draft.
 
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jakncoke

Banned
squicken said:
I never knew this, but way back in the 60s, as part of Congress allowing the NFL to collectively bargain its TV rights (individual teams used to sell their own TV rights), the league agreed to not compete against college and high school football. So the NFL can't air a nationally televised Saturday games until the 3rd Saturday in December. Any Friday or Saturday game before that can only be a regional broadcast
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Thought that was common knowledge
 
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squicken

Member
B For Bendetta said:
I don't see it happening with Fisher's drafting history. I wouldn't do it either. Don't get me wrong, I'd take one, but there are still a lot of holes on defense. You see the thing from STLToday that you could compare Bradford to other QBs?
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The one with Eli or the one with some not so good QBs? Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally giving up, but that's mostly b/c they have to keep him next year anyway.

As far as draft history, at some point you just have to fix a problem. Devaney didn't believe in drafting WRs high and he never found a good one. They need a plug in starter on the OL. The defense really just needs depth and a good free safety. Hopefully Jenkins gets better and Johnson can slide in to full time slot duty
 
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MechDX

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Just spent 6 hours Christmas shopping by myself after my new job orientation......fuck people/crowds/traffic!!

Got some good deals though!
 
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AngmarsKing701

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So which coaches are done for?

NFC

Andy Reid - time is done in Philly
Ron Rivera - I think Jerry Richardson want to win now. I suspect he wants a coach who can make that happen.
Jim Schwartz - dude is a major douchebag but last year's 10-6 might have won him another season
Lovie Smith - if the Bears miss the playoffs, I think he's done
Ken Whisenhunt - maybe he's a probable at this point. He's got to be coming to the end of the line.

AFC
Rex Ryan - maybe he holds on for one more year, but his schtick isn't working in the Big Apple any more
Chan Gailey - a decent enough OC but he's not a HC
Norv Turner - a great OC who has been a horrible HC. Can't see him ever getting another HC job.
Romeo Crennel - lol
Pat Shurmur - he may have done enough over the past couple of weeks to hold onto that job, but with a regime change normally comes a HC change
Mike Munchak - like Richardson, Bud Adams doesn't like losing. Munchak might keep his job for another season but I suspect a quick trigger finger
Mike Mularkey - it's only his first season, but the Jags are horrible (so bad that Gata insists he's squickened to the Pats)
 
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